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American Racing AR - 767 Part No 6883 -16 X 8. =A370.50 each inc VAT, from
www northhantstyres the UK importer - none in stock at present
These have been mentioned several times by Jon Held - he of the Scooby Doo floormats !! They have the correct offset / stud pattern for the 80 series. He and and a few others seem happy with them.
Gareth Jones '97 1-HDFT Newport S.Wales.
 
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Gareth
Could you elaborate what you mean by "the correct offset / stud pattern"?
Renate
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American Racing AR - 767 Part No 6883 -16 X 8. =A370.50 each inc VAT, from
www northhantstyres the UK importer - none in stock at present
These have been mentioned several times by Jon Held - he of the Scooby Doo floormats !! They have the correct offset / stud pattern for the 80 series. He and and a few others seem happy with them.
Gareth Jones '97 1-HDFT Newport S.Wales.
 
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I bought mine at a scrapyard off a Hilux (ca =A3100 for six), ten had
them shotblasted and powdercoated for another =A3100. They are a bit on
the narrow side, but with SecondAir lockers will do.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
=3D=3D=3D
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:14:00 +0000, Gareth Jones
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
rom
 
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found my steel lc split rims on ebay. 5 for =a320! wire brushed and hammerited
them myself but will be doing the same as roman as soon as i pick up 5
spares (lc rims with xzls) from durbs (r850 about =a380 for 5)
jeremy "--" -- =09
gps: s26 11.431 e028 00.279
4runner 3.0 td; arb bullbar; safari snorkel;
ome hd suspension; 750/16 michelin xzls on steel split rims;
twin batteries on split charge; 5 core radiator and no viscous coupling.
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from: [email address removed] [mailto:[email address removed]] on
behalf of roman
sent: 03 december 2004 11:24
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subject: re: [elco] steel wheels
i bought mine at a scrapyard off a hilux (ca =a3100 for six), ten had
them shotblasted and powdercoated for another =a3100. they are a bit on
the narrow side, but with secondair lockers will do.
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rgds,
roman (london, uk)
'92 hdj80
=3d=3d=3d
on fri, 03 dec 2004 09:14:00 +0000, gareth jones
<[email address removed]> wrote:
vat, from
 
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Renate,
Offsett - the distance from the mounting flange of the wheel to the inner rim of the wheel. Too much / little and you run the risk of a front tyre fouling the axle / bodywork on full lock / max suspension compression.
Stud pattern - how many studs hold the wheel on - 6 on an 80 - 5 on a 100 series - and the PCD - pitch circle diameter of said studs ie the diameter of a circle you would have to draw to touch all the studs.
I must add I haven't bought any of the 767 wheels - just another avenue - like the other guys I would look for some s/h ones.
Regards Gareth.
Gareth
Could you elaborate what you mean by "the correct offset / stud pattern"? Renate
American Racing AR - 767 Part No 6883 -16 X 8. =A370.50 each inc VAT, from
www northhantstyres the UK importer - none in stock at present
These have been mentioned several times by Jon Held - he of the Scooby Doo floormats !! They have the correct offset / stud pattern for the 80 series. He and and a few others seem happy with them.
Gareth Jones '97 1-HDFT Newport S.Wales.
 
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All, and maybe specifically those who have travelled in the Sahara, .

Its okay sending emails with many different types of steels wheels mentioned, but too much info, methinks
All I need is some idea/advice on what would be a BASIC strong, steel wheel, I'm not fussed about split rims, or otherwise, I'm not fussed about their look, I'm not even fussed if they are =A35 or =A3150, their hammewriteing or anything else cosmetic - provide me some info on basic wheels and I'll take it from there.

Basic info, this is all I need, bearing in mind the terrain they will be used on, same for the tyres, - rough stone, sand seas/ergs, searing day temperatures, minus night temps, gravel hammadas, regs, etc.

