Steering arm loose

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Jon,
I've noticed that a few on the 80scool etc. board have noticed them slipping
as well.
I do check mine regularily but havn't taken them off (even when redoing
birfs) so maybe thats the trick?
Lal
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Jon Wildsmith
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:50 AM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Snow woe
I love snow, but not when I'm trying to work on my car, every time I go
out there I get cold and wet.
I'll tell you all a tale in case it ever effects you:
I spent the weekend abusing my car as usual until Sunday mid day when
the steering went very vague on me. I had just clambered over some big
fallen trees so assumed I'd caught the track bar but closer inspection
revealed the passenger side steering arm that bolts to the bottom of the
swivel housing was only held in place by one loose stud, the others
having come loose most of the way and then sheared off.
About 2 1/2 years ago I had a new front axle casing and ever since I've
had problems with these studs coming loose. Once I knew about it I'd
check and tighten them on a regular basis, no amount of thread lock
would work. About 12 months ago they stopped coming loose and I stopped
checking ... until now.
Apparently Landrover solved this problem about 20 years ago, they fit
lock plates / tabs. When I rebuild it I shall fabricate something
similar.
My theory is that the studs were removed when the casing was done, and
they allowed grease into the threads so thread lock compounds had no
chance of working ever since, and you can't clean them in situ because
the swivel is full of grease. Probably washing the parts thoroughly and
thread locking would work but I shan't be taking chances.
Most annoying of all is you don't even need to undo those studs to get
the swivel housing off so they could have left them alone.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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Brendan,
I think that the price and availability of the parts may well have gone down
and the price up now! Are you bidding?
Anthony Graham
1994HDJ801HD-T
West Wales
UK
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Brendan Lally
Sent: 23 February 2005 18:00
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Steering arm loose
Jon,
I've noticed that a few on the 80scool etc. board have noticed them slipping
as well.
I do check mine regularily but havn't taken them off (even when redoing
birfs) so maybe thats the trick?
Lal
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Jon Wildsmith
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:50 AM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Snow woe
I love snow, but not when I'm trying to work on my car, every time I go
out there I get cold and wet.
I'll tell you all a tale in case it ever effects you:
I spent the weekend abusing my car as usual until Sunday mid day when
the steering went very vague on me. I had just clambered over some big
fallen trees so assumed I'd caught the track bar but closer inspection
revealed the passenger side steering arm that bolts to the bottom of the
swivel housing was only held in place by one loose stud, the others
having come loose most of the way and then sheared off.
About 2 1/2 years ago I had a new front axle casing and ever since I've
had problems with these studs coming loose. Once I knew about it I'd
check and tighten them on a regular basis, no amount of thread lock
would work. About 12 months ago they stopped coming loose and I stopped
checking ... until now.
Apparently Landrover solved this problem about 20 years ago, they fit
lock plates / tabs. When I rebuild it I shall fabricate something
similar.
My theory is that the studs were removed when the casing was done, and
they allowed grease into the threads so thread lock compounds had no
chance of working ever since, and you can't clean them in situ because
the swivel is full of grease. Probably washing the parts thoroughly and
thread locking would work but I shan't be taking chances.
Most annoying of all is you don't even need to undo those studs to get
the swivel housing off so they could have left them alone.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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I am very sorry Brendan I returned the wrong email I meant to reply to Dave
Harris please accept my apology.
Anthony Graham
1994HDJ801HD-T
West Wales
UK
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Brendan Lally
Sent: 23 February 2005 18:00
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Steering arm loose
Jon,
I've noticed that a few on the 80scool etc. board have noticed them slipping
as well.
I do check mine regularily but havn't taken them off (even when redoing
birfs) so maybe thats the trick?
Lal
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Jon Wildsmith
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:50 AM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Snow woe
I love snow, but not when I'm trying to work on my car, every time I go
out there I get cold and wet.
I'll tell you all a tale in case it ever effects you:
I spent the weekend abusing my car as usual until Sunday mid day when
the steering went very vague on me. I had just clambered over some big
fallen trees so assumed I'd caught the track bar but closer inspection
revealed the passenger side steering arm that bolts to the bottom of the
swivel housing was only held in place by one loose stud, the others
having come loose most of the way and then sheared off.
About 2 1/2 years ago I had a new front axle casing and ever since I've
had problems with these studs coming loose. Once I knew about it I'd
check and tighten them on a regular basis, no amount of thread lock
would work. About 12 months ago they stopped coming loose and I stopped
checking ... until now.
Apparently Landrover solved this problem about 20 years ago, they fit
lock plates / tabs. When I rebuild it I shall fabricate something
similar.
My theory is that the studs were removed when the casing was done, and
they allowed grease into the threads so thread lock compounds had no
chance of working ever since, and you can't clean them in situ because
the swivel is full of grease. Probably washing the parts thoroughly and
thread locking would work but I shan't be taking chances.
Most annoying of all is you don't even need to undo those studs to get
the swivel housing off so they could have left them alone.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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[80 cruiser on e-bay]

Hi Guys
I bet you that this cruiser is already gone to heaven in pieces, there wont
be any dust settling on this machine. And he will only let you take things
off his hands if you collect, suppose that leaves me out in the cold but not
snow yet.If I saw one over here I would have a look at bits, I fancy leather
seats as mine only has the cloth ones, not as nice. Sure thats life.
John C
92HDJ 80 !HD-T Ireland
 
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I thought I'd heard mention of this fault before, seems to be one of the
few weak points, but so easy for them to have fixed ...
In theory you'd take the arm off to take the swivel housing off so not
needed for a birf job. In practice the swivel comes off without removing
the arm anyway.
I'll fix the arm to the swivel housing off the car. There's a small bit
of stud visible inside the housing, so one option is to put a tack weld
on that visible stud thread to foul the thread, maximum thread lock I
think. The Landrover style solution will only work if I use bolts
instead of the studs.
Still have to remove one last stubborn sheared stud before I decide.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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