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Diesel quality when over landing

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What variations in diesel quality are common in other countries? I'm
mostly interested in variations in viscosity and if it's ever thicker
than we're used to in this country now?
Best regards,
Jon.
 
Hi Jon,
Your not thinking of taking your beast out to Africa to frighten the
camels are you?
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
Hi Jon,
Your not thinking of taking your beast out to Africa to frighten the
camels are you?
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
I can only comment on Russia and Iceland, if you discount Europe. Both of
those countries have diesel that is a similar viscosity to ours, in Russia
it does smell like diesel used to before it became 'Green'.
Why do you ask? There are folks running on veggie oil in this country and
that is thicker than diesel, even thinned down 50%.
Aturbo diesel will almost run on a mixture of piss and oil anyway, if you
add an intercooler then it is more certain.
 
Hi,
Julian said:
Not just yet!
Clive said:
Actually that's why I'm interested. For a long time I've been running
both our 80's on veg oil without problems. Customs & Excise have
recently decided that straight veg oil no longer qualifies for tax
breaks on the grounds that it is not 'diesel quality' (too thick) unlike
transesterified veg oil which is much thinner. I was simply curious if
our vehicles are designed and more importantly actually do cope with
thick diesel in other countries.
Does anyone know of countries where 80's are supplied with heated
filters or anything else designed to cope better with thick diesel and
low temperatures?
Just a bit of curiosity, that's all. HODA 79 which is the legislation
involved actually says diesel quality is 'heavy oil' which I think can
be anything from thick gloopy stuff to the thin stuff we're used to.
Best regards,
Jon.
 
Jon,
The UK spec cruisers (diesel) all had a fuel heater attatched to the filter
for cold weather. This is a vacuum operated element that comes on if the
fuel is too thick due to cold. The heater is not going to know why the fuel
is thick. I added this to my import before I went to Russia. I dont know if
this will work with veggie oil but I dont see why not.
Regards, Clive.
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Clive Marks
Sent: 15 September 2005 18:46
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Diesel quality when over landing
I don't remember seeing that last time I changed the filter but I'll
have another look in the morning. Even if mine doesn't have one fitted
(it is a UK model) knowing I can get one meant for my vehicle will be a
big help. Maybe it was some sort of cold weather option?
Best regards,
Jon.
 
1. diesel quality comes down to dirt/water in fuel, especially when taken
from drums in the bush.
2. sulphur content - many contries still use diesel with a high sulphur
content. even if you can get low-sulphur diesel then it's still a good idea
to change oil and filter every 5,000km.
3. i tried veggie oil as an emergency fuel source once and my truck was ok
although it smelt like a moble chip shop. problem is, in the short term, it
is much more expensive than diesel!
jeremy --
www.bundubasher.com
s1 16.362 e36 45.684
nairobi: 0723 152 787
 
no worries! it's usually the lorry driver your buying from!
jeremy --
www.bundubasher.com
s1 16.362 e36 45.684
nairobi: 0723 152 787
________________________________________
from: [email address removed] [mailto:[email address removed]] on
behalf of jeff watts
sent: 16 september 2005 10:02
to: [email address removed]
subject: re: [elco] diesel quality when over landing
hi
i agree with (1) and (2) dont know about (3).the problem with buyinh it
inthe bush is avoiding the lorry driver from whom it has just been stolen!!!
safe travels --!!!!
give my regards to africa!
 
the quality of diesel is excellent from kenya down to ct - never had any
fuel related problems. north, ie: ethiopia, somalia, sudan etc i have no
idea. lots of trouble in those places and so i'd expect to have to visually
& nasally check the quality of the diesel before i transferred it to the
tank. what say you jeff?
jeremy --
www.bundubasher.com
s1 16.362 e36 45.684
nairobi: 0723 152 787
________________________________________
lol so true so true!!!!
________________________________________
 
i have no experience of 1 & 2 but for 3 i'm paying over =a31 a gallon less
for veg oil than i would for diesel even with the duty paid.
jon.
93 & 94 hdj80's running on veg oil.
-----original message-----
from: [email address removed] [mailto:[email address removed]]
on behalf of --
sent: 16 september 2005 07:59
to: [email address removed]
subject: re: [elco] diesel quality when over landing
1. diesel quality comes down to dirt/water in fuel, especially when
taken
from drums in the bush.
2. sulphur content - many contries still use diesel with a high sulphur
content. even if you can get low-sulphur diesel then it's still a good
idea
to change oil and filter every 5,000km.
3. i tried veggie oil as an emergency fuel source once and my truck was
ok
although it smelt like a moble chip shop. problem is, in the short term,
it
is much more expensive than diesel!
jeremy --
www.bundubasher.com
s1 16.362 e36 45.684
nairobi: 0723 152 787
 
over here diesel is 68 ksh per litre (135ksh:1gbp) and that's expensive for
africa. zim used to be half that price until recently but veggie oil has
always been expensive here.
jeremy --
www.bundubasher.com
s1 16.362 e36 45.684
nairobi: 0723 152 787
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Clive Marks
Sent: 15 September 2005 18:46
I just had a look in the EPC and then on the car and sure enough it's
just as you say Clive it already has a heating element. That's good news
for me because even if I have to change how and when it comes on it
saves me switching to another manufacturers heated filter assembly.
What makes you think it's driven by viscosity rather than ambient
temperature? I'm only asking because if as you say it's viscosity then I
don't need to rewire it.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
Hello all,
Can't comment on diesel variation in other countries but in Belgium,
where I was only yesterday, a litre of diesel costs EUR1.11 (=A30.74).
In Poland it was even cheaper (=A30.67).
Rather than running on frying oil, I think it makes sense to invest in
a long range tank. Buying diesel at =A30.74/L has saved me =A370 on one
fill-up. If you add up all things from the usual continental shopping
list, a quick dash to Ostend makes even more sense.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On 9/15/05, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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