Sunday in BBNPA

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Peter,
Another trip to Wales ?..... in Nov ?... with the water ?.... and the
obvious risks involved ?
YES PLEASE !!... count me in.
What a great day Sunday was, brilliantly executed and organised by your good
self.
GPS, Maps, CB, Great communication, excellent route and timing, A great
crowd and recovery for all, it was a real pleasure and we loved it. It is
such a shame we will lose the right to enjoy a drive like this due to the
selfishness of others.
What really surprised me was how hard walking must be as a hobby. The trail
bikers all waved and smiled and opened gates etc, the other guys in the Land
rovers looked happy, the Framer on his Quad, but all the walkers we passed
looked well p***ed off.
It must be the terrain or the whole grain dehydrated food ??
Cheers
Ade,
FJ80 4.5, 2.5 OME Lift, HF&CB, ARB, Snorkel, Breathers, and not a clue how
to drive
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From: "Ian Rubie" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:30:47 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I wish to echo the general concensus, a great day out. Glad you got home OK
Chas, as you said that was a long and tricky tow. Thanks to Toby for the
loan of his Landcruiser while mine is having an extended stay at a garage -
long story, don't ask. I have added some pictures to Peters thread on
Difflock.
Ian
HDJ80 Long range fuel tank (nearly finished).
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From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:10:06 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hey Chas
Ah now I see the problem you got yourself into.
I must make a mental note not to follow the fella with the sign on his rear
window I can go anywhere.
Same colour cruiser as mine apart from the muddy colour.
Hopefully the starter will keep up its good behavier for you.
Its a good job you have the snorkel or you may have real trouble.
John 92HDj 80 1HDT
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:30:52 +0100
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [ADMIN] Salisbury Plain Autumn 2006 Heads Up
From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]>
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
On 16/10/06 15:30, "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
let
this
Hope I can make it this time. Off to Zanzibar for Christmas, going Dec 14th
so hopefully it will be before then. Be nice to meet some more faces.
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
HDJ-81 + +
Mob: 07831 458 793
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From: "Chas" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:19:54 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi John,
Well normally Cruisers can go anywhere but there's an exception to every rule, but to see an, I think impressive, Cruiser feat look at this link, http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=3D1nwTPEZtLoA&eurl=3D&iurl=3Dhttp://sjl-st
atic7.sjl.youtube.com/vi/1nwTPEZtLoA/2.jpg&t=3DOEgsToPDskIWJ9NvDDf020dXxwx__HG
5
This was obviously taken before the ducking, it's not a very good quality
clip, the original is but it lost some in the transfer to Youtube.
TTFN
Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:01:32 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Nice one Chas.
The wobbly bit is caused by me suddenly realising how close Chas is and
trying to scramble up the hillside and out of the way!
For the record did you have any lockers engaged for that climb? I forgot to
ask you.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


every
link,
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=3D1nwTPEZtLoA&eurl=3D&iurl=3Dhttp://sjl-
static7.sjl.youtube.com/vi/1nwTPEZtLoA/2.jpg&t=3DOEgsToPDskIWJ9NvDDf020dXxwx
quality
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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:05:04 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Also thanks for bringing the wheel rim Ian, and thank you Toby for supplying
it.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:33:31 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I'm thinking of organising another green laning day later this year =3D
before
the RUPPs finally close in Wales. End of this month or early November.
I'm thinking maybe Strata Florida area. Strata Florida (West Wales) is a
fantastic and long lane with many water crossings, although they can get
quite deep after very wet weather so we'll have to plan accordingly =3D
nearer
the time. Lots of other lanes in the area at the moment. The trip will =3D
not
be as dramatic as last Sunday in terms of the terrain but the scenery in =3D
the
area is, if anything even more stunning.
As the days are getting short it will mean an early start and a
correspondingly early finish. I would aim to meet at Brecon around 8 =3D
a.m.
The trip will be limited to 6 vehicles (me + five others).
Who would, in principle, be up for it?
[Email address removed]
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
=3DA0
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not =3D
shun
it.
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From: "Chas" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:51:53 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi Pete,
Lockers? only front, back and centre.
TTFN
Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
and
forgot
not
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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:00:21 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Oh, just those ones. That's OK then
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


[mailto:[Email address removed]]
and
forgot
not
16/10/2006
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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:24:44 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
One place taken...
Four spaces left
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


