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Hi Guys
Does anyone know where I could get a high lift jack in the UK, or does
anyone know the cost of them. I had a look for one and he wants 90 Euro for
it, seems a bit steepto me. It dawned on me, I know its about time too you
lot will say but. I have ordered my OME springs and shocks from the UK and
should get them next week and I should then be ably to get the 33 x 10.5 x15
tyres that I want.
So over all I guess the cruiser will grow about another 5 inches in height.
Now I know the tyres will give me about 3 inches or so, now my little
hydralic jack will not reach the extra height and the bottle jack is rusted
and unsafe so I have to now go for a taller jack either the larger bottle
jack or the high lift jack. So I think the high lift jack would be the best
option dont you.
John C
92 HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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On 5/6/05, john byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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I have a suggestion. why dont you wait for the LRE show at the Billing
Aquadrome near Northampton and buy all the stuff in one go, hi-lifts,
tyres, recovery gear, gadgets and whatever you may fancy?
It's UK biggest offroad automotive event. Don't worry it's for
Landrovers, I park my Landcruiser in the middle of the landrover only
field and get quite a few envious looks!
It'll be held on 14th-17th July 2005.
If you buy a hi-lift, 48 in may be a bit too short, 60 in is better.
At Billing they normally cost about =A355-60.
Your bottle jack still goes under the axle and (depending on the type)
may still be OK. You should also onsier an adapter and sutaible
supports on your landcruiser to use the hi-lft. Do you have them
already?
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Roman
We have a french student coming over at that time so can't go to the show.
Is it on every year at the same time. So the jack is about the same cost in
the UK, YES. So are you saying I still need a bottle jack with the high lift
jack. What supports do you need for the high lift jack.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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On 6/5/05 16:34, "john byrne" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
John
Many places where you can find a Hi-Lift but Matt Savage's web site might be
a start. They are very good, but perhaps overkill for a standard jack and
probably best suited to serious off road and overlanding work, and even then
I know many people who won't use them. They can also be very dangerous if
you don't know what you're doing and there are many stories of people being
badly hurt because they were careless. More of that later. I for one never
touch anything on the jack with hands if I can avoid it, as fingers can be
lopped off, again only if your are careless. Maybe you should get a bottle
jack that will take 5 tonnes plus. A bottle jack is placed under the axle,
and as soon as you start to raise, the wheel will begin to lift off the
ground too. A Hi Lift is attached to the body, so to start with the jack
takes the weight off the springs, and then the wheel will begin to lift.
There's lots more dos and donts with a Hi-Lift, but it may not be the answer
for you unless you plan to take all the kids and the wife to Africa for a
few months.
Cost is about 60 of your finest english pounds..
Cheers
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
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On 6/5/05 16:55, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Roman
As I've never owned a LR, I've never been to Billing. Can you point me in
the right direction for details, and maybe I can join you in the LR only car
park. My vehicle is up and running, and apart from an oil leak from the
newly fitted a/t oil cooler on a belt through France, it goes well.
(Loosened the union, reseated the pipe and retightened and it seems fine.
Doesn't bode well for rough corrugations so will have to re-look at it. Hope
your machine is back with a vengeance...)
Jeremy
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-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of john byrne
Sent: 06 May 2005 16:34
I know we're constantly told these type of jacks are a good thing but
I'd think carefully about it first John. They can be quite dangerous,
even with the correct jacking points. Not to mention they're hard to
store out of the way in a daily driver. They have their uses, but I
don't believe one of them is changing wheels on a daily driver
Landcruiser.
It's the diameter that will theoretically increase by 3 inches, your
axle casing (jacking point) will only be 1.5" higher. I've changed a 35"
with the standard bottle jack on tarmac, and it was right at the limit
of it's travel, but you could get away with it, or carry a 20cm square
of 1" plywood to put under the jack, or buy a bigger bottle jack from
somewhere like Machine Mart with a longer reach which is what I've done.
If you need to jack it off road I'd recommend using an air bag jack that
can be inflated from your exhaust or a compressor. For a couple of years
I carried a Jack-All around in the back of the car as well as an air bag
jack and the air bag did the trick every time with the Jack-All being
next to useless.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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On 5/6/05, john byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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http://tinyurl.com/4medz
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Look carefully at the tubes on the front and rear bumper/ This is
where I insert the hi-lift adapter. Some people use it also on sill
protectors. Any other point would be rather useless as it has to
suport 1/2 of the vehicle's weight.
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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On 5/6/05, Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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Jeremy,
Some info about the LRE show is here: http://tinyurl.com/9o3xc
http://tinyurl.com/9cbjt
It's at the Billing Aquadrome, Great Billing. Northamptonshire.,
postcode, NN3 9DA. Best UK event for anything related to off-roading
and overlanding.
I am hoping to attend, as in the past five years.
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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On 5/6/05, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jon,
I suppose you most enjoyed using the air bag jack in rare gloop :)
They are fine when you know how to use them, definitely not for
working under the car. Like the hi-lift they also miust be used on a
suitable support on the car, as they can bend bodywork or get easily
punched by sharp edges.
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 06 May 2005 20:15
The biggest issue I have with using a high lift type jack on a
Landcruiser, especially a lifted one, is that to get a wheel off the
ground requires my 4ft Jack-all to be almost at the top of the rack. At
that point it is extremely unstable even using an adapter and mounting
points because the beam bends alarmingly. That's before we worry about
getting the thing back down again and still having a jaw left.
Yes, a small sheet of plastic helps but I'd rather be muddy than use a
high lift :)
Fortunately in most instances you can use the standard jacking point. I
have found placing them under the axle casing works extremely well. I've
used a cheap and cheerful Draper one that comes in a little kit bag
several times, once to lift the front of the car out of a very deep
ditch I'd accidentally driven into, oops. The high lift was no use to me
then either, and another time to lift the back end out of a bog and
insert waffle boards which again the high lift was no use for.
Each to there own, they can't have gained the reputation they have
without having some uses. I know a chap with a very old LR, it's light,
has mediocre articulation, a high lift and some rope is all he needs to
recover his vehicle from most situations either jacking or 'winching'.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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Thanks Roman.
I'll be there, and hopefully sounds like many more LC drivers too.
Jeremy
On 6/5/05 20:07, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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Hey Guys
Thanks as usual for all the info on the high lift jack. Maybe ill stick with
the bottle jack, if the bottle jack that I have goes up and down does that
mean its OK and safe, It is rusted from the rear window water thingy we all
have. The two reasons why I was thinking of the high lift jack to be honest
was when I met MIk and he used it so well to move a cruiser sideways and the
other is so I woulden't have to bend so much when I needed to jack it u, see
the back is nackered. It is a pity about the show sounds like you guys are
going to have some fun and dont get too envious of all the beautiful LRs
there. O god now Julian will expell me from the group.
Is it just when photos are sent it messes with the time to download up for
people. See I haven't got a clue about this either.
Jon your new home is it a long barge canal boat, can you sail up the canals
if you want , would be quite nice in the summer.
Thanks for the phots Roman and Mik I know we will met again, this is the
part where you say not if I see you first John.
Jon W thanks for the idea of the air bag sounds good, would it work with a
small compressor type thing that plugs into the cig lighter.
Well you all have a bit of craic at the show.
Thanks
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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John,
Have you considered using a bit of railway sleeper, or similar,
under the jack that you already have?
Regards, Clive.
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