WARM UP

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Denis
| Something has been done, and seems to work. I don't know how
| direct it would apply to our different applications, but it's
| probably worth a shot if you're finding the temperature
| indicator accuracy is an issue.
|
| http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=3D64252
I had no idea that someone had done that. The soldering looks easy, and
the dashboard dis/remantling looks horrible; so I think I'd go with a
separate gauge just for simplicity.
Really it is just idle interest on my part since, as we've already
established, I'm too chicken to venture into that particular roasting
dish!
But thanks anyway, it has gone into my "car archive" email folder.
CB
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Hi Christopher,
Pulling the dash apart only takes about five minutes on my old 80,
although not sure about your 'modern' one, but guess about the same.
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Julian Voelcker
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
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Hi Christopher,
Pulling the dash apart only takes about five minutes on my old 80,
although not sure about your 'modern' one, but guess about the same.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift

 

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Hey Gareth
Thanks for that but im not spending the amount they want to join it. Now you
know you should not have awoken those brain cells of mine just yet. They
were recovering from all the info I receivee on my electrics. Thanks again
to those who had the patience to help. Now this time ill blame Gareth for
all the questions that will stir in the electrods of my grey matter only
waiting to come forth and annoy the unlucly few.
Gareth tell me more about what you said about the temp of the engine. Ill
leave it to you to start and then ill jump in as usual with all the silly
questions.
You have me interested in this so I will want a degree in two weeks time.
Ok just one question just to start, I knew I couldn't let you start Ah I
feel the questions building up already.
If you block of the rad with the blind are you not decreasing the cooling
effect of the wind .
If this is the case do you not run the risk of the engine being hotter than
it should.
The cooler for the auto box is also in the rad what about the temps for the
auto box would they not also increase.
How much will the engine warm up by is all you have is the dash guage which
is only a guide.
What is the temp of the engine supposed to be at normal operatring temp.
Is the engine as you say over cooled because of the big rad or something
else.
If the neddle is at the middle as is normal than is the temp not at the
normal temp.
How much hassle is it to get to the heater rad somewhere at the back of the
dash and could a phyically impaired person with butter fingers work on this
rad.
What has the temp of the engine to do with the comtaminents in the oil.
Ok well maybe more than the one question but I had to get rid of them
Sorry.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland

 

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John,
Yes, that's the idea.
No, the cooling system will cope.
No, The auto box cooler is at the bottom, below the blind.
The engine will not be any warmer, it will just get there faster.
About 190 to 210.
The rad is big enough for places that are really hot.
Yes.
Lots, what do you want to do to it.
???
Regards, Clive.
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Hey Clive
That was too easy and too quick.
My heating as usual is not the best and last year when I said this there was
mention of a rad at the back of the dash that could be the problem. But I
cant remember what was discussed at that time. I never bothered to look at
it but one year on maybe I might with all the extra knowledge I have
obtained as well as the confidence.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] WARM UP
John,
Yes, that's the idea.
No, the cooling system will cope.
No, The auto box cooler is at the bottom, below the blind.
The engine will not be any warmer, it will just get there faster.
About 190 to 210.
The rad is big enough for places that are really hot.
Yes.
Lots, what do you want to do to it.
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Regards, Clive.
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OK,
You may still have the original coolant in there. If you have a
problem with the heater do the system first. We don't want to waste
any anti-freeze but you should change it so that you know it to be
good.
First drain the system. Then back flush it with clean water, try
to flush out the heater circuit as well as the engine one. Fill it up
with water only and give it a run for a few miles, or days, this is
difficult when we have freezing weather as you cant leave it outside
overnight. Then drain it again and if needed give it another flush in
both directions. You are trying to get it so that cleanish water comes
out. During this process see if your heater works any better. When you
are happy re-fill with proper coolant mix.
Regards, Clive.
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Clive
Heater circuit its coming back to me slowly, is that the two pipes close to
the fire wall. Would you just run a hose in there or would you have to take
the heater rad off /away/ or something else. I only changed the engine
coolant a while back twice.
john C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland

 

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Hi Clive
What do you think about a rad flush, if its possible to get one.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland

 

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John,
I've never used rad flush so I can't comment. You can try just
flushing the heater circuit with the two pipes that go through the
bulkhead, do it in both directions.
Regards, Clive.
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John, I am physching myself up for an in depth reply, but this will take a while.
Gareth.

 

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Chris,
I did c someone change out the 'temp' sensor with a more responsive sensor
on the ih8mud list
lal
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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 5:19 AM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] WARM UP
Peter
| Heater on mine is superb even in the coldest weather.
|
| The temp guage always hovers in the middle of the range no
| matter what the weather.
Mine too, on both points.
However Toyota have added "don't worry the user" logic to the
temperature gauge, so that it stays in the middle over a wide range of
engine temperatures, therefore it is not a good guide to actual
temperature.
In the days when our US brethren were more concerned with super-charging
their (petrol) machines to get more power, rather than with fuel economy
as now, there was much talk of adding instrumentation to give early
warning of overheating problems. As far as I know no one came up with a
solution to defeat the Toyota logic on the standard temp gauge.
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