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Good morning one and all,
I have a dilemma. I have 2 sets of rims with two sets of tyres. The tyres
are not tall enough for around here because of the ruts and I mean leading
to the property and not just green laning.. I will be looking for 285/75/16
for one set of rims to run about on a daily basis and the other set will
just have to wait most probably until next winter as believe it or not the
ruts get appreciably deeper then because the inner island swells up. I
shall then hopefully have found a set of 35". One set is 265/70/16 Marshal
A/T with 9mm tread and in good condition, the other set comprises of
275/70/16 two are BFG A/T 9+ mm in excellent condition looks new and the
other two are same size but dissimilar General XP 2000 A/T 6mm and
Sidewinder AP about 6mm. I have absolutely no idea if they would be of
interest to any body but what I would hope fore is that they may go some way
towards one set off tyres and if not I will just have to sick with them
until worn out but I would have to then buy 2 tyres to mach the BFG most
probably remolds of the same design of tread. Sounds complicated but it
makes sense to me.
If any one is interested in any of the tyres contact me off Forum please
[Email address removed] otherwise I would be interested in your comments here
as usual.
Anthony Graham
1994 HDJ80 1HD - T
West Wales
UK
 
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Anthony,
Out of curiosity if the ruts are to your own property wont putting
bigger wheels on etc just make the ruts bigger so you're back where you
started?
Ian.
Anthony Graham wrote:
> Good morning one and all,
>
>
>
> I have a dilemma. I have 2 sets of rims with two sets of tyres. The
> tyres are not tall enough for around here because of the ruts and I
> mean leading to the property and not just green laning.. I will be
> looking for 285/75/16 for one set of rims to run about on a daily
> basis and the other set will just have to wait most probably until
> next winter as believe it or not the ruts get appreciably deeper then
> because the inner island swells up. I shall then hopefully have found
> a set of 35". One set is 265/70/16 Marshal A/T with 9mm tread and in
> good condition, the other set comprises of 275/70/16 two are BFG A/T
> 9+ mm in excellent condition looks new and the other two are same size
> but dissimilar General XP 2000 A/T 6mm and Sidewinder AP about 6mm. I
> have absolutely no idea if they would be of interest to any body but
> what I would hope fore is that they may go some way towards one set
> off tyres and if not I will just have to sick with them until worn out
> but I would have to then buy 2 tyres to mach the BFG most probably
> remolds of the same design of tread. Sounds complicated but it makes
> sense to me.
>
>
>
> If any one is interested in any of the tyres contact me off Forum
> please [Email address removed] <mailto:[Email address removed]> otherwise
> I would be interested in your comments here as usual.
>
>
>
>
>
> Anthony Graham
>
> 1994 HDJ80 1HD - T
>
> West Wales
>
> UK
>
>
>
 
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Hi Ian,
Good question but the answer is no, there about as deep as they get in that
particular place as there is a bit of shale as you go down, they ruts formed
by my 101FC and a Unimog that I used to have. Basically I drag the 80's
axle pan casings, front radius arms on the axle, rear radius arm chassis
mounts and rear shock lower mounts, and of course those useless side steps
occasionally brush.
When I first came to the property my access was slightly different and I
used to approach the house through the centre of a field, the ruts got so
bad then that the 101FC got stuck and I that is why I was obliged to buy the
406 crew cab Unimog. Things are not that bad now. I have two access tracks
to the small holing the lower one a mile long and the top one about 3/4 of a
mile. My nearest neighbor farm is well over a mile away.
Anthony
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Ian Packer
Sent: 10 March 2005 11:12
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Anthony,
Out of curiosity if the ruts are to your own property wont putting bigger
wheels on etc just make the ruts bigger so you're back where you started?
Ian.
Anthony Graham wrote:
Good morning one and all,
I have a dilemma. I have 2 sets of rims with two sets of tyres. The tyres
are not tall enough for around here because of the ruts and I mean leading
to the property and not just green laning.. I will be looking for 285/75/16
for one set of rims to run about on a daily basis and the other set will
just have to wait most probably until next winter as believe it or not the
ruts get appreciably deeper then because the inner island swells up. I
shall then hopefully have found a set of 35". One set is 265/70/16 Marshal
A/T with 9mm tread and in good condition, the other set comprises of
275/70/16 two are BFG A/T 9+ mm in excellent condition looks new and the
other two are same size but dissimilar General XP 2000 A/T 6mm and
Sidewinder AP about 6mm. I have absolutely no idea if they would be of
interest to any body but what I would hope fore is that they may go some way
towards one set off tyres and if not I will just have to sick with them
until worn out but I would have to then buy 2 tyres to mach the BFG most
probably remolds of the same design of tread. Sounds complicated but it
makes sense to me.
If any one is interested in any of the tyres contact me off Forum please
[Email address removed] otherwise I would be interested in your comments here
as usual.
Anthony Graham
1994 HDJ80 1HD - T
West Wales
UK
 
