[springs and shocks]

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Hi Guys
Would you believe that I have still not received my OME shocks and springs,
delayed due to a damper missing or something like that. Paid for them two
weeks ago and will not have them untill nextweek or the week after that. I
hope all the good things you have said will come true for me. Yes of course
there has to be a question. I found a mechanic who said he will fit them all
but has never done this to a VX before. I asked him how much and he diden't
know because he hasn't done it before. He seems Ok a few 4x4s out side ,
only works on 4x4s and used to work in Aus on the cruisers in the mines. How
long would it take to replace the four shocks and springs, or should I say
how long did it take you guys to do it. He told me that he will charge 30
euro per hour for the work, so i told him I would find out how long it
should take him. That seems fair enough.
Thanks as usual
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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John,
I've done two spring & damper changes recently - the first one I had the
use of a forklift so lifted the 80 up nice and high an end at a time,
removed dampers, disconnected roll bar, springs fall out, new springs in
without compressors, all back together, took about half an hour an axle.
Second one was with a very big jack on the drive, a corner at a time but
same procedure as before otherwise, took about an hour per axle because
some of the damper nuts were seized.
A professional in a workshop should overcome most problems to get it all
done inside two hours I'd have thought, even if they're not too familiar
with 80's.
Best Regards,
Jon.
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Sent: 19 May 2005 13:16
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] [springs and shocks]
Hi Guys
Would you believe that I have still not received my OME shocks and
springs,
delayed due to a damper missing or something like that. Paid for them
two
weeks ago and will not have them untill nextweek or the week after that.
I
hope all the good things you have said will come true for me. Yes of
course
there has to be a question. I found a mechanic who said he will fit them
all
but has never done this to a VX before. I asked him how much and he
diden't
know because he hasn't done it before. He seems Ok a few 4x4s out side ,
only works on 4x4s and used to work in Aus on the cruisers in the mines.
How
long would it take to replace the four shocks and springs, or should I
say
how long did it take you guys to do it. He told me that he will charge
30
euro per hour for the work, so i told him I would find out how long it
should take him. That seems fair enough.
Thanks as usual
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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Jon - have a look at the "Slee off road" site I seem to recall a set of
hints and tips for suspension changes.
One of the problem areas is siezed nuts ( thanks, we have heard all the
jokes )
Identify all the nuts and bolts you need to undo and start spraying
them with WD40 or the like well in advance of starting the job, this
makes life a lot easier.
Regards Gareth Jones.
 
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On 5/19/05, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Oh well, with John's luck, a few seized bolts will break and will need
to exracted Then the mechanic wil mix up the frnt and rear springs
:)
John, make sure the shock absorber washers are placed correctly or the
bushes will be ruined pretty soon.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Guys
I had a look at the Sleeoff road site and Gareth you were right about the
seized nuts im sure knowing my luck or lack of it all my nuts will be seized
and I will need to lubricate them some time before. What are caster
corrections and what do they do, do I need them, the guy I have purchased
from didn't say anything about them. What is the purpose of swaybar drop
blocks and do I need them.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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John,
At 30 Euro's an hour he could have my work when I don't fancy it.
Regards,
 
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On 5/19/05, Clive Marks <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Oh, that's not unusally cheap. It's just that in the UK car mechanics
charge you an arm and a leg.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Guys
I think that its expensive for to get something done, the Auto guy is 50
euro an hour and Toyota is 50 euro an hour. You guys must make a lot of
money if you think that 30 euro is cheap for an hours work.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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On 5/19/05, john byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
John,
You may think so but we possibly could not comment ;-)
The fact of the matter is that whenever a price is quoted in a
currency rated below the value of pound sterling, say in Euro, Fiji
Dollars or Iraqi Dinnars (2,689 to GBP), as a ruke of thumb it will be
matched here in =A3=A3=A3 :)
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Guys
I just took delivery of my OME stuff, about time too says me. To all of you
who have fitted them, what is the (A) and the (B) for on the springs. I
think it is either one side A and the other B or front and back. All the
shocks seem the same so there should be no problem there. I will have to
mark them all for the guy who is fitting them after all I dont want a very
mixed up looking cruiser although it would match the driver now wouldn't it.
Next on the hit list is the tyres .
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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Hi John
I need to investigate springs and shocks so will be watching your posts for
top tips etc. Re tyres I have recently replaced 2 tyres on the front of the
cruiser with Bridgestone duellers a/t 694s and very impressed with them.
Stick to the road in wet or dry and are ok for muddy fields not sure about
deep mud etc but all in good tyres and not too expensive.
All the best
Simon Hughes
 
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Hi John,
Take a look at the tech notes on the Slee site at:
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/technical/tz_ome.htm
This provides a very handy guide for you and your mechanic, although
the only thing to bear in mind is that the instructions are for a US
vehicle, so any instructions relating to side specific (left or right)
fitting of springs should be reversed.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Hi Simon
You can depend on me to keep you up to date on all the things I will be
doing. I will not be putting the springs etc on the cruiser untill July when
we come back from out trip to France. I may be picking up tyres while
driving through the UK or I may get them shipped to me, choices choices. I
was also looking at the etreads that Avon and Colway but am unsure about
retreads in general. I know that by me asking a lot of questions it saves
others doing the same and then we all learn. Because I know next to shag all
about mecanical things and computers I get to ask all the silly questions
about things that others just take for granted they know.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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Hi John
Re-treads? Frankly I would rather not only because I see enough broken
tyres on the hard shoulder of the M2 to realise that if they blow up on
trucks they will blow up on your cruiser. I have heard good about the BFG
A/Ts and I personally like the 694s both have good reviews. But then when I
was in Dubai the desert tour guys were using grandtreks and dropping
pressure to 20lbs and we never got stuck. It is tough and I agonised over
tyres for months until I went for the 694s and so far no regrets.
I think if you haggle you can get the 694s for around ?100 fitted maybe less
if you get 4 + spare wheel. For a long trip it may be worth the money to get
some peace of mind. I can do some research if you want.
Regards
Simon Hughes
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Hi Simon
Thanks for the offer of looking into tyres for me. I have looked at a lot of
tyres and tyring to compare price with price and then price with quality,
and then what use, like AT or ROAD which is what I will use them for most of
the time anyway. I would like two sets of wheels/tyres but at the moment
will not budget. I can get 5 new General tyres in size 33s for about 700
euro but I do not want to spend that if I do not have to. I know the AT will
wear a bit faster on the road than a road tyre but then if I ever get to
actually go off roading road tyres will be crap. Choices and more choices
they kill me trying to get it right. I want usually what I can't have at
least for a while.I saw some nice wheels for the cruiser but they would not
deliver to me, same as ever but I dont give up.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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John
Went thru same process. A/Ts should not wear that much worse than roads as
I have read so many good reports about the longevity of the tyres I cannot
imagine this will happen. Frankly I think that my tyres wear more from
going bonkers round roundabouts than simple gentle driving down the
motorway. So I try not to go mad and remember that the tyres cost me large
and should really be more sensible.
Road tyres are useless off road in nearly all situations but you are driving
one of the best off-roaders in the world and the car will pull you out of
most situations you find yourself in. Imagine trying to drive across a
soaking wet football field with standard road going grandtreks in the
pouring rain? All 4 wheels spinning and the car is drifting completely the
wrong direction, eased off, tyres caught and we were off again. Great fun
but I guess I was not to popular with the groundsman.
Happy deciding.
Regards
Simon Hughes
 
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