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From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: [ELCO] injector pump
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:50:20 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi Guys
A while back Julian advised me on what to do to correct the vibrations i am
having when the cruiser is put into drive.
I either deleted it or filed it somewhere so safe now I cant even find it.
Something at the rear of the injector pump to adjust the fuel intake, it even had a name.
Could someone please remind me what i am looking for, (is it a nut, screw),
and where it is or if someone has a pic that would be even nicer.
I have reached the end with the vibrations and either I can correxct it or
ill have to bring it back to the pump guy who fixed it.
I would like to avoid doing the latter as its a good two hour drive each way.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:18:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [ELCO] injector pump
From: Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]>
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi John,
Here is the original message:
It's called the load volume screw and is from memory positioned just
above the point at the back of the pump where the fuel is distributed
to the injectors.
The screw has a 6mm hex head as well as a flat cut in it for a
screwdriver and is locked by a 12mm nut (hidden from view).

ISTR that you turn it clockwise to increase the fueling and
anticlockwise to reduce the fueling. Only adjust in 1/4 or 1/8 of a
turn increments and make a note of exactly what changes you make each
time so that you can keep track of it.
Typically your engine will require 13-14 cc of fuel for each squirt at
around 2000rpm - half a turn on the Load Volume Screw is equivalent to
3cc of fuel - so the key is to only do very small turns at a time.

I suggest that you tweak it, then take it for a run up a local hill
watching carefully for smoke out the back and then tweak again until
you strike the balance of a little bit of smoke under hard acceleration
or driving up hill, but nothing noticeable when driving normally on the
flat.

If you don't get the 90 degree exhaust pipe at the back it will be
difficult to spot without someone driving behind you monitoring it.

Another thing to note, you obviously need to do the smoke test when the
engine is warm and also you may well find that the tickover revs
increase a bit as the engine becomes properly fuelled.

A local injection company actually suggest intially adjusting the
fuelling to the point where the tickover has risen to it's highest
point and then work from there to adjust for smoke.

Generally whiteish smoke means under fuelling and black smoke indicates
over fuelling.

Also note, when you do the adjustment, hold the LV screw tightly in
position when you tighten up the locking nut, otherwise it will move.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] injector pump
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:38:41 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Thanks Julian
Ill have a look and see what i can make of it.
cheers
john
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From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:48 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Pete
Got home safely - realised there is quite a bit of damage on the step,
driver side, but not to worry, I'm not fussed about that. The gearbox got a
hell of a lot of stick; so far it seems to be working okay, but I am worried
that it has sustained damage, the starter motor got some stick too, and the
bone-shaking felt as if l'beast would start breaking up, so I'm just waiting
and hoping l'beast hasn't sustained any serious, long-lasting damage,
because if it has, I'm going to be asking for some considerable help with
mending it from a few of you! So I hope you won't mind this?, and by the
way, I'm not regretful of the day, nor am I blaming any of you - I wasn't
expecting the day to pan out the way it did, because if I had known, I
wouldn't have done it!
A good day methinks, but totally unexpected - I did it with no RR-FR diff
which some said I couldn't do the gap without it, but just to prove them
wrong...I did it.
The damage that Clive thought was due to nose-ending into the stream bit was
old damage, so don't worry about that Clive.
Thanks Pete, for a good day
Regards
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 16 October 2006 08:59
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Many thanks to all those tha came along and made it such an enjoyable day
out. Hopefully the "eventful" end to the day didn't dampen the enthusiasm?
I found the trip VERY enjoyable as did SWMBO and the rest of my brood, the
Gap was a bit more slippery than it was last week and was quite
"interesting". It's a damn shame that we've now almost certainly lost this
fantastic lane for good!!
I'd be very greatful if all those taking part could give me feedback with
their honest opinions of the day? Good points, bad points, was the day too
long, was the nature of the day what you expected, or better, or worse, etc.
Would you come along on any future trips? I can use the information to
improve the planning of any future trips.
For those that don't yet know, I managed to get Chas' LC started again just
after 8pm and I've heard that he then got home safely and without further
drama just after 10. He now just has to get it dried out again!!
I haven't heard from Renate yet but I'm assuming she got home OK?
My thanks to Adrian, Mark and John for pulling my Cruiser "back from the
brink" as it were!!
My thanks also to Ian for recovering Chas' crippled Cruiser back to
civilisation.
Andrew (not LC nor ELCO) blew a head gasket just outside Merthyr and was
unable to join us. I've heard that the RAC got him home OK.
Once again, many thanks to one and all.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.