I hope this is not too much to ask of any of you - I haven't checked the archives yet, maybe there might be something useful in there.
Renate
 
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Gareth
Not quite as clear as mud, getting there but slowly!
all I'm after is 6 basic, good steel wheels, nothing fancy, something practical, useful, reliable. I'm not into how good they look, they'll be pushed to their limit so there is no point in me having fancy ones.
Renate
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Renate,
Offsett - the distance from the mounting flange of the wheel to the inner rim of the wheel. Too much / little and you run the risk of a front tyre fouling the axle / bodywork on full lock / max suspension compression.
Stud pattern - how many studs hold the wheel on - 6 on an 80 - 5 on a 100 series - and the PCD - pitch circle diameter of said studs ie the diameter of a circle you would have to draw to touch all the studs.
I must add I haven't bought any of the 767 wheels - just another avenue - like the other guys I would look for some s/h ones.
Regards Gareth.
>>> [Email address removed] 03/12/2004 09:18:44 >>>
Gareth
Could you elaborate what you mean by "the correct offset / stud pattern"? Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/03/04 09:14am >>>
American Racing AR - 767 Part No 6883 -16 X 8. =A370.50 each inc VAT, from
www northhantstyres the UK importer - none in stock at present
These have been mentioned several times by Jon Held - he of the Scooby Doo floormats !! They have the correct offset / stud pattern for the 80 series. He and and a few others seem happy with them.
Gareth Jones '97 1-HDFT Newport S.Wales.
 
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Hi guys
Just on the subjest of wheels, What is the size of the biggest wheels you
can put on the 80. At the moment they are 265x70x 15 on mine the original
ones.
Is there any particular wheels that are suitable from other vehicles.
John c
92 HDJ 80 Ireland
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From: "Gareth Jones" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Steel wheels
Renate,
Offsett - the distance from the mounting flange of the wheel to the inner
rim of the wheel. Too much / little and you run the risk of a front tyre
fouling the axle / bodywork on full lock / max suspension compression.
Stud pattern - how many studs hold the wheel on - 6 on an 80 - 5 on a 100
series - and the PCD - pitch circle diameter of said studs ie the diameter
of a circle you would have to draw to touch all the studs.
I must add I haven't bought any of the 767 wheels - just another avenue -
like the other guys I would look for some s/h ones.
Regards Gareth.
Gareth
Could you elaborate what you mean by "the correct offset / stud pattern"?
Renate
American Racing AR - 767 Part No 6883 -16 X 8. ?70.50 each inc VAT, from
www northhantstyres the UK importer - none in stock at present
These have been mentioned several times by Jon Held - he of the Scooby Doo
floormats !! They have the correct offset / stud pattern for the 80 series.
He and and a few others seem happy with them.
Gareth Jones '97 1-HDFT Newport S.Wales.
 
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John,
Do a search on the 80scool archive - every week there's a score of
q&a's on this subeject.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:19:19 -0000, john byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Hi John,
I guess it really depends on what you want to do.
Later 80s (I think after '92) had 16" rims and the standard size tyre that
many go for is 285/75/16 that fit nicely with stock suspension without any
rubbing. I currently run 265/75/16s and will upgrade when I wear them out.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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If I might add, or support Roman's good advice.
I have not yet experienced desert conditions (though its imminent).
But the rocks must be the same that I am used to driving in on
mountains. And where you get rocks you get bent and chipped alloy
rims, only steel can cope with that. Its surprising how deformed a
steel rim can become before causing any problem with the tyre, such
as weakening the sidewall etc. As for straightening it, well its not
so easy if its an OEM toy wheel, unless you have heat. They are so
thick and so tough that you can barely make a mark on them with a
hammer when cold. Doesn't prevent rocks from deforming them though !
The OEM toy wheel for a bog standard 7.50 X 16 is well based in
cross section. Other sizes in steel - for the 80 series anyway - are
usually like mine, a split rim which is nearly bomb proof. In my
previous work all the fleets of 4WD's I have known have always had
steel wheels for rough country work. ie. they are supplied with them
from new. Another good thing about split rims is that you can run a
short distance with the tyre flat if you need to manoeuvre to a
better place to change it.
As for replacement steel wheels, be very very cautious with the
white/grey 8 spoke type. First make sure they are of adequate
thickness (at least 8mm) apart of course from having the right
offset. But most important is that the cheap wheels with the flat
centres (cheap to make) will never tighten-up satisfactorily. There
is too much contact area between hub and wheel centre and the
tightening pressure is spread over too large an area to gain adequate
friction. Get wheels that have raised 'lands' between each stud or
just round the base of each stud. It is these lands that make the
contact and all the tightening pressure from the nuts is concentrated
on about 30% of the matching surfaces, which keeps the wheel tight as
the wheel centre is in fact sprung by tightening the nuts, thus
maintaining pressure. HTH
Cheers
Jon
Linslade, Beds
'92 HZJ80 ex UN Bosnia surplus
 
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Jon
Thanks for the input re steel wheel selection - appreciated
Niall
 
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