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Ever thought of just trying to fill the ruts in or lower the centre of
them?
Have a word with your local builders and tell them that if they are
ever pulling down a wall or have some rubble they are welcome to come
and dump it on your track. Slowly but surely you can get them filled
in.
All you would then need to do is to ask a local farmer to lend you a
loader to grade it - this is what we have done with most of our
gateways.
Alternatively, we go round some of our tracks in the summer with a
power harrow to lower the centre of the ruts - it looks a little messy
at first, but if done in the summer should level things out a bit.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Ever thought of just trying to fill the ruts in or lower the centre of
them?
Have a word with your local builders and tell them that if they are
ever pulling down a wall or have some rubble they are welcome to come
and dump it on your track. Slowly but surely you can get them filled
in.
All you would then need to do is to ask a local farmer to lend you a
loader to grade it - this is what we have done with most of our
gateways.
Alternatively, we go round some of our tracks in the summer with a
power harrow to lower the centre of the ruts - it looks a little messy
at first, but if done in the summer should level things out a bit.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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We have a similar problem, albeit on a smaller (shallower?) scale. Our drive is a farm track owned by my farmer neighbour, and at this time of year it resembles a tank training track. It doesn't bother the LC, but my wife's Vauxhall Zafira is currently on about the 20th iteration of fixings for the under-engine protection plate.

The real problems arise in sub-zero weather when the raised mud in the middle goes solid, and in summer when (if I've failed to scrape it down) it is also solid.

In the last five years we have had three cars arrive at the house with oil pouring out of their sumps - but surprisingly none due to that section of the drive. The first (the vicar in his wife's car!) took the ford in the village at speed, and encountered a stone in it. The other two turned off the public road at the very entrance of our drive going far too fast, and whacked themselves on the hump in the middle of the residual tarmac section.

Amazingly the postman is still quite happy to deliver, and assures us that our drive is nothing compared to some of them! What really annoys me is that it doesn't seem to matter how much stone I put down, as it just disappears under the influence of cows, tractors, etc.

Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT


-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]On Behalf Of Anthony Graham
Sent: 10 March 2005 11:30
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hi Ian,

Good question but the answer is no, there about as deep as they get in that particular place as there is a bit of shale as you go down, they ruts formed by my 101FC and a Unimog that I used to have. Basically I drag the 80's axle pan casings, front radius arms on the axle, rear radius arm chassis mounts and rear shock lower mounts, and of course those useless side steps occasionally brush.

When I first came to the property my access was slightly different and I used to approach the house through the centre of a field, the ruts got so bad then that the 101FC got stuck and I that is why I was obliged to buy the 406 crew cab Unimog. Things are not that bad now. I have two access tracks to the small holing the lower one a mile long and the top one about 3/4 of a mile. My nearest neighbor farm is well over a mile away.
 