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From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:45:43 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
pete
would be interested but - once bitten twice shy? the max is 5 vehicles and i
can't say yay or nay until nearer the event? so I'd probably be too late...
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 09:34
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Another laning day?
I'm thinking of organising another green laning day later this year before
the RUPPs finally close in Wales. End of this month or early November.
I'm thinking maybe Strata Florida area. Strata Florida (West Wales) is a
fantastic and long lane with many water crossings, although they can get
quite deep after very wet weather so we'll have to plan accordingly nearer
the time. Lots of other lanes in the area at the moment. The trip will not
be as dramatic as last Sunday in terms of the terrain but the scenery in the
area is, if anything even more stunning.
As the days are getting short it will mean an early start and a
correspondingly early finish. I would aim to meet at Brecon around 8 a.m.
The trip will be limited to 6 vehicles (me + five others).
Who would, in principle, be up for it?
[Email address removed]
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
=A0
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=A0
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From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:50:10 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Pete
Crikey that was quick! you're pressuring me arn't you? (!)
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 10:25
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
One place taken...
Four spaces left
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.

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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:27:51 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I'm glad you got home OK Renate - I was beginning to be worried by your
silence! ;-)
To be fair though, I did put up links to a video and some pictures of the
Gap so that everyone at least had an idea of what to expect! ;-)
Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed it - we'll do some serious and more extreme
lanes next time for you!
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


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From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:30:50 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Moi, pressurisez vous? Je ne r=3DEAverais pas de lui, pas une chance
mademoiselle!
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
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Now that's impressive!
Hope the car dries out soon Chas!
Regards,
Mark Hughes
Sheffield, UK
2000 Colorado 3.0TD GX (95 Series), Standard
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 07:02
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Nice one Chas.
The wobbly bit is caused by me suddenly realising how close Chas is and
trying to scramble up the hillside and out of the way!
For the record did you have any lockers engaged for that climb? I forgot to
ask you.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
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Pete
I couldn't download the .mov clips, and same with the links and things - my
connection is an ancient dial-up one that takes about 3 hrs to download 3
mbs of info...
I did try to access but got a blurred image and then the laptop ceased, I
rebooted and started again, after the 3rd time I couldn't be asked to do it
again!
That's why I said that I wasn't blaming anyone, and I don't hold any
grudges, but I might want help from you guys if things go AWOL with l'beast.
Serious and more extreme?! a joke methinks...;-)
And no, mi RR-FR diff has NEVER worked! the guy who had l'beast before me
(a sheep farmer in wales...)had the diff looked at on three separate
occasions, but it couldn't be sorted, so there you have it - no RR-FR diff,
just Central.
cheers
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 16:28
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
I'm glad you got home OK Renate - I was beginning to be worried by your
silence! ;-)
To be fair though, I did put up links to a video and some pictures of the
Gap so that everyone at least had an idea of what to expect! ;-)
Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed it - we'll do some serious and more extreme
lanes next time for you!
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.

 

