BEBs and other questions

Ecoman

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I'm currently looking for an 80 series and I'm wanting to find suppliers for some bits before I make my decision on which one to buy.

Does anyone know where I can get ACL big end bearings?

Also where can I get graphogen?

Oh and what oil do you recommend I fill the lump with? I have heard that the life of the bearings can really depend on a specific grade and compound of oil rather than just filling with a high quality multigrade.

If I decide to get the work done before I drive it home how much money do you think I should set aside? Can anyone recommend garages up and down the country. I tend to take all my trucks to Jim King Autotune just outside Inverurie but if I intend to get the work done down in England before I bring it home then recommendations would be useful.

Does anyone have any recommended parts suppliers or specialist stockists? I could list loads for my Hilux but I've had that for a few years now and compiled a decent list for it. However the said suppliers tend to sell limited spares for the LCs.

All help greatly appreciated so thanks in advance.
 

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I have a load coming mate,acl duraglide stds bearings. I sell second hand parts aswell. 07968389167 if you ever want to try me.
thanks karl
 

Dave Burgess

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Try Julian Voelcker for the bearings though they're in short supply (he has supplier in Romford Essex who are the importers - but they were out too recently)

Not sure about Graphogen, but I used Redline Assembly Lube when I did mine from Opie Oils (see the vendors section).

I have been using the Cheapest 'Good Quality oil' I can get. Halfords had a deal on Fully Synth 10000 miles ago, last lot was Castrol Magnetec 10W40 Diesel Semi from Opie (on special), and my local Toy dealer is doing Toyo 5W30 Fully Synth for £53 inc for 10litre and 10% of all parts bought at the same time :clap: , so shop around a bit.

BEB took me a day all told, so budget for that. You could drive it home and be fine for 20000miles, but you'll not likely know... Your call and will probably depend on the condition of the truck overall and where you get it.

Spares can be had at Toyo dealers (der... :doh: ) Milners, Ebay and a few others, but there is advice on here too.
 
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Ecoman

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Nice one. Sounds like I'm gonna be sending you some drinking vouchers for bearings then :lol:

Thanks for the advice guys. I have just bought some Graphogen off fleabay so one item ticked off the list. I have a couple of good oil suppliers so I don't tend to go to Halfrauds for stuff like that. I have an Opie oils account too so not at a loss for lube...lets face it you can never have too much lube :p
 

Dave Burgess

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Bat21 said:
Dave Burgess said:
....and my local Toy dealer is doing Toyo 5W30 Fully Synth
5W30 :o

That stuff must be like
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Is it for use only in Siberia?
I questioned that at the dealer and he said that 5W30 is what they are putting in everything at factory recommendation, in fact, he said were I to have the bottomless wallet required and get my 16 year old diesel serviced there, it would have that oil put in it by them. I don't think I agree, but it is cheap good oil!
 

Andy Harvey

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Beware of one little thing if you make the change to Fully Synth oil. It often doesn't happen but on a high mileage engine the fully synth will give it a good clean out and it may well end up smoking like a goodun. Fully Synth can also sometimes expose old seals and the engine could end up pissing oil out like a Land Rover. Fully Synth is good from the factory if the engine has always had it, however a lot of older engine rely on built up cruddy oil deposits to keep oil bruning down (acts like another seal) and old seals will be covered with a thick film of gloopy oil which stops them from leaking. Fully Synth with all the cleaning properties it has will remove all of that and expose some limitations of the older engine. I've always believed ever since working in a garage that using good old Mineral oil or at most semi synth is better for an old engine, also unless you are having problems starting then going to a thinner oil in the engine's middle and later years is not a good idea. That being said I wouldn't go so far as the good old 20/50 oil we used to use to keep Cortina's and Escorts from sounding like a bucket of stones. 15W40 or 10W40 is besy I think for a Land Cruiser Lump. Just make sure you keep the engine oil changed frequently. The advantage of Fully Synth is it can go on for a lot longer between changes but then I think a regular oil change is a good way of getting to know your engine, see any lumps of crud in the oil, smell the oil etc. Better to use a cheaper oil and change oil every 5-6K miles rather than blow 3 times the amount on a fully synth and change it at 15K miles.

Just my Opinion Though.
 

Dave Burgess

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I'm with you two, 5w30 is too thin for a big old diesel like the LC 4.2 but it what Toyota is currently doing. I would also agree with doing the oil changing yourself to get to know the truck and I do all my servicing myself (mainly for cost reasons). I have started using Opie as seen on this site and their range is very comprehensive and quite reasonable with good advice. :clap:
 

Brett

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I've actually used the Toyota 5w/30 oilf for the last 2 services because I got such a good deal on it.

Prior to that I used 15w/40 & after about the 3rd oil change (since I've owned it) I noticed the dreaded HD series ticking noise.

On the 5W/30 it doesn't tick at all :?
 

Ecoman

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Ok so I now have an 80 series.

Turns out Julian V has already replaced the BEBs with ACL bearings a few months ago so that has saved me a lot of hassle. The last owner says he had all the oils changed at the same time. However, as a rule of thumb and for my own piece of mind, I want to replace them all again.

What would be the best oil to use? There have been a few conflicting opinions on this thread as to the best oils to use. Personally I won't be using the thinner (5w)synthetic oils. I know they are good but its an old style engine and its clocked up a few miles now so tolerances wont be as tight. I don't even use them in my Hilux and thats a 2001. I will probably opt for a thicker synthetic or semi synth. I don't believe in putting in cheap oil. Lets face it you only get what you pay for.

I read somewhere to avoid api graded oils in the Toyota 4.2TD engines? Not sure why but can someone shed some light on this please?
 

Ecoman

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Ecoman said:
I read somewhere to avoid api graded oils in the Toyota 4.2TD engines? Not sure why but can someone shed some light on this please?
Just ignore this. I just googled API and it stands for "American Petroleum Institute". They were set up to establish oil speification standards so not a type of additive as I first thought :oops: :lol:
 
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