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Hi guys,
I guess you've missed the point. Anthony just wants bigger tyres!
If he wanted advice how to fill the ruts, he would ask a DYI group :)
Anthony, go for 35"!. You know you want it!!!
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:00:30 GMT, Julian Voelcker
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Julian,
The access track ways to my property are not really much of a bother to me.
I have got used to them over the last 8 years. On the top track the first
400m from the road a just like any farm track way potholed and deeply
depressed etc enough to bash the oil pan of a hatch back if driven
carelessly. The next 200m or so are what would cause some people a problem
the last bit up to my farm I have dug out my self for ease of navigation
especially in the winter as it is on a slope. My house is not in the centre
of the land which I own, I have all legal rights over both tracks but I am
very reluctant to surface what I do not own and control. We live in a
remote property and it is difficult for people to approach with out 4x4
especially in the winter so this guaranties a lot of privacy and security
all be it at the expense of some little inconvenience. I can do up the
access but why should I convenience the neighboring farmer at my expense
when I can manage as it is. It also would physically allow third parties
vehicular access to my neighbors land during such times as the fox hunting
which I am very much opposed to. I also have badger sets on my land here
which have been attacked and a track way across my neighbors land would put
them at a greater risk especially if I was not here. I would like to
purchase the length of land the track runs on but my neighbor thinks that I
am very rich especially since I have an 80.so we are very unlikely to come
to an agreement in the short term. It is possible if I were to go to Law
that he could be forced to put the track to allow easier access but I can
not guarantee this and could be an expensive exercise who ever won the suit.
I have already bought 130m of track of another neighbor and this is what I
have made up, he got fed up with waiting for us to give up and pay him a lot
of money but once I had a Unimog he soon became very inconvenienced, as his
tractor made heavy weather of negotiating the ruts which crossed his land at
the time. Unimogs are very useful tools in more ways than one especially
once I told him I would be using it soon on the bottom track as well, he
very soon came to an agreement. I believe it is just a matter of time, it
may sound as though I am difficult but non of my neighbors are very pleasant
and see any one from England as a means of increasing there bank balances.
No rather in the short time I will just equip my vehicle to cope. The
bottom track is interesting in that it goes through woodland and has a climb
from the village and is very narrow and good fun but also can be very
slippery and rutted very muddy and covered with cattle dung over the last
100m.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Julian Voelcker
Sent: 10 March 2005 13:01
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Ever thought of just trying to fill the ruts in or lower the centre of
them?
Have a word with your local builders and tell them that if they are
ever pulling down a wall or have some rubble they are welcome to come
and dump it on your track. Slowly but surely you can get them filled
in.
All you would then need to do is to ask a local farmer to lend you a
loader to grade it - this is what we have done with most of our
gateways.
Alternatively, we go round some of our tracks in the summer with a
power harrow to lower the centre of the ruts - it looks a little messy
at first, but if done in the summer should level things out a bit.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Christopher,
The post man I believe used to deliver here but I was told that it was on
horse back along time ago. The village only had electricity in the late
sixties and here some time in the seventies.
Anthony
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From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Christopher Bell
Sent: 10 March 2005 13:05
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
We have a similar problem, albeit on a smaller (shallower?) scale. Our
drive is a farm track owned by my farmer neighbour, and at this time of year
it resembles a tank training track. It doesn't bother the LC, but my wife's
Vauxhall Zafira is currently on about the 20th iteration of fixings for the
under-engine protection plate.
The real problems arise in sub-zero weather when the raised mud in the
middle goes solid, and in summer when (if I've failed to scrape it down) it
is also solid.
In the last five years we have had three cars arrive at the house with oil
pouring out of their sumps - but surprisingly none due to that section of
the drive. The first (the vicar in his wife's car!) took the ford in the
village at speed, and encountered a stone in it. The other two turned off
the public road at the very entrance of our drive going far too fast, and
whacked themselves on the hump in the middle of the residual tarmac section.
Amazingly the postman is still quite happy to deliver, and assures us that
our drive is nothing compared to some of them! What really annoys me is
that it doesn't seem to matter how much stone I put down, as it just
disappears under the influence of cows, tractors, etc.
Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]On
Behalf Of Anthony Graham
Sent: 10 March 2005 11:30
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hi Ian,
Good question but the answer is no, there about as deep as they get in that
particular place as there is a bit of shale as you go down, they ruts formed
by my 101FC and a Unimog that I used to have. Basically I drag the 80's
axle pan casings, front radius arms on the axle, rear radius arm chassis
mounts and rear shock lower mounts, and of course those useless side steps
occasionally brush.
When I first came to the property my access was slightly different and I
used to approach the house through the centre of a field, the ruts got so
bad then that the 101FC got stuck and I that is why I was obliged to buy the
406 crew cab Unimog. Things are not that bad now. I have two access tracks
to the small holing the lower one a mile long and the top one about 3/4 of a
mile. My nearest neighbor farm is well over a mile away.
 
