Electric window motors

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Appologies if this question has been asked and answered before.This is on a
1991 80 import.The electric window motors on all doors have now become so
lazy that they refuse to work in the cold weather. In the past I have
removed the glass and cleaned the track and sprayed with a special
lubricant. Things improve for a while but soon revert to very slow and then
useless. What is the answer? I have taken the motor out and cleaned it.Is
this problem inherent in the 80 and should I therefore replace the motors or
is there another fix? I imagine the spares from Toyota would be expensive so
any other suggestions..Regards Kirk
 
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Kirk,
There are one or two answers, the first is what you have already done,
next time I do mine I am going to try a dry lubricant. The second is to
clean all of the electrical connections as they tarnish and reduce the
voltage getting to the motor. The third is to re-wire it all with a larger
size of wire so that the volts loss is minimised. Most of the problem is the
electrical loss, not the dirty runners.
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Hi Kirk,
I had the motors replaced (expensive!), the connectors cleaned, and
new rubbers in the door frame, and....
...... the windows still crawl up and down......
If you find a solution please let me know!
Cheers,
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Andy Haxby
UK & NL
HDJ80
 
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Sometimes it's just the friction in the runners on the side of the window
and you can't really grease them.
I wonder if a dry lubricant like graphite might work, it's the right thing
for locks because it doesn't attract dirt, perhaps it might work on windows.
Ebay Item number: 150272132442
Never used the proper stuff, I just rub the key with a carpenters pencil a
few times and work it in the lock ;)
Malcolm
Stafford (UK)
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76
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Hi Kirk,
I had the motors replaced (expensive!), the connectors cleaned, and
new rubbers in the door frame, and....
...... the windows still crawl up and down......
If you find a solution please let me know!
 
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Andy, Kirk,
You probably need to take your window switches apart and clean the contacts
inside. There's a good write up on this somewhere on IH8MUD or LCOOL.
All the best,
Toby
1990 HDJ80 UK
 
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Hi all,
I, like everybody else, have sufferd in silence from this problem and
also tried unsuccessfully a variety of possible cures - cleaning
switch contacts, cleaning motor gears and brush contacts, greasing
rubber runners, greasing the lifting arm etc., either one at a time or
all in once.
It's a fact that the windows move slowly or get stuck only when wet.
Also, up to the middle of the glass pane the window moves at an angle,
then it straightnes up before becoming completely shut.
I suspect the problem is caused by a combination of factors, rather
than one elecrtrical or mechanical fault. I havent checked this, but
it's possible that not only the rubber runners become stiff and cause
friction, but also the metal runners (in which the rubber ones sit)
become warped or oblique
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80 (auto)
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Malcolm Bagley <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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I've annually cleaned the rubbers and lubricated with a dry silicone based lubricant that will work for a while, but I did notice that the bottom part of the rubbers were moving in their holders which wasn't helping much.
I have recently replaced the rubbers on the driver's door as well cleaned the contacts in the switches and this seems to have done a reasonable job, although they are still slow.
If I had had more time I would have degreased the mechanisms and then used a dry silicone or graphite based lubricant - one of the big problems is that the grease used on the mechanism thickens up when cold which doesn't help.
Regards
Julian
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Hi Guys
I would just put it down to a landcruiser quirk or fault.
I have replaced the motor and somthing else (can't remember the name)
greased the bars and runners and siliconed the rubbers.
Ok for a while but then back to slow and then not moving sometimes.
I think the cruisers just dont like the cold and damp and we just need to
live somewhere nice and dry and warm, just for the cruisers health of
course.
I love when its raining and im on a toll motorway just after paying the toll
and the window wont go back up and its still raining only this time inside
the cruiser.
Like others I have found the window does not sit properly in the mechanism
and struggles to stay centred.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
cheers
john
 
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Maybe it's just the 80's way of telling us that it's not really a 4x4
gin palace after all, and it would have been happier with old-fashioned
manual wind-up windows in the first place.
Looking at the parts catalogue on Toyodiy, all you'd need are new door
cards, armrests and handles - the regulators are the same.
Not ideal for a solo trip on the French autoroutes, granted, but if the
electric ones don't work anyway you're no worse off...
Cheers
Paul
1996 FZJ80 Luddite Edition
john byrne wrote:
 
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On 30/10/08 11:20, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I had to replace the drivers side window a while back and the new one kept
rising at odd angles and I couldn't seem to stop it. So I stuck it in with a
little glue and it rises fine, but slowly. I think we just have to accept
that they are never going to be great - the rear ones have always been much
better.
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
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hi everyone

been following this thread with great interest i though it was just mine!!!!

im off tomorrow round south america for a few months so have a great winter whilst i wander round Patagononia=2C Andes Chile Peru and hopefully Amazonia!!!. Ive done minimal work on the cruiser !!(well ive done no work on it julian did some work on it!!) its got 159=2C000 mile son it and seems to be working well.

As we speak its on a Ro Ro ferry between Tilbury and Buenos Aries and if theres anything left on it after the crew have helped themselves ill be picking it up and driving off

ill be updating the website so if anyone is interested in the banal and peurile ramblimgs of a mind ravaged by old age and alcohol feel free


regards to all

jeff watts

www.gonewandering.co.uk

www.gonewandering.co.uk> Date: Fri=2C 31 Oct 2008 09:17:16 +0000> Subject: [ELCO] Electric window motors> From: [Email address removed]> To: [Email address removed]> > > > > On 30/10/08 11:20=2C "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:> > > I suspect the problem is caused by a combination of factors=2C rather> > than one elecrtrical or mechanical fault. I havent checked this=2C but> > it's possible that not only the rubber runners become stiff and cause> > friction=2C but also the metal runners (in which the rubber ones sit)> > become warped or oblique> > > > > > Rgds=2C> > Roman (London=2C UK)> > '92 HDJ80 (auto)> > I had to replace the drivers side window a while back and the new one kept> rising at odd angles and I couldn't seem to stop it. So I stuck it in with a> little glue and it rises fine=2C but slowly. I think we just have to accept> that they are never going to be great - the rear ones have always been much> better.> > Jeremy> > Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones> > Mob: +44 7831 458 793> > > http://www.jljphotography.co.uk> -- > > > > --> European Land Cruiser Owners Mailing List> Further Info: http://www.landcruisers.info/lists/
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Sounds like it's time for someone to try to replace the motor with
something better. Should be possible to find e.g. a model-car /-boat
motor with a bit more ompf, that would still fit somehow
physically/mechanically.
Those who have opened the thing up could probably tell us more about the
idea.
I had cranks on my 80. Worked flawlessly ;-)
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Ugo Hu, Oslo, Norway
HDJ100, Auto, AHC, 2001; ex HZJ80
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Chris

"Goodwood green" - or at least that's what mine is called

CB


Does any one know the official Toyota name for the Dark Metallic Green
that alot of Cruisers come in.

Chris
96 TLC 80 1HD-FT Manual - Dark Green!?!
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Chris,
The paint will have a number or alpha-numeric code, if you have
problems finding it my brother has a Colorado in that colour and I will find
out.
Regards,
Clive Marks
Home: +44 1293 514600
Mobile: +44 7821 491897
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