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I have just stripped down my doors to try to speed up my windows - they
all start off fast, but then slow down, with the back windows needing
assistance.
I didn't touch the motors, but here are some observations:
Try to use something like a hard blade scraper to prise off the door
trims otherwise you will end up prising the phasic clips out of the
cardboard trim.
I ended up completely removing the front window glass (easy to do by
undoing a couple of bolts) - the backs looked like they needed more
effort so didn't bother.
Whilst the top sections of the runners were pretty clean, the bottom
sections within the door were caked in grime - I used warm soapy water
with a green brillo pad and also a flat bladed screwdriver (about 5mm
thick) to scrape all the grime out and to scrub the rubbers.
Once dried I cleaned them further by soaking in Armorall and using a
rag to work the stuff into the rubber.
I also did what I could to scrub off the glass - I had even toyed with
taking all the glass off and sanding the edges down to try to smooth
them.
Once all the Armorall was dry I lined all the rubbers with a PTFE based
'dry grease' by squirting it in the groove and then lowering and
raising the windows over and over again.
One thing I noticed with the rear windows was that they would start to
go down well and then the rubber runners in the bottom half would drop
down a few millimeters and it would start to slow down - holding the
runner up in their grove didn't slow down the window as much - at some
point I might try to fix the rubbers in place to prevent this from
happening.
I also noticed that the frame on the window of the drivers door was
bent out of place - straightening it made a huge difference.
All the windows now work fine, they aren't super fast but do go up and
down unaided. The damp and cold tomorrow morning will be a true test,
but I am confident they should be OK.
Hope this helps.
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special Toyota
fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a mission
now ...
Best Regards,
Jon.
 
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>Poor contact integrity on the original fuse?
I can think of a few possible reasons along those lines but it seems too
simple, too good to be true :)
Best Regards,
Jon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: 07 March 2005 11:23
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
Poor contact integrity on the original fuse?
Pete
Jon Wildsmith wrote:
Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special Toyota
fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a mission
now ...
Best Regards,
Jon.

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Could it just be the that the weather is warmer/drier?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Could it just be the that the weather is warmer/drier?
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Pete's probably right. The contacts tarnish over a few years, if they
are never touched this can affect the voltage/current flow, with only
12v to start with there is not much to be able to afford losses.
Regards, Clive.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:19:04 -0000, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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On 7/3/05 22:24, "Clive Marks" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Stupid question coming up here but can you tell me where the fuses are for
the windows and aircon, as I don't seem to have them either in the dash or
under the bonnet or else they are marked differently.
Thanks
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Good question!! I was wondering too!
Matt, Derbyshire UK
1991 HDJ 80 with s l o w windows
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
On 7/3/05 22:24, "Clive Marks" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Pete's probably right. The contacts tarnish over a few years, if they
> are never touched this can affect the voltage/current flow, with only
> 12v to start with there is not much to be able to afford losses.
>
> Regards, Clive.
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:19:04 -0000, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
>>
>> Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
>>
>> On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
>> stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special Toyota
>> fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a mission
>> now ...
>>
Stupid question coming up here but can you tell me where the fuses are for
the windows and aircon, as I don't seem to have them either in the dash or
under the bonnet or else they are marked differently.
Thanks
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Err, Matt looks like we=B9re on our own here...
On 8/3/05 14:01, "Matt Savage Land Rover" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Good question!! I was wondering too!
>
> Matt, Derbyshire UK
>
> 1991 HDJ 80 with s l o w windows
>
> <http://www.mattsavage.com>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <mailto:[Email address removed]>
>>
>> To: [Email address removed]
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:47 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/05 22:24, "Clive Marks" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
>>
>>> > Pete's probably right. The contacts tarnish over a few years, if they
>>> > are never touched this can affect the voltage/current flow, with only
>>> > 12v to start with there is not much to be able to afford losses.
>>> >
>>> > Regards, Clive.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:19:04 -0000, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
>>>> >> stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special Toyota
>>>> >> fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a mission
>>>> >> now ...
>>>> >>
>>
>> Stupid question coming up here but can you tell me where the fuses are for
>> the windows and aircon, as I don't seem to have them either in the dash or
>> under the bonnet or else they are marked differently.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
>> 22a Alexandra Grove
>> London N4 2LF
>>
>> Tel: 020 8800 4987
>> Mob: 07831 458 793
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Re: [ELCO] Slow windowsyeah!
Maybe 240volts should do the trick!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
Err, Matt looks like we're on our own here...
On 8/3/05 14:01, "Matt Savage Land Rover" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Good question!! I was wondering too!

Matt, Derbyshire UK

1991 HDJ 80 with s l o w windows
<http://www.mattsavage.com>
----- Original Message -----

From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <mailto:[Email address removed]>

To: [Email address removed]

Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows

On 7/3/05 22:24, "Clive Marks" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Pete's probably right. The contacts tarnish over a few years, if they
> are never touched this can affect the voltage/current flow, with only
> 12v to start with there is not much to be able to afford losses.
>
> Regards, Clive.
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:19:04 -0000, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]> wrote:
>>
>> Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
>>
>> On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
>> stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special Toyota
>> fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a mission
>> now ...
>>
Stupid question coming up here but can you tell me where the fuses are for
the windows and aircon, as I don't seem to have them either in the dash or
under the bonnet or else they are marked differently.
Thanks
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Give us a chance! :)
They're in the dash fuse board by the steering wheel, windows is bottom
right (no. 16?) and air con is next to it (no. 15?) and they're pink (on
mine!) Toyota fuses, not the normal blade fuses. Try swapping them round
and prove me wrong.
Best regards,
Jon.
-----Original Message-----
From: [Email address removed] [mailto:[Email address removed]]
On Behalf Of Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Sent: 08 March 2005 14:27
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
Err, Matt looks like we're on our own here...
On 8/3/05 14:01, "Matt Savage Land Rover" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Good question!! I was wondering too!
Matt, Derbyshire UK
1991 HDJ 80 with s l o w windows
<http://www.mattsavage.com> <http://www.mattsavage.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <mailto:[Email address removed]>
<mailto:[Email address removed]>
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Slow windows
On 7/3/05 22:24, "Clive Marks" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Pete's probably right. The contacts tarnish over a few years, if they
> are never touched this can affect the voltage/current flow, with
only
> 12v to start with there is not much to be able to afford losses.
>
> Regards, Clive.
>
>
> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:19:04 -0000, Jon Wildsmith <[Email address removed]>
wrote:
>>
>> Could be my imagination but I'll risk being ridiculed anyway :)
>>
>> On Saturday the fuse for windows and door locks went on my 94, so I
>> stole the fuse from the air con (only cos it's the same special
Toyota
>> fuse) and I'd swear my windows go up and down like they're on a
mission
>> now ...
>>
Stupid question coming up here but can you tell me where the fuses are
for
the windows and aircon, as I don't seem to have them either in the dash
or
under the bonnet or else they are marked differently.
Thanks
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
22a Alexandra Grove
London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
Mob: 07831 458 793
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