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Roman,
It is very nice to here from you especially after the news of your
crankshaft I am glad that you have sourced a cheaper part from Holland. Yes
you have hit it on the nail on the head I have looked at having the track
done and have done some near the house my self but it is tyres what I am
after and 35 simex would be very nice. I think I can get away with 285/7516
or 305/70/16 (same diameter) for most occasions and what I thought a set of
35 simex for winter and accessing some more of my land. I can only afford
one set at a time and can barely manage that at the present. I can not make
my mind up what tyre though, M/T or A/T. I have looked at Bronco remold in
285 sizes but as an every day tire may not be so good, if a compromise then
Goodyear MTR, Pro Comp X Terrain or some thing similar. I think that some
one has had the X terrain and would like to here an appraisal like wise the
MTR.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 10 March 2005 13:09
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hi guys,
I guess you've missed the point. Anthony just wants bigger tyres!
If he wanted advice how to fill the ruts, he would ask a DYI group :)
Anthony, go for 35"!. You know you want it!!!
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:00:30 GMT, Julian Voelcker
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Hello Anthony,
AFAIK, to achieve full articulation, 35" rubbers need a bit more than
2" lift. 33" should be fine, though.
My opinion is that with the established brands you get what you pay
for, so if you set yourself a price limit you can't go really wrong.
I've had good results with Cooper Discoverer A/T as a general use tyre
(good on road, cr^p in mud but wear realy well). BFG MT also last
for a while and are not bad on tarmac.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:48:51 -0000, Anthony Graham
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Roman,
The Slee site suggests a quite a lot of things to achieve full articulation
with 35" or 315/75/16 and yet it is commonly understood that it is possible
to run 305/70/16 and achieve full articulation without any lift at all and
even 295/75/16 a 34 inch tyre without modification. I believe that a 2"
lift should allow for a 35". In a survey in the US there were conflicting
opinions on 35" tyres (tires) and the minimum lift needed to achieve full
articulation. Some were of the opinion that nothing touched with 2" others
2" + spacers others stated that they only achieved a full articulation with
considerably more while two ran 35" with standard rigs no lift and drove
with care because of the inevitable rubbing. At present I have no lift at
all and attend to this if and when I go to 35" I am will not be sure until
then on what lift I will go for, I do not have additional bumpers, tanks
etc. I will have to of course consult with the boss after I have briefed
here on the necessity of these life essential things etc, etc. You are
correct about setting a price it is very easy to have your mark razed by
attractive things. It is good to here about experiences with tyres. I am a
bit unfamiliar with acronyms what is AFAIK it is probably very obvious and
every one will be laughing at me but there you go.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 10 March 2005 15:05
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hello Anthony,
AFAIK, to achieve full articulation, 35" rubbers need a bit more than
2" lift. 33" should be fine, though.
My opinion is that with the established brands you get what you pay
for, so if you set yourself a price limit you can't go really wrong.
I've had good results with Cooper Discoverer A/T as a general use tyre
(good on road, cr^p in mud but wear realy well). BFG MT also last
for a while and are not bad on tarmac.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:48:51 -0000, Anthony Graham
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
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Anthony,
I don't want to go into what's posiible or not with or without one
lift or another as the internet 4x4 newsgroups are littered with such
information. Suffice to say that with tyres big enough to restrict
axle movement you only achieve half of the objective. On the other
hand, it is generally accepted that a lift over 2" requires
modifications to the drive train. I think I am not entirely wong if I
say that for what you want to achieve 33" tyres would be more than
enough.
As for acronyms, here's a few that come handy to make the conversation
flow smoothly:
AFAIK - As Far As I Know
BTW - By The Way
d/l - Download
FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions (Answer Guide)
IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO - In My Not-So-Humble Opinion
HTH - Hope This Helps or Happy To Help
RTFM - Read The F... Manual
TIA - Thanks In Advance
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:24:37 -0000, Anthony Graham
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Anthony, relax about acronyms - AFAIK - As Far As I Know - there are
loads of them.
Gareth Jones.
 
