Not being a scaremonger but...............

[Towpack]

Testing any permanent 4x4 on rollers shouldn't be a problem as they all have a center diff of some sort. So long as the diff remains open it will behave just as though the front or back wheels have lost traction. That's the whole point of having a diff lock. The only 'complication' would be a VC in the CD as fitted to later 80's which means the diff is never fully open but acts in effect like a LSD but, personally, I can't see it being an issue for the short duration of the brake test and hasn't been for the last 10 years I've had mine tested. JMO

 

[Dave2000]

You are right Towpack, the VC will simply slip for the short duration the vehicle is on the rollers, the same for a LSD. The Model T Ford would be exempt if the equipment is not fitted then fine, if the tester knows your vehicle was fitted with ABS for example then it is possible it will fail. In the UK there are MOT stations every couple of miles different testers will have different levels of knowledge/experience, here in Murcia Spain there is perhaps one station every 75 km's? and 'mega' stations testing motor bikes thru to HGV's, so the standards/knowledge/experience is more uniform. I arrived in Spain nine year ago, if I turned up with a 'heap' as long as it had a steering wheel it would pass, now the depth of the orange on the indicator bulbs is under scrutiny and yes, I did get a warning about this very item.

Frank Rabbets once said "come back to the UK Dave" he may be right!

Regards

Dave

 

[chapel gate]

Germany has very strict mots. Thats why you dont see all that many older cars on the road. When i lived there you also had to pay to scrap the motor. On seeing my very sad looking cav 130 my boss at the time gave me a rust free diesel escort, lowish miles and nothing wrong with it! He was about to scrap it but it was cheaper to give it to me.

I drove it in germany for a couple of years. Then put a 5 speed box in it and drove it back to england, driving it for a further 9 months. Sold it to a irish fella for 200 quid.

Very waste full policy imo scrapping perfectly good cars because of age.

 

[Gary820]

If fitted from factory it should be present for the mot ref abs, when print out the test details it tells you how the warning lamp works
Usually a good pointer it should be there. Not all 80s had factory abs so prob a note to say if there. I only test 1 80 once a year so can't say for definite what the wording is.

Permanent 4 wheel drive says only use rollers if it's a type you know can without causing damage. I drop my 80 in the rollers, prob had more slip in the vc off road.

 

[Dave2000]

Germany has very strict mots.

In m earlier post I did point out that the Spanish MOT in Murcia is in fact run by the German TUV, hence I think the strict regulation.

'Cash for clunkers' i.e. taking perfect cars off the road and offering a new vehicle at a discounted price is such a cruel trick , it is only when the new cars start to go wrong out of warranty, and the first bill is a months mortgage do they realise they have been conned.

I watched some of the 'youtube' video's and it was very sad, destroying PERFECT cars in such a way that the engines can never be reused

OK whinge off, back on topic.

regards

Dave

 

[frank rabbets]

I think the MOT testers have become more uniform over the last 15 years or so. Gone are the days when pressure can be put on them by their employers to fail cars to get more work. If a tester has more than average failure rate they are investigated by the Dept. (Is that true Gary). I once had a failure on an almost leak free cracked exhaust which should have been passed. I had too much work on so told them to change it. On driving the car home WTF terrible exhaust leak which I traced to the bell fitting on the exhaust pipe/manifold. So back the garage for another new pipe. The fitter dropped the second new one from the first floor damaging pipe number three!! Obviously that's how the first replacement got damaged. To my amazement they were going to fit a second damaged pipe until I shouted and pointed out their stupidity. I did not punch them in the mouth though..

 

[Gary820]

Yeah you can get flagged up if failure rate too high, my work has been flagged for doing tests too quickly and too many tests at once lol.
Only one set of mot equipment so they said a 5 min overlap is ok. We got done for starting tests within 5 mins of each other and logged on 3 at once. One of lads holds the record for a 12 min mot beat my last one of 16 mins. Management push too much work in so we're told to do them quickly

Our fail rate is very low but most cars are serviced first, any repairs are picked up and sorted before the mot, hence the short times for tests.
We have a full time tester (boring job) I do 2 at most a week which is fine by me. Don't like doing them as takes me away from real work!!

 

[chapel gate]

Back in the good old bad old days dad used to ask me; "do your brakes work? Do your lights work? Are your tyres ok? Ok, ill bring you a ticket in tomorrow".

 

[yogi]

Back in the good old bad old days dad used to ask me; "do your brakes work? Do your lights work? Are your tyres ok? Ok, ill bring you a ticket in tomorrow".

Ironically here in Ireland that was very common in the testing of commercial vehicles and HGVs until recently, we have a mega quango here now called the RSA that have tightened it all up to the extent that you pay these w...k..s a levy for the test even though its not actually conducted by them, its still done privately. Unlike the MOT (NCT) that is conducted in big centres by a Spanish company!! Ironic really that the Germans are testing cars in Spain, while the Spanish are doing it in Ireland!!

 

[frank rabbets]

A spring hanger jumped up through of the floor of my Morris Minor due to rust so I bolted a flat sheet of steel on to the floor and then bolted the spring hanger to that. The MOT man tried to lever it off with a crow bar but could not so it passed. First year of MOT's I think. There was a place in Bristol where I left my Land Rovers for testing. Out of interest I marked all the wheel nuts and they always passed even though the cars had not even been moved. GOOD OLD DAYS.

 

[Gary820]

Got caught by our site manager logged on doing mot on a corsa I used to have, no real issue testing your own car but didn't seem to like the car was at home on the driveway
Got suspended from testing until went on a refresher course lol.

 

[Dave2000]

Got caught by our site manager logged on doing mot on a corsa I used to have, no real issue testing your own car but didn't seem to like the car was at home on the driveway
Got suspended from testing until went on a refresher course lol.

You mean you did not have a lorry accidently parked in front of the camera Gary? ;.)

regards

Dave