80 Series 12v Starter recomendations? (for a 24-12v convesrion)

[DandyLandy]

I've been reading some of the 12v starter threads on here but can't seem to find where I can purchase the correct 12v starter motor. Does anyone have any recomendations for the UK?
Is it best to get a standard one to fit a 100 series or does anyone know if it's worth looking at something from Terrain Tamer or anything like that?

Thanks in advance,

Andy

 

[AndycruiserguyLomas]

The 100 series isn't the one to use, for what reason I'm not sure.
I don't know if all 80 series all over the world are 24V start, I wouldn't imagine they are in warmer climes.

 

[Lorin]

You need this one 190.573.122.050 : [STR70101] Starter Toyota 2.5 kw - [Leaving Land Cruiser Club]

 

[Rodger]

Hi Andy,

@Dave2000 has done this conversion and has threads on it, what you'll need, how to do it, etc..
His conversion has worked , reliably, for years.
Be patient, he'll be along soon!

Regards,

Rodger

 

[essexpete]

Why change from the 24v?

 

[yogi]

Removes the need for 2 batteries. Also creates a handy space for a leisure battery.

 

[frank rabbets]

I run my 12 volt setup with 2 original batteries in situ. I only use 1 at a time by disconnecting the other. I alternate them to keep them charged. I therefore have a spare in situ if one fails.

 

[DandyLandy]

You need this one 190.573.122.050 : [STR70101] Starter Toyota 2.5 kw - [Leaving Land Cruiser Club]

Thanks Lorin, I'll get in touch with them.

 

[DandyLandy]

Hi Andy,

@Dave2000 has done this conversion and has threads on it, what you'll need, how to do it, etc..
His conversion has worked , reliably, for years.
Be patient, he'll be along soon!

Regards,

Rodger

Thanks Rodger, waiting patiently.Removes the need for 2 batteries. Also creates a handy space for a leisure battery.
Agreed.

I run my 12 volt setup with 2 original batteries in situ. I only use 1 at a time by disconnecting the other. I alternate them to keep them charged. I therefore have a spare in situ if one fails.

Hi frank, I'm doing a similar thing but replacing one with a self heating litium battery to run fridge and accessorries

 

[Lorin]

Dave did indeed convert to 12v starter from a 100 series but it is not a straight swap as there are a different number of teeth on the cog which needs sorting. The starter I linked above is a straight swap. It is the one that I and many others have used to convert from 24 to 12v start.

This is a great guide for the conversion process 12 volt starting conversion on a 1997 24 valve manual 80 series LandCruiser - [Leaving Land Cruiser Club]

Before you spend any money I’d suggest taking a look at this How to start a 24v HDJ81 with 12v video - [Leaving Land Cruiser Club] It seems it may be possible to simply retain the 24v starter…… If I hadn’t already done the conversion I would have tried this first and if it worked, simply converted wiring for 12v feed.

 

[felix2566]

Bit of a thread resurrection,
I am also wanting to convert one of my batteries to become a leasure battery.

Is there not a way of keeping the 24v start and having one of the batteries as house and the other as engine/vehicle electrics?

thinking out loud, I'm guessing if the house battery is totally flattened then your in trouble, unless the above mod is followed to start using 12v on the 24v starter.

Or is it just adding complication, from what I have read the 24v start is more aimed at starting in cold climates, which we dont really have much of over here.

So losing this capacity by moving to 12v is not really an issue?

 

[Towpack]

Also thinking out loud here, if you fitted a HD relay (12v), operated with the ignition on, in the cable that "links" the two batteries it would still give 24v to the starter, both batteries would be linked and hence charged when the engine is running but separated when the engine is switched off. It would of course just add more complexity which is one reason given for converting 24v start to 12v.

 

[felix2566]

Yes, complexity is not what I want to add to the vehicle. Thats the joy of them and why we like them I guess.

Maybe will just have to convert to 12v starter and be done with it.

Seems a bit silly to carry around a 3rd battery as the house battery when 1 is more than enough to start the car.
I'm not intending to have any big consumers running off the house battery so dont think I'll need something bigger than the 2nd one I already have.

 

[Towpack]

I've never had any issues with the 24v start setup other than flat batteries which would have had the same effect on a12v starter. I have a third battery in the back for radio use but then I'm not into camping or overlanding so don't carry fridges etc around.
No doubt this post has put the kybosh on that!