Welcome new users and a couple of questions.

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Hi Julian
I found the list on Difflock.com, and as I'm considering swapping from a rangie to an amazon, I figured it would be a useful resource.
Basically I'm just not happy with the rangie's reliability, and its either purchase the Rovacom Lite (diagnostic software) and then fix all the rangies little idiosyncasies, or I bite the bullet and by an amazon.
I like the poke of the 4.6 in the rangie, but am seriously considering switching to diseasal so a couple of questions if I may:
what mpg do people get out of the 4.2 and 4.7 auto's ?
The motors in my price range seem to have a highish milage - is this an issue and what does a full service history add?
and the usual newby query - when looking at these motors, what should I be on the lookout for i.e.are there any known faults, (active suspension?)TIA
Strange John john.(with many sigs)[Email address removed]
2000 RR 4.6 HSE
West London
My Doctor suspects that I have bird flu, he doesn't know how I caught it, but suspects it may have something to do with the amount of Grouse I drink.
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I've noticed an increase in the number of new users subscribing over
the last few days so welcome to you all.
Out of interest how did you hear about the list?
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Hi John,
The 4.2 12 and 24 valve diesel engines are strong reliable engines if
you want more power you can add a intercooler from the netherlands, a
sport turbo, electric fuel pump, & low restriction exhaust system and
you will bump the power from 180Hp to 250-275Hp and torque will rise
fronm 285ftlb's to about 450ftlb's the exact number depend on boost and
how aggressively the engine is fueled. This improves 0-100 and
80-120km/h times by 4-5 seconds.
I get 28mpg on a long trip and 23-24 in stop start driving.
Regards,
Craig Vincent
HDJ80 VX LTD Auto, 11/96
Maartens transcooler, Sport turbo & intercooler, Rodney's Extreme II
Valvebody, 3.5" Flowmaster, Walbro 6065, Bilsteins, pyro, boost, pre &
post intercooler, & transtemp gauges
Christchurch,
New Zealand.
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Hi John,
I guess the key things to know before responding in more detail are:
Are you referring to the 100 series Amazon built from 1997- or the
earlier 80 series that was badged as Amazon between 1995-1997 - I'm
guessing the former?
What do you intend to use it for? (daily driver/towing/overlanding,
etc).
However, you can take it as read that the Landcruiser will be a hell of
a lot more reliable than the Rangie!
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Morning all
and thanks everyone for the replies, all interesting information, and most useful.
I'm looking at a 2000/2001 so I assume its a 100 series?
Would prefer Diseasel, for longevity as well as mpg, Mostly for the daily town commute, as if I'm gonna sit in traffic, I wanna do it in comfort. but occasional mild green laning (if its still allowed). No intentions of serious towing, but the ability to tow occasionally would be good.
talking of the daily commute, I've read that the mpg out of the 4.7 is approx 14, and the 4.2 around 18? if thats true, than I "may" be persuaded to go for a petrol motor.
I do around 12k a year, around 8/9 local with 3/4k on longish trips around the UK (SWMBO has discovered holidaying in the UK, sigh!)
I've gathered a lot of info from the Grosvenor Garage website - anyone used them for buying/servicing?
I tend not to do my own maintenance, mostly due to lack of time, but I have a small commercial garage nearby, who I know and trust.
and although the Rangie has been pretty good mechanically, the electrics and main stealer service have been a nightmare. (warantee work charged for, but not done, car returned scratched & with more faults than it went in for etc).
Oh well, I think that enough questions for today :)
Thanks again for all the replies, really good info from the horses mouth, so to speak.
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On 23/2/06 9:28 am, "John Strang" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
The 4.7 is a superb engine and sounds like a big block Chevvie when it's
revved through the gears. Economy is in direct relation to how you drive it.
Consider an LPG conversion.
I've known Mark Mitchell at Grosvenor for many years (since the late 80s in
fact) and he's a good guy. They charge more than others sometimes, but I can
tell you from experience that he also pays more to get to buy the right
vehicles.
Best regards,
Neill Watson
FJ62
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| I've known Mark Mitchell at Grosvenor for many years (since
| the late 80s in
| fact) and he's a good guy. They charge more than others
| sometimes, but I can tell you from experience that he also
| pays more to get to buy the right vehicles.
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| Best regards,
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| Neill Watson
That's where I got mine from. 100% honest, delivered down here (Devon)
on a sale or return basis, and was exactly what it said on the tin.
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Hi John,
From memory the auto diesel 100 series should do around 18-25mpg
depending on the type of driving.
As to whether to go for Petrol, Toyota are normally pretty good at
ensuring that the performance of the diesels is usually on a par with
the performance of the petrols, so consumption is the key issue.
Also, don't forget that the 100 has Independant Front Suspension so
whilst it would be fine for gentle green laning, you won't have the
articulation for the really rough stuff.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Julian,
On 2/23/06, Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Don't want to start the debate again... but weren't you one of the
defenders of IFS? ;-)
Cheers,
Fred
 
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Hah!
I seem to remember my fixed axle preference after desert and rough piste
travel was roundly pooh-poohed!
On 23/2/06 15:33, "Frederik Willems" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Hi Frederik,
(somehow I knew somebody would mention something about that!)
A 100 series with IFS is still and extremely capable machine, but as
pointed out in the 'discussion' it has it's drawback when you need the
benefits of major axle articulation, which sounds like the sort of
thing John is unlikely to encounter.
The original discussion was more centric to overlanding and I still
maintain that I would be happy to use a TLC with IFS - if the route is
getting so hairy that you miss the articulation I would be inclined to
turn around and go another route - trying to tackle it with a fully
loaded TLC with IFS or a FFA isn't sensible when overlanding where
problems can be life threatening and vehicle and self preservation are
key.
Obviously it isn't such an issue in the wilds of the UK where there is
help never too far away.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Jeremy,
No it wasn't ;-)
Enough of that, when are you going to get your act together and head out
this way?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hello guys,
On 2/23/06, Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]> wrote:
What's wrong with a good debate?
I know it sounds a bit perfidious from someone ho has lavished a lot
of time and effort on his landcruiser, but the further I travel
afield, the more I'm inclined to think that you don't have to drive a
fully speced, fully armoured and fully equipped vehicle and still have
lots of fun.
I am quite sure almost every route can be done in almost anything -
look at locals driving 30 year old Peugeots with awkwardly angled
wheels!
The choice of transport is, IMHO , usually down to
- effort:
do you want to go round obstacles or drive through them, and
do you want to struggle time and again or relax and admire the views?
- comfort: do you want to carry with you a tent the size of a hangar,
deluxe shower,a collection of your favourite pots, pans and saucers,
a jumbo size picnic set, 24 bottles of French wine, a change of new
clothes for each day (morning & afternoon), a manicure and makeup set
for your partner, a leather bound family photo album and a bedside
library set (no, I.m not joking, I saw it loaded at the back of a
4x4!), or just a few essentials, like fuel, a few cans of sardines and
a crate of beer?
And finally, if you find yourself in a life threatening situation,
trying not to run like a headless chicken seems to be more important
than the construction of the front axle.
OK, I'll take my coat ....
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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