Fuel additives - the answer

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Friends, at the risk of stirring the hornets nest again.
I now ask myself if I should buy a bulk supply of my favoutite 'ABRO'
diesel additive to bring to UK with me, to keep me going. ( It costs about
=A31.75 to treat 70litres). Or do I buy additive in UK ?
My Pajero is only used sparingly in UK and I have a Q8 station next to the
marina where we live, so always fill there. But I buy 'expensive' RED X or
similar to keep things sweet. So for the 80 should I buy in UK and did we
decide that for pump lubricity Millers Dieselclean was best, RED X, Wynns,
STP, or some other stuff. But the 80 is used to having additive every time
and that is with 'D2' fuel, and not the nice bright sparkling low sulphur
stuff you all enjoy using - which also gives problems with older pumps.
Alternatively, do I follow the advice of the Telegraph's 'Honest John' and
buy quality fuels from Shell/BP/Texaco which allegedly have all the right
additives plus other benefits using their 'quality' fuel.
Its confusing for a foreigner like me.
Cheers
Jon
'92 HZJ80 ex UN surplus in Bosnia - where fuel reached 54.57 pence a litre
last week-end. Pleased to see its a tad cheaper at the end of the week. Its
a bit more in UK I believe!
 
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Jon,
I have recently looked in to fuel additives following my pump
disaster. Using a good supply of fuel is part of the solution. I was
also advised to use a fuel additive for lubrication of the pump. This
additive does not need to be put in at every top up, every 2500/3000
miles is alright as the lubrication hangs around in the system for a
long time.
Regards, Clive.
On Apr 9, 2005 7:04 AM, toy80 <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 09:37:39 +0100
Clive Marks [Email address removed] Wrote :-
disaster. Using a good supply of fuel is part of the solution. I was
also advised to use a fuel additive for lubrication of the pump. <
Any particular additive recomended to you Clive ?
Mik Kenney, (Cruisermik).
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Mik,
The garage I went to with the fuel pump use 'Forte' diesel fuel
additive. They put it in to every diesel that they service. I think
that you would be alright with any well known brand but get one that
says it is for lubrication, they do not all say this so I must assume
they don't all do it.
Regards, Clive.
 
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Personally I use millers diesel additive
Not easily found though but apparently it does increase mpg and it cleans
the engine
When I ran out of it and had to run on a tank or two without it I did
notice.
I buy from a local garage near me (south lancs)
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Sent: 09 April 2005 20:27
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Fuel additives - the answer
Mik,
The garage I went to with the fuel pump use 'Forte' diesel fuel
additive. They put it in to every diesel that they service. I think that you
would be alright with any well known brand but get one that says it is for
lubrication, they do not all say this so I must assume they don't all do it.
Regards, Clive.
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Dyfed,
This was my point. I am not as interested in MPG or cleaning the
engine as much as lubricating the pump. Mine just cost me enough to
buy a secondhand engine so my priorities have changed.
Regards, Clive.
On Apr 9, 2005 8:32 PM, Dyfed Bowen <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Go to
www.millersoils.net
Click on fuel additive and select diesel power plus
Its what I use
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Sent: 09 April 2005 21:47
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Fuel additives - the answer
Dyfed,
This was my point. I am not as interested in MPG or cleaning the engine
as much as lubricating the pump. Mine just cost me enough to buy a
secondhand engine so my priorities have changed.
Regards, Clive.
On Apr 9, 2005 8:32 PM, Dyfed Bowen <[Email address removed]> wrote:
don't all do it.
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Clive wrote...
I have recently looked in to fuel additives following my pump
disaster. Using a good supply of fuel is part of the solution. I was
also advised to use a fuel additive for lubrication of the pump. This
additive does not need to be put in at every top up, every 2500/3000
miles is alright as the lubrication hangs around in the system for a
long time.
SNIP..
Thanks Clive. So it looks like I best forget the Q8, forget the extra Tesco
points too, go for the good brands, and put in a bottle every third tank
say. So if you are still using an additive occasionally, which do you use
please?
Thanks
Jon
'92 HZJ80 ex UN surplus in Bosnia
 
