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Anyone running Jet Fuel in their diesel?

Now theres an interesting thing....so adding veggie oil to diesel before the mot reduces the emissions?

As regards recycling, ive often wondered what the companies like Fuel Doctor do with all the diesel they suck out of petrol cars?

Pete
 
Hey Shayne, are you sure the airport guy didn't give you 100LL? Otherwise known as 100 octane gasoline? Piston airplanes use this and yes it's HIGHLY flammable. Normally it has a colour to it - Over here it's Blue. Where as jet fuel is clear.

Mark, I've actually sourced a FREE supply! When the big jet aircraft come in to get their fuel systems worked on the mechanics have to drain the fuel tanks. The fuel can't be out back in the airplane as its a liability issue. Normally it would be sent to a recycling facility, but he just keeps it and uses it in his vehicles. They even run the diesel airport trucks off it when they are short on diesel fuel

Use it for sure if its free...rather than the hassle of adding oil then just run it 50:50 and occasionally run a full tank of diesel through.

We got ours the same way - we have a local operator that uses our hangar our occasionally and when they do tank work they can't be bothered to pump it back in. When we drain ours we catch it in clean barrels and filter it back in. That's the difference between a commercial company with oil company contracts and a registered charity operating aircraft!!!

Shayne - it could still have been jeta1. Any flammable liquid in a closed container subjected to heat will flash off and explode a plastic bottle :?. If you poured JetA1 in a puddle on the floor and dropped a match on it it wouldn't ignite.

Regards
Mark
 
But back to the topic, Uncle Sam really doesnt give a crap what I burn. They may say they do, but my "MOT" consists of a yearly emissions test, where all they do is put a probe in the exhaust to see what level of gases are coming out. So once a year I head down to the testing station with a tank of bio, or mixed diesel with veg oil and it passes with flying colours every time!!
In some counties around here all they do is an opacity reading - aka they shine a light through the exhaust smoke to see how dark it is!! Its a joke.
Hell I dont even run a cat, just a 3" straight through exhaust!

So when they tell us the reason you cant import anything that is newer than 25 years old is because of emissions, I just roll my eyes, and throw up in my mouth a little.

I've run B100 for four years in my 100 and MOT testers can't belief how low the emission are. On most of the measurable things well made bio is typically 50% of derv emissions.
 
Looked what arrived today :icon-biggrin:

jeta.JPG

Mixed with 1/2 gallon of 30w oil
 
Please be careful with jet fuel the stuff is nothing short of explosive . We've all used a little diesel to get a fire going and even petrol with a little more caution but DON'T even think of doing it with jet fuel !

Are you thinking of high octane aviation fuel for piston engined aircraft? Jet fuel is basically kerosene.
There seems to be some doubt in this thread as to wether or not it'll damage the pump. Given that doubt and the price of a new pump, personally, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. JMO
 
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Kero isn't kind to moving parts ie your injectors and pump i play with big industrial burners which consume gallons of it daily and its amazing the damage it does in comparison to gas oil. I'm sure with a little lube it will be be fine.
My brother used to fill his RAF landy with kerosene rather then diesel as it was usually less hassle than driving to the fuel depot.... Don't think it ever broke :?
 
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The only other advantage of running on a mixture of Diesel / Kero is it's less likely to gel in super cold weather conditions, but we're talking below -25C so not usually a problem in the UK.
 
You guys are a hoot! I actually laughed out loud!!

Im actually a home grown Brit, born in London raised in Norfolk! Living and working in the US for the last 10 years as a charter pilot for a company in Tennessee.

Didnt want to put "USA" under my location as we all (inc myself), have our opinions of the Yanks! :teasing-nutkick:

Dont want to offend anyone on here that might be from the US, just saying Im a proud Brit is all

After realising the sad fact that the Landcruiser's were never offered over here in a diesel, I set out on a mission (well obsession really!), to build what you guys have readily available for peanuts in comparison to what I have invested!!! Im so jealous!
I cant bring myself to own an American car - I get American made rental cars all the time for work, and havent driven one yet I actually liked enough to buy.

Graeme (iH8mud member gbentink) in Aus does some great work modifying the Toyota CT26 turbo to give much more grunt over a larger rev range. Best mod yet, highly recommend it. Pulls light a freight train!!

But back to the topic, Uncle Sam really doesnt give a crap what I burn. They may say they do, but my "MOT" consists of a yearly emissions test, where all they do is put a probe in the exhaust to see what level of gases are coming out. So once a year I head down to the testing station with a tank of bio, or mixed diesel with veg oil and it passes with flying colours every time!!
In some counties around here all they do is an opacity reading - aka they shine a light through the exhaust smoke to see how dark it is!! Its a joke.
Hell I dont even run a cat, just a 3" straight through exhaust!

So when they tell us the reason you cant import anything that is newer than 25 years old is because of emissions, I just roll my eyes, and throw up in my mouth a little.

I tell you, I hear you about the EPA and DOT's war against diesel. If you ask me, they hammer against diesel to keep foreign competition out of the US on behalf of the Big Three automakers.

And don't start with me on the price of diesel here. Believe it or not, diesel is 50% higher in the US, despite being cheaper to produce and theoretically more plentiful than gasoline.

As far as "inspection" is concerned, you think you have it good? Try living in Iowa or any of the "flyover" states. No inspection needed; as in none. The only question the woman at the DOT asked when I paid my $25 truck license for my new 80 series was its color. And she didn't even look to verify that.

As for your opinion about Yanks, I would love to talk that out over a beer of your choice. I AM one and I think we'd be eye to eye on most issues about that. Living internationally gives a perspective.

On to using Jet A in a diesel engine. I'm a certified A&P mechanic, and as long as you address the lubricity issues (which you evidently have, by mixing in the oil) it should burn fine. NATO burns something similar called JP8. Though it has higher potential sulfur content, it is extremely low ash, which will really clean out your engine. Free fuel is always a good thing.

BTW, I recently rented a Ford Kuga in diesel and drove on the autobahn at or near it's 240 kmh redline and then around the countryside in the mountains both on and off road, while getting upwards of 40 mpg. Someone tell me why again that the US agencies have effectively killed the diesel automobile?
 
Please be careful with jet fuel the stuff is nothing short of explosive . We've all used a little diesel to get a fire going and even petrol with a little more caution but DON'T even think of doing it with jet fuel !
Jet Fuel (JetA1) is basically Kerosine. It is used in jets and turboprop aircraft.
AVGAS is basically highly octane (100) grade Petrol and used in Piston engines aircraft. Less common these days. You can easily run Avgas in a (not Diesel). It will run well. Not sure about JetA1 (kero) in a Diesel engine. engine
 
Back in the mid 70's I worked for an Aerial Spraying contractor and ran my Escort mk1 van on aviation petrol as it was free. It burned the valves out in the engine within 2 months, I believe it was lead free
 
Can't say for sure what it was , my mate was chief fireman there and i was a bike nutter so i guess he thought i'd like some high octane stuff . I can't realy recall the colour but i'm thinking either clear or maybe a slight pink tint ? To long ago to remember .
maybe what you had Shayne was Avgas ? also known as bluegas , had a blueish tint , it's pretty toxic .as said before aviation fuel for piston engined aircraft but also used in race cars & bikes until . i think the late 80s ? David IIRC avgas was leaded , the burnt valves might have been caused by running 100 octane fuel in a MK 1 Escort engine ?
 
I have no idea what it was i never asked for it and it wasn't discussed when i was given it with an offhand comment such as here you will find a use for this , it would have been late 1980's i guess though .
 
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