Overlanding Queries - Roof Tent, Awning And Roof Rack

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On 10/10/07 07:38, "[Email address removed]" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I have a Patriot roof rack with an Eezi Awn awning fixed to the nearside of
the rack. The awning is probably the best thing I bought IMHO. I don't have
the side skirts and occasionally wish I did.
I like the Patriot because it is bolted rather than welded, all aluminium,
you can add pieces to it for attaching lights front and rear, it's strong
and generally wonderful for what I want. To date I haven't put a roof tent
on it but that will come. (Still using a ground tent.)
The awning is great - can't remember the length but I may try and take a
picture. Very easy to fix to the side of the Patriot rack - mine stays on
all the time. Not many places sell Patriot but if you ask Paul at Footloose
4x4 (or Bob) they will tell you about the fixings for the awning.
I'm busy today but will try and take a still when I can..
Jeremy
HDJ81 etc etc
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Re tents and ladders.
I was watching a 3 year old roof tent on e-bay yesterday - went for =A3820 stlg - 30% less than new purchase price. So while expensive - are worth it and can be easily flogged on for good money after your trip if it's a well sought after brand.
There was an excellent in-depth review of the top 6 roof tents in Overlander Magazine last month. Will dig it out at the weekend and scan you over a copy. They went into everything from the quality of the stitching, to set up times, water proof tests, ventilation ratings, how noisy it is when set up in various winds, weight, comfort, mounting, access - all sorts.
I think it was the techni top that came up top, with the easiawn a close second. One in particular had loads more ventilation and a roof flap for star gazing. That's the one I'll be going for.
using them.... If you do get one it needs to be easy to put up and take down.
An awning is a must in my opinion for shade. What ever one goes up the easiest and stays clean when packed away - so you'd be more inclined to use it.
You seem to be making savage headway with the preparations - what's your departure date?
Keep it lit
Niall
 
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peter
i used to have a howling moon rtt and shower skirt (annexe) mounted at the
rear of my vehicle. it doesn=92t take long to set up (longer if you put all
the window struts in) and use. due to the height of my vehicle i also had to
get a short ladder extension that hm do. the shower skirt was great as it
used to give the rear of my vehicle (where i did cooking/maintenance) a lot
of protection from wind and rain.
i have been told that the newer eezi-awns are using a different, lighter
fabric, than before and have heard reports that this is not as good as the
old stuff.
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hi guys,
as for the roof ten, for me it's a maggiolina every time!
on my next trip i think i won't be able to use it (need roofrack space
rack for 12 jerry cans).
perhaps i should consider selling it ?
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Peter,
It's useful when you camp for a few days in one place. For lunch break
stops you wouldn't be bothered to set it up. For shading from the sun
a piece of camo netting will do just as well.
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Hi
I have a Hannibal roofrack which is excellent. Quite light, but robust.
Carries wood on a daily basis but when away I use an Eezi awn tent, had it for years with no problems, not used a skirt as I have a Fiamina F35 awning - again excellent , this lives on the side of the roofrack as its useful for work. Don't overlook the awning as it is very useful especially when the sun is beating down..
Gareth
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:38 AM
Subject: [ELCO] Overlanding Queries - Roof Tent, Awning And Roof Rack
Hi y'all,
Once more to the well of ELCO listers experience of equipment and once more seeking your advice!
Shortly I will be ordering the roof tent, awning and roof rack. Can you help by giving me your views and experience on:
Roof Rack: I think I will be going for the Patriot roof rack and I believe that at least one lister has one.
1. Are there any weaknesses with this make of rack (see 'Awning' queries below), should I reconsider my choice?
2. Accessories ( clamps, tie down rings, etc) are more readily available on the Front Runner/ ARB, etc. Is it possible to get similar for the Patriot, if so how?
3. I am going for the longest length practical, 'over hanging' the front windscreen by about an inch or so; any problems with that?
Roof Tent and Ladder: I'm less certain here and it seems the nature of the tent itself is very much the same between the two main contenders Eezi Awn and Howling Moon.
1. However I would be interested to read about any problems you may have had or heard about .. OR.. praise for one or other.
2. As regards the tent ladder, I probably am wrong ( I have seen neither in action), but it seems that the Eezi Awn is more robust and slides out to extend, whilst the Howling Moon ladder has to be clipped/pushed together. Is this your experience? Any problems with ladder length?
3. Has anyone bought one with, or retro fitted, the ' annex '? Here there is the greatest variance between the two makes; the Eezi Awn using a separate ground sheet, whilst the Howling Moon one is zipped in and thus perhaps more secure against the type of night time bugs/creatures that populate my co-pilot's imagination! BUT the Howling Moon version would seem to be the more time consuming to attach (zips etc) and possibly prone to exerting a downward strain on the roof tent if the ground, to the rear of the 'cruiser, itself slopes downward. Any views or experience ?
Awning: The awning seems to be a good idea.
1. Is it an essential or luxury item? My view is that it stands on the 'essential' side of the line. Am I right?
2. Related to the Patriot roof rack, has anyone had problems, or heard of any, with the rack and the fitting of an awning?
3. Which awning have listers bought and any regrets or problems since using it?
4. Any other comments?
Thanks for your patience and for your advice; any comments related (or not) to the above queries will be a great help.
Peter
94 1HD-T(auto), 2.5"OME, oil cooler
 
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Not sure I agree Roman - we use the awning all the time, winter and summer. With
2 people it is very quick to set up, and gives good shade. I gave up trying to
use netting ages ago - a pain in the arse in wind. Or should I say butt
cheeks...
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Sorry I am not sure but I got it from Nene Overland maybe they can help..
On the awning front the Fiammina one is very easy to put up and down so you
tend to use it more often.. a little heavier than others but there I think
its better to have user friendly items other wise you can carry stuff and
not use them which is worse than something a bit heavier that's used..
maybe..?!
Gareth
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From: "Somers Niall" <[Email address removed]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Overlanding Queries - Roof Tent, Awning And Roof Rack
Gareth
Any idea what weight the Hannibal is?
Cheers
Niall
 
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Jeremy,
Well, maybe a self-retracting awning is OK. I had a simple canvass one
with two poles and guy ropes. It was a butt cheek pain to roll it up
quickly.
Besides, who needs an awning if you can park in places like this:
http://www.zen59375.zen.co.uk/public/lc_in_shade.jpg
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80 (auto)
On 10/10/07, [Email address removed] <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Roman
Re> Besides, who needs an awning if you can park in places like this:
No congestion charges there either I suppose :)
Niall
 
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Perfect spot - hope you've marked it on your map..! and true, no need for the
awning. Mine is like a roller blind and may not last forever - the downside is
it does need 2 people.
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On 10/10/07, [Email address removed] <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jeremy,
You bet! It's right here: N 24 51.601 E 10 33.226.
(http://www.zen59375.zen.co.uk/public/lc_in_shade.kmz)
Just take a boat to Tunis, cross the border to Tripoli, then drive
south for about 1200 km and make your way through the Akakus
mountains. You can't miss it!
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80 (auto)
 
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Well, I found it on Google Earth, but I can't see your cruiser Roman, it
must still be under cover!
TTFN
Chas
London UK '94 1HDT 80 Auto, 109000 miles, Safari snorkel, Custom Winch
bumper + winch, and Rear bumper with spare wheel carrier
+ Ray Dadd Rocksliders
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