Wheeler Dealers - Expedition Discovery

Chris · Sep 17, 2014

Did anyone have the misfortune to catch Wheeler Dealers (Quest) tonight where they bought a M plate Disco for £1500 and for a total spend of £2731 turned it not only into an expedition spec Disco, oh no, but an off road expedition Discovery.

All this by bolting a few bits on. Ladder, roof rack, spotlights. Clearly we've been going about this the wrong way.

It was pitiful. Expedition means being able to go off road anywhere - apparently.

Dave Docwra · Sep 17, 2014

I once had a misfortune of selling them a car for their programme, the show is very misleading.

Thomas A. Swift · Sep 17, 2014

Dave Docwra said:
I once had a misfortune of selling them a car for their programme, the show is very misleading.

Tell us more!

stumog · Sep 17, 2014

I think the show is crap. The money they make is not enough to cover the cost of labour that you have to think about when doing that kind of thing.

Chris · Sep 17, 2014

I certainly wasn't having a go at the Disco that's for sure, everyone has their cross to bear. But it's an interesting point Dave. When you see something that you have more than a passing understanding of you realise what a load of b*****s it is So..... when I see other programmes about things that I DON'T really understand, just how much of that is also b*****s? I am guessing all of it.

Incredibly for a 95 vehicle there didn't seem to be a single spec of rust anywhere. Sills, boot, arches all perfect. Must be a one off. Everything worked. And of course the suspension from the factory was 'expedition' spec too ......

I love the way Ed splits ball joints. Two hammers, WHACK. One hit every time.

joinerman · Sep 17, 2014

Never a mention of labour costs coming into it, Ed's workshop is just down the road from me at Marlow in Bucks

Chris · Sep 17, 2014

Yes, they sold it for £200 profit. I wish I lived closer. At those rates (£0.00 per hour) I've plenty of jobs he could do for me. and in Marlow too, eh? Has he got a place on Bourne End too? That'd be handy.

Dave Docwra · Sep 17, 2014

Thomas A. Swift said:
Tell us more!

I sold them a 944 Turbo Porsche, which they stated in the show that they had stolen it at the price they had paid, firstly the price they stated on the show is not what they paid for it, they also had a section on the show with me apparently talking to Mike Brewer on the phone, this never happened, then followed by him putting the phone down & stating the geezer has not got a clue, it was sold on Ebay & to the highest bidder who won it, which was obviously their production company who turned up with a film crew & Brewer to collect it.

They then spent a fortune on the car to ruin it & turn it into a track car, they had all these unrealistic priced parts purchased and fitted, without labour this would have put the car up to about £12,000 including the car purchase, they then sold it for about £7k claiming they had made a profit.

Best bit was the end scene with the car going round the track with oil vapour smoke coming from the exhaust, I was really lucky to have let it go when I had.

Dave Docwra · Sep 17, 2014

I am with you Chris, Since this happened to me I struggle to watch any of these type of shows as I think they are all total b******s.

Another great dissapointment is the Pawn Stars shop, it is really small & emptied for filming also very rarely do the people in the programme actually stand behind the display counters.

Chris · Sep 17, 2014

I watched the film 'Sniper - legacy' the other day. It begins with shots of some super shooter making their own ammunition. Well if there were any other ways to make more inaccurate ammunition, they missed a trick I can tell you. I was howling at the screen. But people think that this stuff is real and that things like Dum Dums actually exist.

Just what CAN you believe nowadays

Paulpen · Sep 17, 2014

Dave Docwra said:
I sold them a 944 Turbo Porsche, which they stated in the show that they had stolen it at the price they had paid, firstly the price they stated on the show is not what they paid for it, they also had a section on the show with me apparently talking to Mike Brewer on the phone, this never happened, then followed by him putting the phone down & stating the geezer has not got a clue, it was sold on Ebay & to the highest bidder who won it, which was obviously their production company who turned up with a film crew & Brewer to collect it.

They then spent a fortune on the car to ruin it & turn it into a track car, they had all these unrealistic priced parts purchased and fitted, without labour this would have put the car up to about £12,000 including the car purchase, they then sold it for about £7k claiming they had made a profit.

