Big end rumours

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Hi Anwar
There is truth in the warnings, my BEB decided to go about four years ago now and cost a hell of a lot of money, a near divorse and a lot of thinking how the hell will I pay for this.
My advice is to get them checked and replaced if need be.
Its a lot cheaper to do this before it actually decides to go.
Also a lot seems to depend on the oil that is used from early days.
It seems to only effect the earlier engines up to 94 I think and then after that they seem to be fine.
After learning about this after the fact I decided to use the best oil that I could not afford to use and leave my faith in the oil analisis from there on

cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
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Subject: [ELCO] Big end rumours
Hi List
I've been hearing nasty rumours about premature big end failures and wondered how much substance there was to this. Toyota UK and friendly dealers have never heard of this and yet some websites consider it a service item. Do any of you have experience of failed BeBs please?
Anwar '91 Imported VX limited 4.2 1HDT
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Yes there is a big end bearing issue predominantly with pre 1995 80
series LCs with the 4.2 TD engine.
THe recommendation is to replace them every 100,000miles just in case,
although many engines have done two or three times that amount without
problems.
The risk is that when they go completely you end up having to replace
the engine.
Have a look at http://www.lcool.org and follow the links to the 80
series technical pages for a bit more reading on the issue.
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Julian
Thank you for v useful site for a cruiser owner. I'd be interested to know
of any problems European owners have had with BeB's and whether any one
who's replaced them found damage. I'm carrying out a risk assessment as I
currently have neither the time to do it myself or the money to apy for the
bearings to be done - my car has about 135000 kilometers on it. However, if
a broken engine is on the cards I'll have to find cash or time. Thank you
for your help
Anwar
 
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Thanks John
Toyota want ?550 to check the bearings, but, much as previous experience
taught me to trust main dealers will have to shop around for reputable
import specialist. New engine would be out of the question.
Regards Anwar
 
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Hi Anwar
Thats a lot of money just to check the bearings.
As far as I know all they have to do is take the drain pan off and they can
see what is what.
Now thats what I can remember from my job ,when they showed me the damage
done to my engine.
Ill be corrected if im wrong im sure.
I checked the cost of buying from Toy and it was not that much to buy the
shells and then maybe a few hours to fit, but ?550 just to check, dont think
so.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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A friend and I recently had the big ends checked on 3 1HDT's. Two were
fine and didn't need doing, one was living on borrowed time.
Bad shell after aprox 130k miles
http://www.mudtoys.com/temp/DSCF0002.jpg
It's a 2-3 hour job with a lot of that time being spent cleaning the old
sump gasket material off.
Jon.
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Subject: [ELCO] Big end rumours
Hi List
I've been hearing nasty rumours about premature big end failures and
wondered how much substance there was to this. Toyota UK and friendly
dealers have never heard of this and yet some websites consider it a
service item. Do any of you have experience of failed BeBs please?
Anwar '91 Imported VX limited 4.2 1HDT
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Hi Jon,
A textbook example of a sub surface fatigue failure.
Cheers,
Craig.
Jon Wildsmith wrote:
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> A friend and I recently had the big ends checked on 3 1HDT's. Two were
> fine and didn't need doing, one was living on borrowed time.
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> Bad shell after aprox 130k miles http://www.mudtoys.com/temp/DSCF0002.jpg
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> It's a 2-3 hour job with a lot of that time being spent cleaning the
> old sump gasket material off.
>
> Jon.
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Craig,
Been on holiday and catching up on emails. Interested in the photo of the
bearing, there seems to be quite a lot of material left on the bearing so
what caused the failure? I am guessing the bearing has overheated, perhaps
due to a lack of oil? Alternatively could it have been started by
corrosion?
Jon, what were the other shells like?
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford, UK
1975 FJ45 Pickup (In Work)
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Hi Jon,
A textbook example of a sub surface fatigue failure.
Cheers,
Craig.
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Malcolm Bagley said:
They had black spots that looked like they would turn into holes given
time but otherwise were ok.
Jon.
 
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