Where to fit sand ladders?

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Hi,
I am planning to mount my sand ladders on the outside, there is no
more place on the roofrack (and don't want it there either), no place
in the interior, so it looks like the best option would be to mount
them on the sides of the cruiser.
When looking at others, it seems they always mount the plates high on
the side, just below the roofrack (like this:
http://home.tiscali.be/fvaneeckhaute02/images/koufra 04/SIMG1013.jpg
), but why?
I was thinking of mounting them lower, just above the rear wheel
arches. But I am wondering why nobody does it like that? Mounting them
low has the adventage of keeping the topweight down. Besides it is
much easier to take them off and mount them again on this height
(instead of having to lift the plates above your head).
Am I missing something? Is it just for the looks? I'd like to know
before I drill any holes ;-)
Would appreciate your input.
Cheers,
Fred
http://www.radiobaobab.be
 
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On 23/11/05 15:14, "Frederik Willems" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
We've just come back from a long trip to n Africa and I guess like everyone,
we carried sand ladders - ours were on the roof, mounted flat and sideways
across the roof as I cut the ladders to fit. And there they stayed. Didn't
use them on the trip and never have done. Compressor was used and shovels
too, but not the ladders. I've cleared the roof rack since getting back,
spare tyre in the shed, jerri cans down at the in-laws but the ladders are
still on the roof. Out of sight and out of mind. Most useful thing they did
was to keep the sun off the roof.
Just my opinion based on a few trips in north and east africa.
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
'93 HDJ81 with most of the usual suspects 'cept snorkel and plenty of dust
and sand still appearing in odd places.
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Hi Frederik,
Out of interest, would they slide under the roof rack, between the roof
rack and the roof.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Frederik,
Out of interest, would they slide under the roof rack, between the roof
rack and the roof.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Fred
Would it simply be an overall width thing? The LC is narrower at window
level, and I suppose there is an element of protection to the glass as
well.
Christopher Bell,
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT
| Hi,
|
| I am planning to mount my sand ladders on the outside, there
| is no more place on the roofrack (and don't want it there
| either), no place in the interior, so it looks like the best
| option would be to mount them on the sides of the cruiser.
|
| When looking at others, it seems they always mount the plates
| high on the side, just below the roofrack (like this:
| http://home.tiscali.be/fvaneeckhaute02/images/koufra 04/SIMG1013.jpg
| ), but why?
|
| I was thinking of mounting them lower, just above the rear
| wheel arches. But I am wondering why nobody does it like
| that? Mounting them low has the adventage of keeping the
| topweight down. Besides it is much easier to take them off
| and mount them again on this height (instead of having to
| lift the plates above your head).
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On 23/11/05, Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Actually, that was my first idea. But after mounting the roof
rack(frontrunner windcheetah) it was obvious there wasn't enough room
in betweeen the roofrack and the roof...
Besides, after driving around a bit with the rooftent fitted (57kg), I
am damn sure I want as little as possible on the roof!
Cheers,
Fred
http://www.radiobaobab.be
 
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On 23/11/05, Christopher Bell <[Email address removed]> wrote:
The protection of the glass could be a good explenation. Mine however
doesn't have the windows fitted so it's of no use for me.
Just to be complete:
- We're talking about a HZJ75
- I have the fibreflass kind of sandladders, not the iron ones, but
that shouldn't be of any importance :)
Cheers,
Fred
http://www.radiobaobab.be
 
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Jeremy,
I have heard this before (of not bothering to use the ladders). I have
no hands-on experiences on using them in the sand, but I use them
often in the mud. I call them "diff locks for poor people".
But I can fully understand the point of fitting them somewhere out of
sight/mind... that's why I would like them on the sides..
Cheers,
Frederik
 
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Hi Frederik,
As for mounting them outside - if they are on the lower side of the
bodywork they will definitely stick outside the vehicle profile. If
you want to drive like this to reach your African destination, you
will violate traffic reglations in all the European countries along
your way.
You may always consider some other options to avoid the dillema of
where to fit the ladders:
- cut the ladders into short sections joined by flexible links. They
will fold down into a manageable package and can be carried inside;
- get one of those traction aides sold in ZA (rubber blocks joined
with a steel cable that looks like an actal rope ladder). It can also
be rolled into a bundle and stored inside.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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On the sides is very, very visible. It wasn't a question of not bothering to
use them... The best way to get out is to lower tyre pressures and/or dig.
Never used them in mud.
Chacun a son gout as they say in France.
On 23/11/05 16:17, "Frederik Willems" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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I=B9ll join you in the dumping ceremony, if you get my drift...
On 23/11/05 19:37, "jeff watts" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> i agree with yu entirely.carried them everywhere nevr used them...have i
> enough nerve to dump em???
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> jeff watts
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Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Hello guys,
Isn't it so that you don't use them because taking them off and
putting them back is too much hassle? Would you still not use them if
it took 30 sec. to have them out and another 30 sec. to put them back?
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Short answer is no. Doing most things in extreme heat and after a long drive
is a hassle so getting ladders out and down ready to use would be just
another thing. If I had to use them, wherever they were mounted, I would use
them. But in all situations I have been in, tyre pressures and digging (best
shovel is the German army folding shovel as you can angle it at at 90
degrees) has worked best.
If someone can show me a system for mounting them that really does take only
30 secs to remove both and 30 secs to replace both I would be interested but
I'll probably leave mine on their mount across the Patriot roof rack.
We did use one as a bench supported by two wolf boxes, with various items of
clothing as padding.
Jeremy
On 23/11/05 23:20, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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On 11/23/05, Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]> wrote:
nly
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Jeremy,
I'll show you a "system" on Sunday.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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On 24/11/05, Roman <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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Could you be so kind to take pictures of it? :) I'm very interested as well...
You guys have giving me too much information now... now I'm completely
undecided on where to put those damn plates! ;-)
Thanks for all the feedback btw!
Cheers,
Fred
http://www.radiobaobab.be
 
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On 11/24/05, Frederik Willems <[Email address removed]> wrote:
ell...
Frederik,
I will, in a couple of days, as soon as I start kitting out the LC for the trip.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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i've got 2 x 1.2m aluminum sand ladders and i had a couple of alu hooks made
up which i riveted onto the sides of my vehicle using special marine rivets.
when i'm on safari the ladders usually sit over my two, large, windows
behind the rear passenger seat. apart from being handy for when you need
them, they are great at protecting these windows from getting the seals slit
or from getting stove in as in town i use a small chain and padlock to
secure them...in the bush there is no need and it takes seconds to lift the
off and on again.
never had to use them in sand but a few times in mud - a filthy business but
they worked. i also tried using some similar ones as a bridging ladder over
some rocky parts of a dry river bed once but they bent like buggery. apart
from that they do make a handy, but slightly wobbly, table when balanced on
a couple of jerrys.
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