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Roman,
Thank you for the list it is OK about lifts I have read a fair bit on sites
Slee etc been involved with debates, and realize that it can be far more
involved than just putting in springs. But thank you for pointing that out
33" would just be about right for the most part I think I would get by with
only minimal scraping and that would be OK. This is a good sounding board
to focus ones thoughts as mine tend to eco, eco a fair bit as the thought
processes go on and try to differentiate between what I would like as
opposed to what I need.
TTFN ( I hope that does not stand for anything rude)
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 10 March 2005 16:40
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Anthony,
I don't want to go into what's posiible or not with or without one
lift or another as the internet 4x4 newsgroups are littered with such
information. Suffice to say that with tyres big enough to restrict
axle movement you only achieve half of the objective. On the other
hand, it is generally accepted that a lift over 2" requires
modifications to the drive train. I think I am not entirely wong if I
say that for what you want to achieve 33" tyres would be more than
enough.
As for acronyms, here's a few that come handy to make the conversation
flow smoothly:
AFAIK - As Far As I Know
BTW - By The Way
d/l - Download
FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions (Answer Guide)
IIRC - If I Recall Correctly
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO - In My Not-So-Humble Opinion
HTH - Hope This Helps or Happy To Help
RTFM - Read The F... Manual
TIA - Thanks In Advance
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:24:37 -0000, Anthony Graham
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
articulation
possible
conflicting
others
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Anthony,
I've experimented with Pro Comp MT's - 35x12.5x16 - they perform well on
the road, even in the wet, and are quite good in the mud but like all
ordinary MT's they're not good at digging down through thick wet clay -
they're not aggressive enough so they clog up. I suspect the X Terrain
will perform similarly from what I've seen of them.
I had a 2" lift and 35x10.5x16 Simex ET's for ages with just occasional
rubbing, and yes it did get twisted up good and proper. You shouldn't
need wheel spacers to stop them rubbing on the suspension arms and I
found that the wider track spacers give on a wide cruiser means you're
fighting the edges of the ruts a lot of the time. Without a lift I think
35's will be rubbing almost constantly, not a good thing if you were
running Simex. The 35's are actually 34.5.
The 36x12.5x16 ET II's are a few mm from touching the suspension arms on
full lock without spacers and don't rub at all when articulated, but I
have about 5" of lift now, bump stops are standard. The 36's are 36.2.
Also, even with the 5" lift I don't have castor correction etc, seems ok
without.
The Bronco Grizzlies are very poor on the road and mediocre in the mud -
better than an MT but not in the same league as Simex, but then they're
extremely cheap.
I've seen BFG MT's working well in the mud, not so good on a wet road
but not a bad compromise. The Goodyear MTR's seem to perform more like a
halfway house between an AT and an MT.
I think I've come to the conclusion that for AT's and MT's you're best
sticking to 10.5" wide - the 12.5" float about on the top a bit. Simex
in 12.5 are ok because they dig down through anything.
Will it help with the farmer if I come and dig the track up for you? :)
Best Regards,
Jon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Anthony Graham
Sent: 10 March 2005 14:49
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Roman,
It is very nice to here from you especially after the news of your
crankshaft I am glad that you have sourced a cheaper part from Holland.
Yes
you have hit it on the nail on the head I have looked at having the
track
done and have done some near the house my self but it is tyres what I am
after and 35 simex would be very nice. I think I can get away with
285/7516
or 305/70/16 (same diameter) for most occasions and what I thought a set
of
35 simex for winter and accessing some more of my land. I can only
afford
one set at a time and can barely manage that at the present. I can not
make
my mind up what tyre though, M/T or A/T. I have looked at Bronco remold
in
285 sizes but as an every day tire may not be so good, if a compromise
then
Goodyear MTR, Pro Comp X Terrain or some thing similar. I think that
some
one has had the X terrain and would like to here an appraisal like wise
the
MTR.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On
Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 10 March 2005 13:09
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hi guys,
I guess you've missed the point. Anthony just wants bigger tyres!
If he wanted advice how to fill the ruts, he would ask a DYI group :)
Anthony, go for 35"!. You know you want it!!!
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:00:30 GMT, Julian Voelcker
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Jon,
Thank you for your excellent observations concerning these tyres. If I ran
to 35" without a lift it would be for a very short time as I would expect
them to rub very easily and would be forced to razing the suspension I will
have to replace dampers as they are all but shot in any case. I would very
much like in the future to have Simex 35" ET but they would have to be for
the future as a second set, I have now 2 sets of rims, I think that they
would be unsuited for bombing about on the road. I have used tyres from
Bronco before on a 110 LR which very similar to the Grizzlies but not the
same and I agree with you they do dig in very quickly which may be OK if
there is some thing to dig down for but not so good if they leave the axles
resting on the mud and the wheels churning, they where a bit noisy and I
made a conscious effort to keep below 70 or even 6o to preserve the tread
and prevent peeling, I would be concerned in the same manor with the Simex
as it would be a shame to ware out such good off road tyres on the motor
way, I am not too concerned about the handling issues of mud or extreme
tyres on the road as it only takes a very short time to adept to the various
vagaries. I for some reason thought that you where using the X Terrain and
not the Mud my mistake I suspect that they may clog up it looks as though
they may have been designed for rock crawling I am not too sure but the
tread looks interesting and should run quietly on the road because of its V
shaped tread which usually also makes for good tread clearing in mud like
tractor tyres which are self cleaning, the Mickey Thompson Radial Claw is a
V treaded tyre but unfortunately very expensive. The only other V treaded
tyre that I can think of is the Yokahoma MT but I can not find an advert in
any magazine these days with them in and they are most probably sold in the
smaller and most popular sizes, though 35" are available in the US. Have
you any experiences with them? I have to say that the impressions that I
got from the US about Goodyear MT were very good but then generally speaking
rocks is what seems to make the tic over there and AT pattern tyres are very
popular so you comments about them being a compromise AT/MT.
I think that it is a pity there is not more discussion about tyre
performance I magazines web sites etc as they perhaps have the single
biggest influence on driving that can be added to a vehicle.
Digging the track up, ha I have a 101FC and used to have a Unimog 406 Crew
Cab that did that very nicely but if you are passing. I think that I may
have possibly seen you or an imposter out side a pub on the corner near the
cattle market in Newcastle Emlyn Ceredigion some time ago; I think that the
grey 80 had a missing wheel arch molding.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Jon Wildsmith
Sent: 10 March 2005 17:50
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Anthony,
I've experimented with Pro Comp MT's - 35x12.5x16 - they perform well on
the road, even in the wet, and are quite good in the mud but like all
ordinary MT's they're not good at digging down through thick wet clay -
they're not aggressive enough so they clog up. I suspect the X Terrain
will perform similarly from what I've seen of them.
I had a 2" lift and 35x10.5x16 Simex ET's for ages with just occasional
rubbing, and yes it did get twisted up good and proper. You shouldn't
need wheel spacers to stop them rubbing on the suspension arms and I
found that the wider track spacers give on a wide cruiser means you're
fighting the edges of the ruts a lot of the time. Without a lift I think
35's will be rubbing almost constantly, not a good thing if you were
running Simex. The 35's are actually 34.5.
The 36x12.5x16 ET II's are a few mm from touching the suspension arms on
full lock without spacers and don't rub at all when articulated, but I
have about 5" of lift now, bump stops are standard. The 36's are 36.2.
Also, even with the 5" lift I don't have castor correction etc, seems ok
without.
The Bronco Grizzlies are very poor on the road and mediocre in the mud -
better than an MT but not in the same league as Simex, but then they're
extremely cheap.
I've seen BFG MT's working well in the mud, not so good on a wet road
but not a bad compromise. The Goodyear MTR's seem to perform more like a
halfway house between an AT and an MT.