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Adrian
They were well p*****d off! but can you blame them when we're all SO good at
what WE do...!
Renate, with no maps, no GPS, lots of driver skill (more appropriate for the
desert methinks!), and no diffs!
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Adrian
Sent: 18 October 2006 09:29
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Peter,
Another trip to Wales ?..... in Nov ?... with the water ?.... and the
obvious risks involved ?
YES PLEASE !!... count me in.
What a great day Sunday was, brilliantly executed and organised by your good
self.
GPS, Maps, CB, Great communication, excellent route and timing, A great
crowd and recovery for all, it was a real pleasure and we loved it. It is
such a shame we will lose the right to enjoy a drive like this due to the
selfishness of others.
What really surprised me was how hard walking must be as a hobby. The trail
bikers all waved and smiled and opened gates etc, the other guys in the Land
rovers looked happy, the Framer on his Quad, but all the walkers we passed
looked well p***ed off.
It must be the terrain or the whole grain dehydrated food ??
Cheers
Ade,
FJ80 4.5, 2.5 OME Lift, HF&CB, ARB, Snorkel, Breathers, and not a clue how
to drive
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
Sent: 17 October 2006 18:15
Subject: [ELCO Digest]
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**=======================================================================From: "Ian Rubie" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:30:47 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I wish to echo the general concensus, a great day out. Glad you got home OK
Chas, as you said that was a long and tricky tow. Thanks to Toby for the
loan of his Landcruiser while mine is having an extended stay at a garage -
long story, don't ask. I have added some pictures to Peters thread on
Difflock.
Ian
HDJ80 Long range fuel tank (nearly finished).
=======================================================================From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:10:06 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hey Chas
Ah now I see the problem you got yourself into.
I must make a mental note not to follow the fella with the sign on his rear
window I can go anywhere.
Same colour cruiser as mine apart from the muddy colour.
Hopefully the starter will keep up its good behavier for you.
Its a good job you have the snorkel or you may have real trouble.
John 92HDj 80 1HDT
=======================================================================Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:30:52 +0100
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [ADMIN] Salisbury Plain Autumn 2006 Heads Up
From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]>
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
On 16/10/06 15:30, "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Hope I can make it this time. Off to Zanzibar for Christmas, going Dec 14th
so hopefully it will be before then. Be nice to meet some more faces.
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
HDJ-81 + +
Mob: 07831 458 793
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=======================================================================From: "Chas" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:19:54 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi John,
Well normally Cruisers can go anywhere but there's an exception to every
rule, but to see an, I think impressive, Cruiser feat look at this link,
http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=1nwTPEZtLoA&eurl=&iurl=http://sjl-st
atic7.sjl.youtube.com/vi/1nwTPEZtLoA/2.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIWJ9NvDDf020dXxwx__HG
5
This was obviously taken before the ducking, it's not a very good quality
clip, the original is but it lost some in the transfer to Youtube.
TTFN
Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:01:32 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Nice one Chas.
The wobbly bit is caused by me suddenly realising how close Chas is and
trying to scramble up the hillside and out of the way!
For the record did you have any lockers engaged for that climb? I forgot to
ask you.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:05:04 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Also thanks for bringing the wheel rim Ian, and thank you Toby for supplying
it.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:33:31 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I'm thinking of organising another green laning day later this year before
the RUPPs finally close in Wales. End of this month or early November.
I'm thinking maybe Strata Florida area. Strata Florida (West Wales) is a
fantastic and long lane with many water crossings, although they can get
quite deep after very wet weather so we'll have to plan accordingly nearer
the time. Lots of other lanes in the area at the moment. The trip will not
be as dramatic as last Sunday in terms of the terrain but the scenery in the
area is, if anything even more stunning.
As the days are getting short it will mean an early start and a
correspondingly early finish. I would aim to meet at Brecon around 8 a.m.
The trip will be limited to 6 vehicles (me + five others).
Who would, in principle, be up for it?
[Email address removed]
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
=A0
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
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=======================================================================From: "Chas" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:51:53 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi Pete,
Lockers? only front, back and centre.
TTFN
Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:00:21 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Oh, just those ones. That's OK then
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:24:44 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
One place taken...
Four spaces left
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=======================================================================From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: [ELCO] injector pump
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:50:20 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi Guys
A while back Julian advised me on what to do to correct the vibrations i am
having when the cruiser is put into drive.
I either deleted it or filed it somewhere so safe now I cant even find it.
Something at the rear of the injector pump to adjust the fuel intake, it
even had a name.
Could someone please remind me what i am looking for, (is it a nut, screw),
and where it is or if someone has a pic that would be even nicer.
I have reached the end with the vibrations and either I can correxct it or
ill have to bring it back to the pump guy who fixed it.
I would like to avoid doing the latter as its a good two hour drive each
way.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
=======================================================================Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:18:06 +0100
Subject: Re: [ELCO] injector pump
From: Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]>
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Hi John,
Here is the original message:
It's called the load volume screw and is from memory positioned just
above the point at the back of the pump where the fuel is distributed
to the injectors.
The screw has a 6mm hex head as well as a flat cut in it for a
screwdriver and is locked by a 12mm nut (hidden from view).
ISTR that you turn it clockwise to increase the fueling and
anticlockwise to reduce the fueling. Only adjust in 1/4 or 1/8 of a
turn increments and make a note of exactly what changes you make each
time so that you can keep track of it.
Typically your engine will require 13-14 cc of fuel for each squirt at
around 2000rpm - half a turn on the Load Volume Screw is equivalent to
3cc of fuel - so the key is to only do very small turns at a time.
I suggest that you tweak it, then take it for a run up a local hill
watching carefully for smoke out the back and then tweak again until
you strike the balance of a little bit of smoke under hard acceleration
or driving up hill, but nothing noticeable when driving normally on the
flat.
If you don't get the 90 degree exhaust pipe at the back it will be
difficult to spot without someone driving behind you monitoring it.
Another thing to note, you obviously need to do the smoke test when the
engine is warm and also you may well find that the tickover revs
increase a bit as the engine becomes properly fuelled.
A local injection company actually suggest intially adjusting the
fuelling to the point where the tickover has risen to it's highest
point and then work from there to adjust for smoke.
Generally whiteish smoke means under fuelling and black smoke indicates
over fuelling.
Also note, when you do the adjustment, hold the LV screw tightly in
position when you tighten up the locking nut, otherwise it will move.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
=======================================================================From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: Re: [ELCO] injector pump
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:38:41 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Thanks Julian
Ill have a look and see what i can make of it.
cheers
john
=======================================================================From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:48 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Pete
Got home safely - realised there is quite a bit of damage on the step,
driver side, but not to worry, I'm not fussed about that. The gearbox got a
hell of a lot of stick; so far it seems to be working okay, but I am worried
that it has sustained damage, the starter motor got some stick too, and the
bone-shaking felt as if l'beast would start breaking up, so I'm just waiting
and hoping l'beast hasn't sustained any serious, long-lasting damage,
because if it has, I'm going to be asking for some considerable help with
mending it from a few of you! So I hope you won't mind this?, and by the
way, I'm not regretful of the day, nor am I blaming any of you - I wasn't
expecting the day to pan out the way it did, because if I had known, I
wouldn't have done it!
A good day methinks, but totally unexpected - I did it with no RR-FR diff
which some said I couldn't do the gap without it, but just to prove them
wrong...I did it.
The damage that Clive thought was due to nose-ending into the stream bit was
old damage, so don't worry about that Clive.
Thanks Pete, for a good day
Regards
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 16 October 2006 08:59
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Many thanks to all those tha came along and made it such an enjoyable day
out. Hopefully the "eventful" end to the day didn't dampen the enthusiasm?
I found the trip VERY enjoyable as did SWMBO and the rest of my brood, the
Gap was a bit more slippery than it was last week and was quite
"interesting". It's a damn shame that we've now almost certainly lost this
fantastic lane for good!!
I'd be very greatful if all those taking part could give me feedback with
their honest opinions of the day? Good points, bad points, was the day too
long, was the nature of the day what you expected, or better, or worse, etc.
Would you come along on any future trips? I can use the information to
improve the planning of any future trips.
For those that don't yet know, I managed to get Chas' LC started again just
after 8pm and I've heard that he then got home safely and without further
drama just after 10. He now just has to get it dried out again!!
I haven't heard from Renate yet but I'm assuming she got home OK?
My thanks to Adrian, Mark and John for pulling my Cruiser "back from the
brink" as it were!!
My thanks also to Ian for recovering Chas' crippled Cruiser back to
civilisation.
Andrew (not LC nor ELCO) blew a head gasket just outside Merthyr and was
unable to join us. I've heard that the RAC got him home OK.
Once again, many thanks to one and all.
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.

