Towing / flat bed

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I should know this, but I can=92t remember.

Can a dead cruiser be towed on a front-wheel lift for a short distance, say
2 miles? Or must it be a flat-bed?

Pete
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Don=92t know for certain, but if the rear propshaft were removed I can=92t see a
problem, if the center diff is unlocked would that be OK =96 don=92t know that
for certain either.

Side note =96 towing dollies seem to be a bit of a problem with legislation
currently =96 if I understand it correctly they aren=92t braked and the towing
weight with an unbraked is usally too low to allow anything but the smallest
vehicle to be recovered.

Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76

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Subject: [ELCO] Towing / flat bed

I should know this, but I can=92t remember.

Can a dead cruiser be towed on a front-wheel lift for a short distance, say
2 miles? Or must it be a flat-bed?

Pete

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Pete,
Is it auto? I think ok to tow anyway.
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Clive Marks
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Peter
Handbook says no emphatically. Either rear propshaft must be removed or
the rear wheels must be carried on some sort of dolly.
It goes on to say that the auto can be towed a short distance in an
emergency with all 4 wheels on the ground with the box in N and centre
diff unlocked.
I imagine the manual can be towed as far as you like with all 4 on the
road, limiting factor would be strength of driver's arms and legs!
Christopher Bell
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Sent: 24 May 2007 13:54
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Subject: [ELCO] Towing / flat bed
I should know this, but I can't remember.
Can a dead cruiser be towed on a front-wheel lift for a short distance,
say 2 miles? Or must it be a flat-bed?
Pete
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I=92m thinking more along the lines of a commercial recovery vehicle with a
front lift.

I have to get my LC with the blown head gasket to the local repairer
somehow.

Pete

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Subject: RE: [ELCO] Towing / flat bed

Don=92t know for certain, but if the rear propshaft were removed I can=92t see a
problem, if the center diff is unlocked would that be OK =96 don=92t know that
for certain either.

Side note =96 towing dollies seem to be a bit of a problem with legislation
currently =96 if I understand it correctly they aren=92t braked and the towing
weight with an unbraked is usally too low to allow anything but the smallest
vehicle to be recovered.

Malcolm Bagley
Stafford UK
FJ45 '75 & FJ45 '76

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Sent: 24 May 2007 14:54
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Subject: [ELCO] Towing / flat bed

I should know this, but I can=92t remember.

Can a dead cruiser be towed on a front-wheel lift for a short distance, say
2 miles? Or must it be a flat-bed?

Pete

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Yes it's auto
Pete
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Pete,
Is it auto? I think ok to tow anyway.
Regards,
Clive Marks
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Peter,
If your going to have the front of the car lifted and the rear wheels on the
road then you need to either a) find a recovery truck with an old fashioned
lift that leaves the front wheels free to turn, or b) remove either
propshaft, preferably the rear.
Failing to do this will cause you problems with your viscous coupling
overheating =96 this will also mean that the car will be trying hard to drive
itself off the spec lift or dolly, which might get exciting. If you have an
early 80 without a VC (no ABS) you might get away with it but keep the speed
right down and the transfer in neutral. You may still overheat the
transfer/centre diff.
It would probably be easier to just find a flat bed recovery truck to put
the whole car on, or have someone tow you there with all four wheels on the
road - this will be easier and less dramatic if you spend =A325 on a towing
pole rather than a rope.
Best of luck,
Toby
 
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On 24 May 2007, at 16:42, Toby Welburn wrote:
I hear this is one of the new tests on the next series of The World's Strongest Man - "Steering and Stopping a Landcruiser With No Brake
Servo or Power Steering"
Make sure you eat all your shredded wheat!
Neill Watson
 
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So an all four wheels on the ground tow for a couple of miles should be OK
then?
Pete
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On 24 May 2007, at 17:07, Peter Browning wrote:
Yes, but see my previous message. If you're going somewhere rural,
then it will probably be OK. But through a town, potentially
disastrous. You'll have no ability to make an emergency stop or
change direction quickly. When you turn a corner behind the tow car,
there's no self-centre steering, so you'll have to physically unwind
the steering lock to avoid it diving up the kerb.
Might be easier of a bar as opposed to a rope and if a rural area,
probably OK, but in a town, I'd be sweating.
Regards
Neill W
 
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Hi Pete
as long as I've heard no vehicle with auto gearbox can be towed on its four
wheels!!!!!!!!
Best regards
Lubo
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:13 PM
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Hi Pete
I dont have the manual with me cause my cruiser is away at the moment but im sure you can tow for a while on all four wheels .
I did a few times when my cruiser would break down.
CANT be towed on two wheels must be on all four.
But if you have not done this its a real effort for the driver of the cruiser so beware and tell the person towing to take it really easy.
It takes ages to stop with all your weight on the pedal and you could do with the terminators biseps.
Its much like when you are driving along in the cruiser and lose all power, its scary depending on where you are and whats infront or near you, but it can be done.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Hi All,
I was towed 5k's down a Welsh mountain (all four wheels on the ground) with
no obvious after effects, but it was a bit of a job steering & braking! Ian
Rubie will remember it well.
TTFN
Chas
London UK 1HDT 80 Safari snorkel, Custom Winch bumper and Rear bumper with
spare wheel carrier, home made drawer unit with built-in water tank
(well it will be there when I get it finished)
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Towing / flat bed
Hi Pete
I dont have the manual with me cause my cruiser is away at the moment but im
sure you can tow for a while on all four wheels .
I did a few times when my cruiser would break down.
CANT be towed on two wheels must be on all four.
But if you have not done this its a real effort for the driver of the
cruiser so beware and tell the person towing to take it really easy.
It takes ages to stop with all your weight on the pedal and you could do
with the terminators biseps.
Its much like when you are driving along in the cruiser and lose all power,
its scary depending on where you are and whats infront or near you, but it
can be done.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Hi Guys
Just wondering why or could it be done that if you lose power from the
engine could you or why did Toyota not do it, have power to the steering
pump and the brakes from the batteries.
O I have this feeling im putting my neck out there again with a silly
question but what the hell it has to be done.
thanks
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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John,
You can't because the steering and vacuum pumps are powered from the
engine. Making provisions to run these pumps from an electric motor
would required current supply from the battery. That wouldn't last
long because it would not be recharged - the alternator also needs
power from the engine.
In other words - it could require monumental over-engineering to achieve.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
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Just a comment:
The 100 has that monumental engineering.
The brake booster is electrical, just switch on ignition and after a few
secs you have full brake power.
Even after turning ign off, you can do 30+ full stops.
But the steering is even heavier, if possible.
--
Ugo Hu, Oslo, Norway
HDJ100 AHC 2001, ex HZJ80
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