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John
Its an ongoing thing for me...
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 12:14pm >>>
Renate
So if your not an expert after ten years how long do you have to wait
to get your diploma. The other thing that I would like to know seeing as
I have you talting now is ( ARE YOU READY.)
The people how are they generally.
Very nice, very kind, and very good at looking after you (they also
like taking l'beast for a spin and have a habit of clambering all over
it)
what should one not do,
piss off authorities or forget to get the relevant (& all important
paperwork)
Where should one not go,
No place is out of limits, its just that one has to take guides if the
national parks are wanted to be visited, and have to take care in
"no-mans land" (the border areas/strips between Algeria and Libya)
constantly changing
What is the food like,
Very good, and I cook myself (tagines, cous cous, kinda things), food
is cheap and good, although scarce at times...
What about dieseses,
There are none! just the odd loose motions on occasions with the change
of climate, water and food. No pathogens survive in the heat anyway,
and if you are injured, you clean it up and leave it UNCOVERED as the
sun dries it up and out (sterilises it!) with 36 hours
What about the water,
Good, very potent, although in some places its potency is being
affected by gigantic water projects in the north (Libya, this is) that
takes it all from artesian wells that have survived for thousands of
years but are now being poisoned by salt
Do you need jabs first,
No, no jabs
whats the availability of machanics and parts,
mechanis are very good although they only speak French and Arabic....a
problem if something might go pearshaped. so advisable to take all
relevant or essential spares like hoses, v-belts, bushes, fluids (brake,
clutch, power steering, oil, oil filter, fuel filter if one is
finicky...(you don't actually need to take a fuel filter), GPS & comms
devices like Sat phones (hiring one of each between a group is very,
very reasonable price-wise)
what about the quality of the diesel,
diesel is excellent, bot the Libyan and Algeria stuff is excellent and
requires hardly any processing, so its about 3-7 dirhams (3 - 7 pence)
for a litre in libya and about 20-22 (20-22 pence) dirhams in algeria
what about all the insects ,spiders,snakes, mosies,
No mozzies except in oases like Ghat and Al Khufra (Libya) and oases in
Algeria. insects - beetles, spiders, snakes - horned vipers, asps, and
scorpions (2 kinds the mega-clawed variety and the megas-tailed variety
- avoid the mega-tailed varieties like the plague...)
what are the cops like,
There arn't any! (no speed cameras either....) just "military"
officals, police and border/checkpoint officials - not generally a
problem if paperwork is in order
is it generally safe in north Africa,
Yes!
are there any good places to go,
Yes! rock art, tassili national park (algeria), tamanrasset, ilizi etc,
tadrart-akakus national park (libya), ubari oasis), Murzuq, roman
prehistory (superbly surviving), Bengazi, Tobruck, etc
any WW11 sites of interest, museums etc,
Yes, loads of museums, Gardhes, Ghat, Tripoli, I haven't visited any
museums as such in algeria.
quite a few WW2 sites, ruined airplanes, trucks that are very old, dead
landrovers, dead cruisers....
Bascially tell me what you know the good and bad bits.
as usual I have questions which seem to come one after the other and I
have to slap myself to stop.
thanks if you are mad enough to answer these.You really should do some
work now its alright for me im at home still out of work with this
crappy back of mine.
Ask away! anything you wanna know if I have the answer I can provide
it.
No, I'm not in a working mood - pig-sick is what I am, so my mind is
wandering (as it does at times like this) to far better places than
this! than the cold Uk, then the crappy coy I work for etc., etc.
I'm thinking of diving again, and overlanding through Africa.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HD -T Ireland
Regards Renate
----- Original Message -----
From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [OT] Snow, ice and deserts.
John
Fair game, all you need is a lrft as basic mods (snorkel too if
anticipiting overlanding through Africa generally), the rest comes later
if the trips become suitably frequent. If your vehicle is well
maintained and you keep fluids, lubricants, consumables etc in kits, and
you have the basic tools and mechanical bits, including rescue
equipment, again, basic, then the world is your oyster.
You don't actually need extra mods (like lights) unless anticipating
night driving in the desert or whatever for instance.
Its the only environment that I'm really happy in, and comfortable
with, I'm not an expert, obviously, as I've only been doing this for
about 10 years.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 11:27am >>>
Renate
Maybe some day I will venture further than france and all that lovely
wine, but not for a good while as the two sons would not be too keen on
long driving and hot hot temps. And any way with all the mods I would
have to do to this cruiser I would be broke again. If it keeps going I
will be happy enough.
John c
92HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [OT] Snow & Ice.
John
In that case, consider Africa with me.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 11:04am >>>
No way i would much prefer the sun ,heat,blue skys,no rain,no frost,no
damp,no heaters that dont work anyway, driving with window down,shades
on,
and of course the happy feeling one gets from the sun and heat entising
you
out doors all the time.
Johnc
92HDJ 1HD-T Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Jones" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [OT] Snow & Ice.
> Guys and Gals - with all the talk of snow - should the next ELCO trip
be
> to Iceland and no I don't mean the shop. It has always been a "must
go
> to one day" destination for me.
>
> Thinking of the Glaciers - Gareth Jones. Sunny South Wales.
>
>
>
> --
> European Land Cruiser Owners Mailing List
> Further Info: http://www.landcruisers.info/lists/
>
Its an ongoing thing for me...
