Miro
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Greetings,
A problem I've been trying to sort out for some time now, is a noticeable white-grayish smoke out of the exhaust, with a smell of unburnt diesel. The smoke is noticeable while the engine is still cold (for the first few minutes of driving) and primarily while idling. With the engine getting warmer the smoke is less and less, sometimes completely gone (even at idling rpms).
In an attempt to sort this out so far, about three months ago (around 1, 500 km since) I have had my injectors removed and cleaned by a reputable local shop, specialized in refurbishing injectors and IPs. They did knew those injectors are a two stage ones. Their feedback was that the opening pressures of the injectors were a little below the specifications and they did the necessary adjustments. Apart from that, the nozzle tips evidently did need some cleaning and this was done (ultrasonically) as well.
During the above, I asked the technician who did the removal of the injectors (that was in another shop), to measure the engine's compression (although it is not accurate when the engine is cold), and see if there is any noticeable difference between the cylinders. Although I am not very confident of the accuracy of his measurements, he said that on the 2nd and 3rd cylinder the compression was about 1 bar less then the others, which he measured to be around (20 bars). Interesting thing about this is that the engine starts fine, even when fully warmed up (which is when a compression issues are most noticeable from what I know).
Anyway, the injectors were then fitted back, with all the necessary replacement parts, most notably with new (OEM) injector seats. Also, the valves clearance was checked / re-adjusted during this.
And this all had the desired effect... for some time, anyway. The white-grayish smoke (and the shaking at idling) was completely gone. For about a month, all was great, until I had to take the cruiser for a long (4 hours) highway trip. When I got back - to my unpleasant surprise, the truck was smoking again at idle despite the fact it was fully warmed up at the time
Currently, the shaking at idling is mostly gone, noticeable only occasionally during the first minute after starting the truck in the morning. The smoking problem is also accompanied by occasional loss of power.
Also, something relevant is the EGR. While the smoke was gone after the injectors repair, I was able to consistently hear the EGR doing it's job. By hear, I mean a ticking sound from the egr when it opens / closes, at idle and during driving. Not sure if such sound is expected / normal though. Currently the ticking sound from the EGR is sporadic; from time to time. I tested all solenoid and vacuum hoses which control the EGR. They are all good. The solenoids hold and release vacuum (when powered) perfectly.
I got the cruiser about ten months ago, and immediately had it serviced; replaced all filters and fluids. I also had the local Toyota dealer to inspect the truck and diagnose the smoke problem. Long story short - they did not find anything faulty. No fault codes. This was done before the injectors removal. Based on their experience, every component that may be causing the smoke and which they can test, is working normal. What they could not test were the injectors.
So my next suspects in trying to sort this out are the MAF sensor and possibly - the injection pump (although from what I know the IP either works or does not; no inbetweens).
Any thoughts, suggestions or corrections on the direction in diagnosing this problem would be greatly appreciated.
A problem I've been trying to sort out for some time now, is a noticeable white-grayish smoke out of the exhaust, with a smell of unburnt diesel. The smoke is noticeable while the engine is still cold (for the first few minutes of driving) and primarily while idling. With the engine getting warmer the smoke is less and less, sometimes completely gone (even at idling rpms).
In an attempt to sort this out so far, about three months ago (around 1, 500 km since) I have had my injectors removed and cleaned by a reputable local shop, specialized in refurbishing injectors and IPs. They did knew those injectors are a two stage ones. Their feedback was that the opening pressures of the injectors were a little below the specifications and they did the necessary adjustments. Apart from that, the nozzle tips evidently did need some cleaning and this was done (ultrasonically) as well.
During the above, I asked the technician who did the removal of the injectors (that was in another shop), to measure the engine's compression (although it is not accurate when the engine is cold), and see if there is any noticeable difference between the cylinders. Although I am not very confident of the accuracy of his measurements, he said that on the 2nd and 3rd cylinder the compression was about 1 bar less then the others, which he measured to be around (20 bars). Interesting thing about this is that the engine starts fine, even when fully warmed up (which is when a compression issues are most noticeable from what I know).
Anyway, the injectors were then fitted back, with all the necessary replacement parts, most notably with new (OEM) injector seats. Also, the valves clearance was checked / re-adjusted during this.
And this all had the desired effect... for some time, anyway. The white-grayish smoke (and the shaking at idling) was completely gone. For about a month, all was great, until I had to take the cruiser for a long (4 hours) highway trip. When I got back - to my unpleasant surprise, the truck was smoking again at idle despite the fact it was fully warmed up at the time

Currently, the shaking at idling is mostly gone, noticeable only occasionally during the first minute after starting the truck in the morning. The smoking problem is also accompanied by occasional loss of power.
Also, something relevant is the EGR. While the smoke was gone after the injectors repair, I was able to consistently hear the EGR doing it's job. By hear, I mean a ticking sound from the egr when it opens / closes, at idle and during driving. Not sure if such sound is expected / normal though. Currently the ticking sound from the EGR is sporadic; from time to time. I tested all solenoid and vacuum hoses which control the EGR. They are all good. The solenoids hold and release vacuum (when powered) perfectly.
I got the cruiser about ten months ago, and immediately had it serviced; replaced all filters and fluids. I also had the local Toyota dealer to inspect the truck and diagnose the smoke problem. Long story short - they did not find anything faulty. No fault codes. This was done before the injectors removal. Based on their experience, every component that may be causing the smoke and which they can test, is working normal. What they could not test were the injectors.
So my next suspects in trying to sort this out are the MAF sensor and possibly - the injection pump (although from what I know the IP either works or does not; no inbetweens).
Any thoughts, suggestions or corrections on the direction in diagnosing this problem would be greatly appreciated.