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It was tough growing up

Rich it was a thick walled mercury tube about a metre long. I could not believe what I had seen.
 
Rich it was a thick walled mercury tube about a metre long. I could not believe what I had seen.
Unbelievable on many levels Frank.
Not to mention the damage the spilled mercury could do. Or the broken glass.

Today of course the pendulum has swung too far the other way. The lunatics are running the asylum and teachers would be (rightly) locked up for such extremes. Alas the fear is that the teachers will be punished for as little as touching a pupil.
 
Unbelievable on many levels Frank.
Not to mention the damage the spilled mercury could do. Or the broken glass.

Today of course the pendulum has swung too far the other way. The lunatics are running the asylum and teachers would be (rightly) locked up for such extremes. Alas the fear is that the teachers will be punished for as little as touching a pupil.
yep, these days it's the adults that are scared of the kids
 
And so its the parents job . Personally i'd rather go to prison for hitting my kid than have my kid wind up in prison because i didn't .

Alas we now have kids that didn’t care and expected someone else to sort the problems that are now parents with the same attitude.

Strict and fair seems to be what works best but there’s no one size fits all that I can see. We’re all different.
 
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Our Latin master would do that with the hairs just in front of the ear.

Our 'Afrikaans' master used to do the 'sideburns' thing raising us up on tiptoes... while our Latin master specialised in flicking a small hard cover version of 'Caesar : Gallic War' with unfailingly & unerringly accurate aim directly at a miscreant's head, seemingly without even looking up so the missile arrived entirely without warning!!!

Apparently these corrective's are no longer allowed in schools today... :grinning::tearsofjoy:
 
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I remember when I went off to boarding school and my dad told the headmaster that if I step out of line that they had full permission to hit the shit out of me.
I must have been one of the lucky once where we were only canned when we were naughty and well that was most of the times. The few memories that stuck was getting lashed 4 times for being caught smoking in the boiler room where the teacher gave us a choice of what to get canned with, the inexperienced always went for the wooden plank where us more experienced went for a bendy thin canes.
There was an understanding between the kids and the teachers that if you are caught stepping out of line your bum is going to burn for a while. The good thing was that when you were caught, you got punished for it and that was it. It never got dragged on and on.
 
......There was an understanding between the kids and the teachers that if you are caught stepping out of line your bum is going to burn for a while. The good thing was that when you were caught, you got punished for it and that was it. It never got dragged on and on.


exactly!!!
 
More's the pity, it might make the yoof of today more civilised.

Ahhhh and yet..... "children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannise their teachers!"

Socrates,
I believe... circa 450 BC... so really, nothings changed in almost 2500 years hahaha!! :grinning::grinning::grinning:
 
I can’t condone violence on kids, but my father only ever slapped us kids on the back of our legs if we ever got way out of line, and I never felt I didn’t deserve it.

IMO, violence is something different from that. Kids in my class used to turn up to school with black eyes and suchlike, after having a beating from their fathers, with a belt or fists, and that just ain’t on in my book.

Just my father’s raised voice was enough punishment for me, it was a rare occasion when he did, and the emotional effect on me was extreme.

Maybe he and I were both lucky, but he raised the 3 of us the same with no real bother. I guess with a family of 6 unruly boys, things might have been different.

Who am I to judge? I only have 1 kid, a girl, and she’s pretty close to being an angel 99% of the time.

Time will tell I guess...
 
Clive, totally agree... but a world of difference between occasional firm correction (not as default instinct) and abusive or violent punishment.... sometimes there just isn't time to sit a child down down and explain, like if a 6 year old starts to run out into the road... a sharp smack can save his life and embed the lesson... is not that one wishes to hurt your child, quite the opposite but sometimes it may simply be the lesser evil... and 99% of parents instinctively understand that...

But I suspect this thread is for us chaps who enjoy a little black humour... is ok to go down with the ship if you're going down in company and make a black joke of it, same outside the housemaster's study on a Friday afternoon... deffo didn't want to be there alone.. and we all love to reminisce about we had it tougher, rougher and less cosseted... when in truth our parents were saying the same things about us... haha
 
Yet there are, still, a huge amount of good kids along with the minority of bad.
What you say is true, but I can't help but notice a certain lack of respect for others. I don't expect them to kow tow to me but to try and avoid bumping into me on the pavement would be appreciated.
When kids get released from school there tends to be bunches of them crowding the pavements with no thought for anybody but themselves.
A few lessons at school on respect for others would maybe help.
 
Having grown up in an atmosphere of fairly continuous violence, both at home and at school, I was determined not to do the same with my kids.
My step son, who joined me when he was 7, I have never had to smack. Just talking to him calmly and letting him know I am disappointed is enough.
Lizzie has been smacked just once when she threw a stone at her cousins head, then declined to come and face the consequences when her mother shouted to her, she got a swift one on the backside from me for that once I caught her, but I think it was knowing she'd really messed up, that upset her more than any pain from the smack.
We have discipline at home. Just things like limited screen and technology time, not answering back, doing as your told, please and thankyou, the usual stuff. There are parameters, and they know if they exceed them what the consequences will be, I try and be consistent and work to clear boundaries.
So far, with David now 18 and Lizzie 8, it seems to have worked
 
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