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 12:14pm >>>
Renate
So if your not an expert after ten years how long do you have to wait
to get your diploma. The other thing that I would like to know seeing as
I have you talting now is ( ARE YOU READY.)
The people how are they generally.
Very nice, very kind, and very good at looking after you (they also
like taking l'beast for a spin and have a habit of clambering all over
it)
what should one not do,
piss off authorities or forget to get the relevant (& all important
paperwork)
Where should one not go,
No place is out of limits, its just that one has to take guides if the
national parks are wanted to be visited, and have to take care in
"no-mans land" (the border areas/strips between Algeria and Libya)
constantly changing
What is the food like,
Very good, and I cook myself (tagines, cous cous, kinda things), food
is cheap and good, although scarce at times...
What about dieseses,
There are none! just the odd loose motions on occasions with the change
of climate, water and food. No pathogens survive in the heat anyway,
and if you are injured, you clean it up and leave it UNCOVERED as the
sun dries it up and out (sterilises it!) with 36 hours
What about the water,
Good, very potent, although in some places its potency is being
affected by gigantic water projects in the north (Libya, this is) that
takes it all from artesian wells that have survived for thousands of
years but are now being poisoned by salt
Do you need jabs first,
No, no jabs
whats the availability of machanics and parts,
mechanis are very good although they only speak French and Arabic....a
problem if something might go pearshaped. so advisable to take all
relevant or essential spares like hoses, v-belts, bushes, fluids (brake,
clutch, power steering, oil, oil filter, fuel filter if one is
finicky...(you don't actually need to take a fuel filter), GPS & comms
devices like Sat phones (hiring one of each between a group is very,
very reasonable price-wise)
what about the quality of the diesel,
diesel is excellent, bot the Libyan and Algeria stuff is excellent and
requires hardly any processing, so its about 3-7 dirhams (3 - 7 pence)
for a litre in libya and about 20-22 (20-22 pence) dirhams in algeria
what about all the insects ,spiders,snakes, mosies,
No mozzies except in oases like Ghat and Al Khufra (Libya) and oases in
Algeria. insects - beetles, spiders, snakes - horned vipers, asps, and
scorpions (2 kinds the mega-clawed variety and the megas-tailed variety
- avoid the mega-tailed varieties like the plague...)
what are the cops like,
There arn't any! (no speed cameras either....) just "military"
officals, police and border/checkpoint officials - not generally a
problem if paperwork is in order
is it generally safe in north Africa,
Yes!
are there any good places to go,
Yes! rock art, tassili national park (algeria), tamanrasset, ilizi etc,
tadrart-akakus national park (libya), ubari oasis), Murzuq, roman
prehistory (superbly surviving), Bengazi, Tobruck, etc
any WW11 sites of interest, museums etc,
Yes, loads of museums, Gardhes, Ghat, Tripoli, I haven't visited any
museums as such in algeria.
quite a few WW2 sites, ruined airplanes, trucks that are very old, dead
landrovers, dead cruisers....
Bascially tell me what you know the good and bad bits.
as usual I have questions which seem to come one after the other and I
have to slap myself to stop.
thanks if you are mad enough to answer these.You really should do some
work now its alright for me im at home still out of work with this
crappy back of mine.
Ask away! anything you wanna know if I have the answer I can provide
it.
No, I'm not in a working mood - pig-sick is what I am, so my mind is
wandering (as it does at times like this) to far better places than
this! than the cold Uk, then the crappy coy I work for etc., etc.
I'm thinking of diving again, and overlanding through Africa.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HD -T Ireland
Regards Renate
----- Original Message -----
From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [OT] Snow, ice and deserts.
John
Fair game, all you need is a lrft as basic mods (snorkel too if
anticipiting overlanding through Africa generally), the rest comes later
if the trips become suitably frequent. If your vehicle is well
maintained and you keep fluids, lubricants, consumables etc in kits, and
you have the basic tools and mechanical bits, including rescue
equipment, again, basic, then the world is your oyster.
You don't actually need extra mods (like lights) unless anticipating
night driving in the desert or whatever for instance.
Its the only environment that I'm really happy in, and comfortable
with, I'm not an expert, obviously, as I've only been doing this for
about 10 years.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 11:27am >>>
Renate
Maybe some day I will venture further than france and all that lovely
wine, but not for a good while as the two sons would not be too keen on
long driving and hot hot temps. And any way with all the mods I would
have to do to this cruiser I would be broke again. If it keeps going I
will be happy enough.
John c
92HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [OT] Snow & Ice.
John
In that case, consider Africa with me.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 02/22/05 11:04am >>>
No way i would much prefer the sun ,heat,blue skys,no rain,no frost,no
damp,no heaters that dont work anyway, driving with window down,shades
on,
and of course the happy feeling one gets from the sun and heat entising
you
out doors all the time.
Johnc
92HDJ 1HD-T Ireland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Jones" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [OT] Snow & Ice.
> Guys and Gals - with all the talk of snow - should the next ELCO trip
be
> to Iceland and no I don't mean the shop. It has always been a "must
go
> to one day" destination for me.
>
> Thinking of the Glaciers - Gareth Jones. Sunny South Wales.
>
>
>
> --
> European Land Cruiser Owners Mailing List
> Further Info: http://www.landcruisers.info/lists/
>