I think I've come to the conclusion that for AT's and MT's you're best
sticking to 10.5" wide - the 12.5" float about on the top a bit. Simex
in 12.5 are ok because they dig down through anything.
Will it help with the farmer if I come and dig the track up for you? :)
Best Regards,
Jon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Anthony Graham
Sent: 10 March 2005 14:49
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Roman,
It is very nice to here from you especially after the news of your
crankshaft I am glad that you have sourced a cheaper part from Holland.
Yes
you have hit it on the nail on the head I have looked at having the
track
done and have done some near the house my self but it is tyres what I am
after and 35 simex would be very nice. I think I can get away with
285/7516
or 305/70/16 (same diameter) for most occasions and what I thought a set
of
35 simex for winter and accessing some more of my land. I can only
afford
one set at a time and can barely manage that at the present. I can not
make
my mind up what tyre though, M/T or A/T. I have looked at Bronco remold
in
285 sizes but as an every day tire may not be so good, if a compromise
then
Goodyear MTR, Pro Comp X Terrain or some thing similar. I think that
some
one has had the X terrain and would like to here an appraisal like wise
the
MTR.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On
Behalf Of Roman
Sent: 10 March 2005 13:09
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] [SALE]
Hi guys,
I guess you've missed the point. Anthony just wants bigger tyres!
If he wanted advice how to fill the ruts, he would ask a DYI group :)
Anthony, go for 35"!. You know you want it!!!
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:00:30 GMT, Julian Voelcker
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Anthony,
If you run 35's without a lift I think you'll need to cut the inside
corner of the front bumper end caps - they stick in quite a long way, I
know I've looked at them on our 93 with no lift and 33's and thought
it's a close call.
33" MT's and the diff locks should see you through most things (is yours
a UK model?)
The Simex are not a remould so they won't peel. They're actually quite
happy chugging up and down the motorway at 70 with low tread wear. What
they don't like is bombing round country roads with all those changes of
direction, wears them out much quicker. They are an incredibly tough
tyre though, mine have withstood terrible side wall abuse on rocks and
tree stumps.
I agree, it is strange that such an important issue gets so little
attention.
Must have been an impostor, I haven't had the pleasure of investigating
that area yet.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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Jon,
Yes I agree the end caps would most defiantly need trimming without a lift
and I think that the Simex are a genuine 35". Mine is a UK model with
lockers.
The more that you tell me about the Simex ET the more I think I ought to
have them but I would need to adopt a different style of driving on the
road. Better not tell me any more good things about them. I will probably
have to be boring and go with 33" until I have a lift some time in the
future not too long I hope though.
The bottom track I had not driven for a while as my CDL was not operating
and therefore axle locks were not working either. So when I drove it again
I had all the locks working and I very nearly got stuck, though I was only
wearing A/T. Now after driving repeatedly and with the heavy rains it has
cleared the track to make it a much easier drive
Regards
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]] On
Behalf Of Jon Wildsmith
Sent: 10 March 2005 21:04
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: RE: [ELCO] [SALE]
Anthony,
If you run 35's without a lift I think you'll need to cut the inside
corner of the front bumper end caps - they stick in quite a long way, I
know I've looked at them on our 93 with no lift and 33's and thought
it's a close call.
33" MT's and the diff locks should see you through most things (is yours
a UK model?)
The Simex are not a remould so they won't peel. They're actually quite
happy chugging up and down the motorway at 70 with low tread wear. What
they don't like is bombing round country roads with all those changes of
direction, wears them out much quicker. They are an incredibly tough
tyre though, mine have withstood terrible side wall abuse on rocks and
tree stumps.
I agree, it is strange that such an important issue gets so little
attention.
Must have been an impostor, I haven't had the pleasure of investigating
that area yet.
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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