Best bit was the end scene with the car going round the track with oil vapour smoke coming from the exhaust, I was really lucky to have let it go when I had.

I had my suspicions but never though it was that bad !

Do love the way nothing snaps, they have every tool in the world at their disposal for free its all so easy !

The one where they buy a Fiat in Italy was the best. Breaks down before it gets out the country and then Edd rocks up from the UK with a trailer and takes it home. Of course all the fuel, accomodation, ferry tickets must have been free as they werent in the final costings !

MarkW · Sep 17, 2014

Did they fit a Dakar sticker? any true expedition preparation is just adding one of these to whatever you have, makes it capable of climbing Everest everything else is just bling

Towpack · Sep 17, 2014

I think you blokes are taking these shows too seriously! After all, they're made for their entertainment value to the general populous rather than their appeal to the die hard subject specialists you will get in any hobby/pastime/activity etc. JMO

Shayne · Sep 17, 2014

I bet they all drive Bentley's on the wages they get from the TV channel the profit loss ratio is no doubt a good one . What really made me sick is when Clarkeson announced on Top Gear without a hint of embarrassment that they are not allowed by BBC rules to sell the Arctic trucks Hilux's they had built to drive to the South Pole "for entertainment purposes" and so the trucks will likely get scrapped or gifted to someone on the production team . Yet even blind people have to pay for a tv licence or face prison !

Chris · Sep 17, 2014

Nooo, noo, not taking it seriously at all. I was commenting. Not saying it was technically inaccurate. Just shit. But people like it. And that if we know it's BS just how much of the rest of the stuff is BS.

I recently heard a witness speaking on the news. I heard exactly what she said. Later they didn't have the lady in the story, just what she'd said. Other than is just was not what she'd said at all and it was totally sensationalised.

Trust no one.

frank rabbets · Sep 18, 2014

You've made a big mistake Chris. You should have dodged that metal bar that gave you a bump on the head. Remember HA Ha HA. Watching telly I mean. Change of personality? No, I'm guilty of watching more telly than average and I agree with Chris about that show but I watch it because it brings back memories of working on cars. Ed seams to be buying more and more expensive stuff so this car repair business pays big money

.

Since the dishonesty phone line scandal I think the BEEB is more transparent than it used to be. EG Flog it now mentions that you have to pay up to 20% commission on hammer price. The other day they also mentioned buyers premium. In antique auctions by the time you have paid your commission and in effect the "buyers premium" you receive about 2/3 rds the value of the item and that's a trade value as well.

Rant on the way so I going up the garage.
Frank

frank rabbets · Sep 18, 2014

..............and another thing. Those races on top gear. They are so close. WOW.

Chris · Sep 18, 2014

I understand that they are making an entertainment programme but if they said they'd bought it for £5K and they actually paid, say, £7K then that is not only misrepresentation but it's a lie! That surely isn't allowed under even artistic licence.

Ed has some nifty gear. I liked that body repair kit he used on the Ferarri

Knucklehead · Sep 18, 2014

can understand these shows being seen as 'entertainment' but the couple I have seen could get some folk into a world of pain.
Ed removing a fuel tank without any mention of isolating battery or many sources of ignition found around a typical garage that will happily set your ass on fire.

Also want to know where they buy these magical 20 year old vehicles where the nuts/bolts come undone with use of simple spanners. Real tricky ones get squirt of WD40, the most useless penetrating fluid known to man

Wish my cruiser had those magic fixings.
TV wouldn't transmit what comes out of my mouth working on solid rusted bolts. :angry-screaming:

Chris · Sep 18, 2014

Whilst we're on the subject, have you seen 'The Garage'. My God. It's an English garage in Spain. I wouldn't let them pump up the tyres on my push bike.

They had a Jeep in the air, in gear and running. Their 4x4 expert couldn't understand why all the wheels weren't going round! It's just disaster after disaster. I can't understand why they haven't been sued out of existence. Unless of course it's not all real .........

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