Engine wear when cold

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Julian - Will the cruiser fit in the garage ? I keep mine in the garage which never drops below 15 celsius, we keep the deep freeze in here, they chuck out a lot of heat; the garage is well insulated and adjoins the side of the house. Thus when its cold outside the cruiser is a lot warmer. I also use a dehumidier in the garage.If your garage is full of junk - sorry stuff that will come in handy one day - and you cannot get the cruiser in - then its off to the tip or flog on E-BAY. With the money raised take the lady wife out and after a few drinks and a good meal how could she refuse your request to reclaim the garage !!
If plan A fails, and your left out in the cold - try a block heater.
Gareth Jones.
 
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Is there anything specific that can be done to protect against engine
wear from hard driving when the engine is cold?
I live about 800 yards from a major dual carriageway/highway that I
always use whenever I am going anywhere.
The traffic generally flows at around 70-75mph and first thing in the
morning, you have to be really quick to get on when there is a gap -
the slower the vehicle the harder it is to get on.
Of course all this occurs when the engine is still pretty cold.
Apart from using a decent engine oil (any good recommendations?) And
maybe trying to warm the engine up beforehand (it takes a long time
with the fixed fan on an 80), do you have any other suggestions?
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Julian Voelcker
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
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Hi Listers
An Webasto.
http://www.webasto.co.uk/am/en/am_automobile_3177.html
Since my 80 was imported from Germany it came with some bonus: rust, webasto...
I only use it in winter. Wenever we get below 10 deg C in Lisbon I programe it to start 20 minutes before needed and voila 90 deg C at startup. BTW it feeds himself on diesel.
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Julian,
Probably some. By heating up coolant they theoretically improve oil viscosity
in the engine block, which means you start as if part of the engine has been
running all the time. The other parts that coolant won't reach, like
gear/transfer box, are still cold/frozen (depending on the weather).
The answer to your question costs ca 500 quid (I know a dealer who selles
Webasto heaters at a good price). Another brand to look for is Eberspacher.
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Roman
London UK
'92 HDJ80
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Unfortunately we don't have a garage here (yet).
The problem isn't necessary the outside temperature, just the fact that
we have to thrash the engine so close to startup, when they reckon that
80% of engine wear is in the first five minutes.
It's not like elsewhere where I have lived where you pootle along
country lanes before hitting a dual carriageway - within 800yrds I am
at the junction and then need to accelerate from 0 to 70 or 80 in order
to get onto the dual carriageway. In the morning you need to be as
quick as possible because there are few breaks in the traffic and the
'slip way' on is only 20ft!
I currently have a SAAB 9000 turbo, which helps greatly, however I have
noticed rapid engine wear as a result of these cold starts.
A block heater seems a good idea.
Do any of you recommend any of these oil additives to reduce wear at
startup.
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Julian,
I know Robbie has mentioned that he always starts his truck several mins b4
he goes anywhere. He believes one of the big factors to head gasket failure
is people jumping into their trucks, starting it up and going a couple of
mins b4 blasting down the motorway at 60mph+. The strain on the engine
(without any warmup) causes a lot of stress. So he advises starting the car
and letting it run for awhile b4 u drive it (or drive gently for awhile :)
I'm trying to get into the habit !
The auto-starters on cold winter days (especially when have no garage) sound
like a nice idea. I know their quite cheap over here (at least for petrol
engines - don't know about diesel).
Lal
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105K on 1996 USA 80 Landcruiser 1FZFE in Colorado, Usa
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Subject: [ELCO] Engine wear when cold
Is there anything specific that can be done to protect against engine
wear from hard driving when the engine is cold?
I live about 800 yards from a major dual carriageway/highway that I
always use whenever I am going anywhere.
The traffic generally flows at around 70-75mph and first thing in the
morning, you have to be really quick to get on when there is a gap -
the slower the vehicle the harder it is to get on.
Of course all this occurs when the engine is still pretty cold.
Apart from using a decent engine oil (any good recommendations?) And
maybe trying to warm the engine up beforehand (it takes a long time
with the fixed fan on an 80), do you have any other suggestions?
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
[Email address removed]
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
80less at the moment - Roll on June!
 
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Roman said:
I was starting to think that way. I wonder how much difference they
actually make in preventing damage.
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Mobile: 07971 540362
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As Roman has pointed out, whilst a block heater will warm the block, it won't
warm the gearbox, transfer case, etc. At least starting the engine will get
the gearbox oil flowing and warming.
I think that is the habit I need to start getting into.
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Julian Voelcker
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On 2 Jul 2004 at 17:27, Julian Voelcker wrote:
Webasto used to claim that every cold start equals 500km normal wear.
But haven't seen that claim in later brochures, possibly because oils
have gotten better and better....but I guess 250km is still
plausible.
Note that when ambient temperatures drop below -20C, you might even
need such a coolant-heater during normal driving....a pre-chamber
diesel is already 30% more efficient than a gasoline, and a direct
injector adds another 30%....hardly anything left to heat up the
interior at severe cold....had to switch it on once, at -20C and a
snow storm....not enough heat to keep windows defogged, interior
warm, and snow on the windscreen melted....
Oh, and current Webasto's can be had with a summer-mode too, a timer
switching only the interior fan, without the heater, to pre-cool the
vehicle in summer....:))
(red-illuminated timer LCD, instead of the normal/old green-
illuminated one, can be switched later, older models need an extra
wire)
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Just a quick comment. In the Toyota owners handbook it tells you not to warm
the engine up on idle, as soon as it is ticking over evenly drive off.
Regards, Clive.
 
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Hi Clive,
Interesting, I wonder why that is?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
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On 9 Jul 2004 at 18:00, Julian Voelcker wrote:
Because it will soot up that way....:))
(and wash the engine-oil off the cylinder walls for the injected
diesel being too cold to burn (or was that only for gasolines?))
(btw, a diesel, in particular direct injector, will never heat up to
working temperature when idling (while a gasoline might overheat in
that scenario!))
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Willem-Jan Markerink
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is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand
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