Wagon Gear - 80 Series Tailgate Lids

Justin_Elliott Mar 20, 2012

  1. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    I've placed an initial enquiry mail with Kevin @ Wagon Gear regarding the possibility of a group buy for their 80 Series tailgate lids...

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    I'm awaiting feedback on costs (inc shipping)... but estimated to be IRO £250...

    So who's interested?
     
  2. Chas

    Chas Well-Known Member Supporter I am in england

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    At £250 I would be interested please. :thumbup:
     
  3. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Chas - noted

    Still waiting for Kevin @ Wagongear to respond - I'll leave it a few days then give him a call... :?

    Anyone else? :whistle:
     
  4. warrenpfo

    warrenpfo Well-Known Member

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    I have spoken to him in the past about a 100 lid and would also be interested if it comes with a discount :thumbup:
     
  5. Olazz

    Olazz Well-Known Member Supporter I am in zimbabwe

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    Yep, I'd be keen too.
     
  6. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Unless we get a [strike:1tc6qy3b]lot[/strike:1tc6qy3b] bit more interest the 'discount' is likely to be through shared postage... although as that's quite high, for 1's, it'll still be worth it.
     
  7. Ecoman

    Ecoman Well-Known Member I am in scotland

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    I'm interested :thumbup:
     
  8. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Overnight I received the following message:
    So the "saving" would be in combined postage.

    I'm still looking into the shipping costs (so no rash decisions anyone), but in a nutshell the numbers are starting to look something like this (assuming a $/£ rate of 1.65):

    For a one off (i.e. if we were to shop independently):
    Part Cost (inc Latches) {Based upon an 80's Lid} = $385
    Shipping (US+Int+Insurance) = $193 (for one)
    Import Duty (@4.5%) + VAT (@20%) = $146 :evil:
    Total $725 (Approx £440)

    For five off (i.e. shared shipping costs):
    Part Cost (based on 80 series) = $1925 ($385 ea)
    Shipping (US+Int+Insurance) = $595 (five off)
    Import Duty (@4.5%) + VAT (@20%) = ~$640 :evil:
    Sub Total $3160
    Cost: $632 (Approx £383 ea)

    Therefore an approximate saving of ~£56 ea.

    So the cost will be iro £320-£380 ea depending upon inter-US shipping costs (I forgot to add on the Import Duty / VAT before :roll:)

    I'm continuing to work on the different options and post some revised numbers shortly... but unless the qty's increase significantly, I doubt we'll see much improvement...

    J
     
  9. Gary Stockton

    Gary Stockton Super Moderator Supporter I am in zimbabwe

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    For shipping, you may want to investigate BundleBox, which seems quite effective
     
  10. Paul_Humphreys

    Paul_Humphreys Well-Known Member Supporter I am in uk

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    Just a thought, have a word with David at www.llama4x4.co.uk as he has containers shipped over from the states all the time. For a deal he might be able to have then put in one of his containers for less than the cost of shipping in other ways.

    Paul
     
  11. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Thanks for the help - I'll look into both of those...

    Edit: BundleBox - works out the cheapest so far.. Brings the unit cost down to ~£362.
     
  12. Olazz

    Olazz Well-Known Member Supporter I am in zimbabwe

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    Thanks for the update Justin.

    Initially at circa £250 I was in... It's approaching £400. That's a tad "heavy" for me for a little extra storage space.
     
  13. Chas

    Chas Well-Known Member Supporter I am in england

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    :think: I tend to agree. Still thinking about it though.
     
  14. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Yep... bit disappointed myself...

    If you take off the duty/VAT it would be £280 which is doable.. but as this adds 25% its a killer!
     
  15. Derek J

    Derek J Active Member

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    I can't do it straight away but I have the use of a CNC router and I intend to make my own set of panels and tailgate storage.

    I have sourced the same plastic Kevin uses locally, just have to get my finger out and find the latches.


    Mine will be for my 62 but I don't see a problem with doing some for an 80.
     
  16. Ecoman

    Ecoman Well-Known Member I am in scotland

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    As has already been said. I thought £250 was a bit salty as it was for a wee box in the tailgate, but thought it would make for a nice addition. I'm out of this one I'm afraid. :thumbdown:


    I would be interested t see what you can come up with Derek J. Don't forget to post up some pictures of the build. :thumbup:
     
  17. callum

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    if you have a bit of time and a welder, they're not too hard to make.

    I made one of my own, which in the end was a god thing as it turns out jdm tailgates have some extra reinforcement in them.

    http://www.landcruiserclub.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=10250&hilit=tailgate+heavy

    Time is the big killer, hence the wagongear ones being so pricey. That and the fact that kevin tends to use the very best in hardware for them.
     
  18. Chas

    Chas Well-Known Member Supporter I am in england

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    Justin, reading again your reply from Wagongear, I don't believe him, after all this is a business he runs selling amongst other things T-shirts and baseball caps, I don't think it's as small as he implies, he says "Even though I hate to admit it, there is no markup on the lids, they are already basically wholesale prices", well, believe that if you will :think: , "I only have a small 2 car garage" "I have worked with quite a few people on the international shipping and it has always been a costly pain in the butt" he's pleading for some sort of sympathy here :cry: , maybe I'm being too cynical but all this says to me is, this man is making a living out of people who want his products, fair enough, but reading between the lines I don't think we are on any sort of a bargain with this deal.
     
  19. Justin_Elliott

    Justin_Elliott Well-Known Member Supporter I am in great_britain

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    Callum - :thumbup: Looks good, but time is the killer for me.

    Chas: I'm coming to the same conclusion TBH.

    He seems to have sufficient back orders and new products to keep him fully occupied - So I agree it sounds like he's sitting happy, making enough to fund his hobbies / lifestyle- so why consider reducing his prices for a bulk order?

    Obviously frustrating, but while he's got a steady custom and people willing to pay for the quality and time saved etc... I can understand his point of view... I don't agree with it, but I can understand it.

    Also, whilst his prices are high (IMO), I'd pay them - as its a significant time saver and a high quality product. But add in the shipping cost and the import duty / VAT on top of the part cost (and shipping) and I agree its too much for that little bit of storage...

    So yep - I think we'll shelve this idea for the foreseeable...

    Derek - I'd be interested...
     
  20. karl webster

    karl webster Land Cruiser Club sponsor Promoted Company Guru Land Cruiser Club Promoted Company

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    I didnt voice my opinion at the begining but i thought it was quite expensive from the start. Each to there own though.If everyone had the same opinion about everything,life would be a boring place.

    I have had a tailgate cut out for a while now ready to get something made to stick in the hole but like most things they get started and not finished.

    If derek comes up with something then priced right i think that far more people would be interested in one.

    Karl

    PS. I agree with chas. The chap is running a business and the cost of these will be far less than offered. But there again thats the same with everything. We pay 2000 for a sofa for are front room that probably cost 300 to make.
     
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