clicking CV's/Birfields

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I have had clicking Birfields for over 3 yrs now.
Only click while on nearly full lock and in low (aka 4x4ing)
Gotten worse when I decided that a little bit of "smoothing out" was needed
on the last CV rebuild. So much for my mechanical skills.
I carry a spare set when out in the boonies playing around but will likely
replace on my next major service a be done with it.
So they can go a long time.
Have pics somewhere if anyone is interested. Its the inner star and
encompassing cage. The balls themselves are fine.
Lal in Colorado with 130K on 1996 US petrol TLC.
Looking fwd to some cool winter weather :)
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[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Simon Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:58 AM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Injectors
Hi All
Put 500 miles on the new injectors and the verdict? Pointless exercise
as the car is using more diesel, is less powerful than before and still
lumpy idle when cold. The injector shop are taking the car back in to
fix a leaky injector and I will get them to rebuild the IP and
completely re do the injectors again.
Also, like Chris, my Birfields are clonking more and more now,
particularly most noticeably going up or down steep bends or over rough
surfaces so I will get the bits from Milners on order and sort it out.
One rear shock is gone and now the fronts are clunking too so I am going
to do the OME at the same time. God August is going to be expensive.
I have ordered new seals from Milner even though I changed them a year
ago I think it is good insurance to replace them at the same time as the
Birfields. Interestingly I damaged the Toyota one and had to use the
Milners instead on the drivers side and that is the one is now has a
slight leak!
All the best
Simon Hughes
94 TLC 4.2 TD and not happy at all
www.stratasearch.co.uk
Tel: 020 7549 3663
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Brendan
| I have had clicking Birfields for over 3 yrs now.
| Only click while on nearly full lock and in low (aka 4x4ing)
| Gotten worse when I decided that a little bit of "smoothing
| out" was needed on the last CV rebuild. So much for my
| mechanical skills.
| I carry a spare set when out in the boonies playing around
| but will likely replace on my next major service a be done with it.
|
| So they can go a long time.
| Have pics somewhere if anyone is interested. Its the inner
| star and encompassing cage. The balls themselves are fine.
You are both braver and more competent than I am. While near Hochgurgl
(seriously, near the Italian/Austrian border, and not to be confused
with Obergurgl, in which we got lost), umpteen miles from anywhere and
at 2600m altitude, I was listening to them clonking as we rounded each
hairpin and thinking "this would NOT be a good place in which to break
down".
I'd rather take the wear on the wallet than on the nerves!
But it's reassuring to know that they can go on despite the noise.
Christopher Bell
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Hi Lal
You are lucky with the CVs no dought.
Mine decided to go and I have to say without any warning at all of any kind
while in the middle of the Wicklow mountains at a place called Glendolough
which im sure you know is in the middle of know where.
No clucking or any noise just reversed out of a car park onto the main
narrow road and then it stopped dead and would not move on again.
Needed a tow home all of four hours later after waiting six hours for the
tow truck to reach me.
The cause was the splines on the Cv had worn away and there was no contact
between the CV and the inner axle.
So now I know if one CV goes even on a full time four wheel drive, you dont
move anywhere and its no use kicking the cruiser that doesn't work and only
results in sore toes.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Hi John,
The trick there is to disconnect the front prop shaft and then engage the
centre diff lock turning the car into a 2WD ;-)
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Bummer on the towing etc.
I had 2 get towed recently when my tire blew on hwy and couldn't get my lock
nuts off (gone in bin now!) after 2 week trip. Thankfully only an hour from
home but no fun stuck on motorway with kids on the side.
With Center Diff Lock switch (CDL) and lockable hubs on the front (I changed
awhile back) I "should" b able 2 drive home if one does break. On the trail
may b a different matter.
Seen guys that take it apart - take all the bad bits out - stuff in a rag
and then (as above) drive home.
At least most of the time it should get u out of the trail.
I run with single propshaft, CDL, free hubs on most day 2 day driving and
gain 2-4 mpg depending on what kind of driving I'm doing. Helps with petrol
prices increasing over time (still cheap compared to UK/IRL). However will
check propane prices again once petrol hits $3/US gallon.
Lal in Colorado
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[mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of John Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:14 PM
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] re: clicking CV's/Birfields
Hi Lal
You are lucky with the CVs no dought.
Mine decided to go and I have to say without any warning at all of any kind
while in the middle of the Wicklow mountains at a place called Glendolough
which im sure you know is in the middle of know where.
No clucking or any noise just reversed out of a car park onto the main
narrow road and then it stopped dead and would not move on again.
Needed a tow home all of four hours later after waiting six hours for the
tow truck to reach me.
The cause was the splines on the Cv had worn away and there was no contact
between the CV and the inner axle.
So now I know if one CV goes even on a full time four wheel drive, you dont
move anywhere and its no use kicking the cruiser that doesn't work and only
results in sore toes.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Hey Julian
You will just have to show me how to do that then with the prop shaft.
So now all i need to carry with me is two CVs all the tools, and grease, and
seals and or the know how of disconecting the front prop shaft. Now im
thinking.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Hi john
I think perhaps you could've saved yourself a long wait by locking the
central (transfer case) diff lock ;-)
The problem you experienced was that all the power went to the axle with
no traction (i.e. the front axle). By locking the central diff, you
should have been able to limp home in rear wheel drive. Probably would
not have done what was left of the splines any good though...
paul
HJ75 Troopie 1HZ
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of John Byrne
Sent: woensdag 9 augustus 2006 20:14
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] re: clicking CV's/Birfields
Hi Lal
You are lucky with the CVs no dought.
Mine decided to go and I have to say without any warning at all of any
kind while in the middle of the Wicklow mountains at a place called
Glendolough which im sure you know is in the middle of know where.
No clucking or any noise just reversed out of a car park onto the main
narrow road and then it stopped dead and would not move on again.
Needed a tow home all of four hours later after waiting six hours for
the tow truck to reach me.
The cause was the splines on the Cv had worn away and there was no
contact between the CV and the inner axle.
So now I know if one CV goes even on a full time four wheel drive, you
dont move anywhere and its no use kicking the cruiser that doesn't work
and only results in sore toes.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
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Hi Paul
Thanks for that piece of info. As far as I remember I tried to engage the
centre diff but it would not engage.
Maybe I did something wrong in the set up to engage the centre diff in the
panic to get off the only access road, and it was four years ago.
So is it that simple if your CV goes (Just to engage the centre diff and
away you go)
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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