=======================================================================From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:45:43 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
pete
would be interested but - once bitten twice shy? the max is 5 vehicles and i
can't say yay or nay until nearer the event? so I'd probably be too late...
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 09:34
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: [ELCO] Another laning day?
I'm thinking of organising another green laning day later this year before
the RUPPs finally close in Wales. End of this month or early November.
I'm thinking maybe Strata Florida area. Strata Florida (West Wales) is a
fantastic and long lane with many water crossings, although they can get
quite deep after very wet weather so we'll have to plan accordingly nearer
the time. Lots of other lanes in the area at the moment. The trip will not
be as dramatic as last Sunday in terms of the terrain but the scenery in the
area is, if anything even more stunning.
As the days are getting short it will mean an early start and a
correspondingly early finish. I would aim to meet at Brecon around 8 a.m.
The trip will be limited to 6 vehicles (me + five others).
Who would, in principle, be up for it?
[Email address removed]
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
?
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
?
?

=======================================================================From: "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:50:10 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Pete
Crikey that was quick! you're pressuring me arn't you? (!)
Renate
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed]
[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Peter Browning
Sent: 17 October 2006 10:25
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
One place taken...
Four spaces left
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.

=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Sunday in BBNPA
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:27:51 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
I'm glad you got home OK Renate - I was beginning to be worried by your
silence! ;-)
To be fair though, I did put up links to a video and some pictures of the
Gap so that everyone at least had an idea of what to expect! ;-)
Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed it - we'll do some serious and more extreme
lanes next time for you!
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)
We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.
=======================================================================From: "Peter Browning" <[Email address removed]>
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Another laning day?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:30:50 +0100
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
Moi, pressurisez vous? Je ne r=EAverais pas de lui, pas une chance
mademoiselle!
Pete
1995 FZJ 80 Auto
[Email address removed] (email and MSN)

We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun
it.


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