auto gearbox

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Jeremy
I couldn't have put it better myself!!
We desert dudes share lots in common, and I'm so pleased that you,
Roman, Dennis & myself are on this list!
Renate
I think the auto/manual 'thing' could run and run. It is all down to
personal preference and mine is for auto. The Toyota auto boxes are as
tough
as brick you-know-whats, its wise to fit an oil cooler to them if you
envisage heavy work, ie towing, or going to hot countries, and they can
cope
with anything you care to throw at them. And then back here in
congested
blighty, there is no frantic pumping up and down of the left foot. In
Kenya
where I was born and spent half my life, we had a manual TLC, used a
lot in
mud and dry stuff. Since then, I've used exclusively auto in every car
I've
had since the age of 25 and have been more than happy. I also think
that in
sand and dunes etc the characteristics of an auto box are much better
suited
to these sort of conditions, with the slower release of torque in H2
and H3
and the ability to feed the power in on throttle alone. It can get
pretty
hectic in the driving seat with a manual, with one hand on the wheel,
one
changing gear, one foot dabbing throttle and brake and the other
pumping the
clutch. I prefer two hands on the wheel where poss in sand particularly
on
descents, as one smal wrong turn of the wheel can mean a quick and
dangerous
roll. And then a lengthy and tiring recovery.
I think you have to think how you are going to use the car and
consequently
how big you want your left thigh to become. I never say never but I
doubt
whether I will go back to manual again. Its horses for courses and I'm
happy
with my set up.
Jeremy
Jeremy Llewellyn-jones
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Gareth
I prefer autos, I've driven manuals, and for my requirements an auto
suits me perfectly. Tis true, at the end of the day its personal
preference. I will also say that a few years ago in the Sahara the
group I was with had a serious problem with a manual gearbox, sincemthen
I stick with autos
Renate
Dyf, it is purely a matter of personal preference. We have two "camps"
here - the "stick shifters" and the "torque converters". Each group is
convinced they have the best product and some members of the groups
will
expand wonderful theories to back up their preferences.
Personally I don't think there is a bona fide technical arguement
either way. Each method of power transmission has its inherent
strengths
and weaknesses.
With regard to Toyota gearboxes per se, you will find a lot of info on
the auto boxes in the Birfield archives - did you take my advice and
have a look here ? Be aware that 80's have had various upgrades to the
auto boxes over the years. Familiarise yourself with the model numbers
and the years that they were fiited in Cruisers.
Having said that unless a previous owner has abused the gearbox or
never bothered having the oil changed it is unlilkely you will get
problems with them.
When searching the archives you would be well advised to pay attention
to any posts from - Rodney King of - I think - Wholesale Automatics or
Wholesale Transmissions in Australia. He has a wealth of experience
and
upgrades on the autos. Regard him as a Guru !!
Drive a few autos and a few manuals. Pick the system you prefer and
don't pay any attention whatsoever to the "opposing camp". At the end
of
the day it is your money not theirs.
Gareth Jones. Newport S.Wales.

 

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Renate - here we have a perfect example of Toyota offering two different
products. Two different people pick one of each - and go away
contented.
Joy and bliss on a Friday afternoon - as you can tell I have just had
my medication !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy.
Gareth.

 

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On Apr 1, 2005 12:26 PM, Renate Haupt <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I tried to stay away from this epic debate, but since my name has
cropped up ....
Shall we now move on to discussing other, less controversial subjects,
such as Marmite or the the theory of everyting ?
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80

 

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I'm a Marmite man - somehow Bovril just lacks a certain "je ne sais que"
- BTW have you ever tried getting a french person to eat Marmite - I
have several times - and failed each time !!
Gareth - off to France in a couple of weeks - a la Marmite.

 

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On 1/4/05 12:46, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
You did well Roman...and for some reason I weakened. Must be because I have
a cold.
Tell me, do you like Marmite? On toast? With or without butter? I
personally...
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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On Apr 1, 2005 12:56 PM, Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I like it ... well ... I prefer ... ehmmm......
Hell no! I'm not going to get you people started again! :-D
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80

 

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[CHAT]

Hey Gareth
Where in france are you going, is it a holiday or bussiness. I have never
tasted Marmite and dont think I want to either.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland

 

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I likes mi marmite... this probably tells all...
Renate
On 1/4/05 12:46, "Roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
subjects,
You did well Roman...and for some reason I weakened. Must be because I
have
a cold.
Tell me, do you like Marmite? On toast? With or without butter? I
personally...
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
--

 

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Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:16:28 +0100
Gareth Jones wrote :-
Reply-To: [Email address removed]
here - the "stick shifters" and the "torque converters". Each group is
convinced they have the best product and some members of the groups will
expand wonderful theories to back up their preferences.
Personally I don't think there is a bona fide technical arguement
either way. Each method of power transmission has its inherent strengths
and weaknesses.
With regard to Toyota gearboxes per se, you will find a lot of info on
the auto boxes in the Birfield archives - did you take my advice and
have a look here ? Be aware that 80's have had various upgrades to the
auto boxes over the years. Familiarise yourself with the model numbers
and the years that they were fiited in Cruisers.
Having said that unless a previous owner has abused the gearbox or
never bothered having the oil changed it is unlilkely you will get
problems with them.
When searching the archives you would be well advised to pay attention
to any posts from - Rodney King of - I think - Wholesale Automatics or
Wholesale Transmissions in Australia. He has a wealth of experience and
upgrades on the autos. Regard him as a Guru !!
Drive a few autos and a few manuals. Pick the system you prefer and
don't pay any attention whatsoever to the "opposing camp". At the end of
the day it is your money not theirs.
Gareth Jones. Newport S.Wales.<
How very well put Gareth.
Mik.
Co. Mayo Ireland.
1982 FJ40 Aussie Spec. 'Swagman'
1997 80 Series 1HD FT. 'Abe'

 

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I've kept out of this so far (I've a manual, AND I like marmite) but here is a bit of pot stirring:
I think the fact that you "... will find a lot of info on the auto boxes..." in the various archives, but not a lot about manuals, rather speaks for itself. OK, I know that the USA is virtually all autos - hence the frequency of posting - but the antipodean bunch are mostly manual.
The other indisputable fact is that manuals use at least 10% less fuel, and with oil supposedly heading for $100/barrel that has to be significant.
My 2p's (=3D approx 1 teaspoon of marmite) worth.
Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT
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| Personally I don't think there is a bona fide technical arguement
| either way. Each method of power transmission has its
| inherent strengths
| and weaknesses.
|
| With regard to Toyota gearboxes per se, you will find a lot of info on
| the auto boxes in the Birfield archives - did you take my advice and
| have a look here ? Be aware that 80's have had various upgrades to the
| auto boxes over the years. Familiarise yourself with the model numbers
| and the years that they were fiited in Cruisers.
|
| Having said that unless a previous owner has abused the gearbox or
| never bothered having the oil changed it is unlilkely you will get
| problems with them.