As above.... Iv had Both Auto and Manual 80's .... And many other different Land Cruisers with both Auto and Manual,..... Both are good reliable Boxes, early 12v Manuals had niggling issues with gear changes....... But this was rectified with the later 24v...... My 80 series 24v has 333,000 on the clock and the Manual Gear box is still tight and smooth.. If i was in the market for buying an 80 series i wouldn't care what Box it had in it... the rest of the Truck is more important..... Its personal preference..... I like both