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Jon,
I would like to use 'Forte' but I couldn't get hold of any on the
day so I used Wynns. I will probably get a supply of the former and
stick to that. I don't think it matters much what you use as long as
it provides the lubrication. One of my sons is using the Redex one.
I would definately agree with the useing godd brands of fuel.
Regards, Clive.
On Apr 10, 2005 7:56 AM, toy80 <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Thanks Clive,
I have used Forte Diesel Additive for a few years now.
I don't use it as often as that though, after all, last time I bought some,
it was in the region of ?10 per treatment.
I put in a bottle about once or twice a year, this seems to make all the
difference and prevents or removes that coating of 'varnish' which builds up
on injectors and in combustion chambers.
It makes a big difference to the engine emisions and can often turn an
M.O.T. failure into a resounding pass.
I'm not usualy impressed by engine additives, but have no hesitation in
endorsing Forte to anyone who asks.
Mik Kenney, (Cruisermik).
82 FJ 40 Series, Australian Spec. 'Swagman' Undergoing Serious Mods.
97 80 Series 1HD FT. 'Abe' 2" O.M.E. And Further Plans.
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What about their classic diesel oil - any good?
Ian.
Dyfed Bowen wrote:
 
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Ive used millers xmd and xfe, both are good
Xfe is synthetic iirc though, 5ltrs bout 20 quid I think
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Sent: 10 April 2005 20:21
To: [Email address removed]
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Fuel additives - the answer
What about their classic diesel oil - any good?
Ian.
Dyfed Bowen wrote:
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I use Acetone in my 80 as my additive with positive results!
( I hear you say I'm nuts )
Check out the data and tests that have been done .......you may consider
giving it a go :)
http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive
Cheers
Marek
Sydney
Oz
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On Apr 11, 2005 2:32 AM, Marek Wojak <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Hello Marek,
Why? I'd call it an overwhelming urge to experiment ;-). Just don't
forget to let us know after you've done 100k miles.
Just wondering, some people report 1% increase in fuel economy while
other claim up to 35%. If an additive is supposed to improve
combustion, does that mean that some engines are so efficient they can
hardly benefit from any additives?
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Marek, hallo to you
help me out here: all the testing speaks about petrol engines. What about
diesels? Is acetone for use in diesels and does it produce similar results.
regards
mike
 
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G'Day Mike
Acetone works well for both petrol & diesels
I myself have a petrol 80 Series and a mate has a diesel and we both
have been using Acetone for about 2 months with positive results.
Check out the following:
http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
On the graph the "D" curve is for diesel fuel
Diesel is also mentioned in the article ie:
"In a 10-gallon tank of gasoline, use one to three ounces of pure
acetone to obtain excellent mileage improvements. In a ten-gallon tank
of *diesel fuel*, use from 1 to 2 ounces of acetone. Performance goes up
too. Use about a half-teaspoon of acetone in the fuel tank of a 4-cycle
lawnmower or snowblower. Or you can apply it with an eyedropper".
"A tiny bit of acetone in diesel fuel can stop the black smoke when the
rack is all the way at full throttle. You will notice that the exhaust
soot will be greatly reduced and your truck or car runs smoother."
Hope this helps
Cheers
Marek
Sydney
Oz
[Email address removed] wrote:
>Marek, hallo to you
>help me out here: all the testing speaks about petrol engines. What about
>diesels? Is acetone for use in diesels and does it produce similar results.
>regards
>mike
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>>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:32:14 +1000
>>From: Marek Wojak <[Email address removed]>
>>To: [Email address removed]
>>Subject: Re: [ELCO] Fuel additives - the answer
>>Reply-To: [Email address removed]
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>>I use Acetone in my 80 as my additive with positive results!
>>
>>( I hear you say I'm nuts )
>>
>>Check out the data and tests that have been done .......you may consider
>>
>>giving it a go :)
>>
>>http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
>>
>>http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive
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>>Cheers
>>
>>Marek
>>Sydney
>>Oz
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>>mik. wrote:
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>>>Thanks Clive,
>>>
>>>I have used Forte Diesel Additive for a few years now.
>>>I don't use it as often as that though, after all, last time I bought
>>>
>>>
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>>>some, it was in the region of ?10 per treatment.
>>>I put in a bottle about once or twice a year, this seems to make all
>>>the difference and prevents or removes that coating of 'varnish' which
>>>
>>>
>>>builds up on injectors and in combustion chambers.
>>>It makes a big difference to the engine emisions and can often turn an
>>>
>>>
>>>M.O.T. failure into a resounding pass.
>>>I'm not usualy impressed by engine additives, but have no hesitation
>>>in endorsing Forte to anyone who asks.
>>>Mik Kenney, (Cruisermik).
>>>82 FJ 40 Series, Australian Spec. 'Swagman' Undergoing Serious Mods.
>>>97 80 Series 1HD FT. 'Abe' 2" O.M.E. And Further Plans.
>>>======================================>>>--
>>>European Land Cruiser Owners Mailing List
>>>Further Info: http://www.landcruisers.info/lists/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi Marek
thanks for the mail. As soon as i am ready i shall try this out. I have tried
quite a few things such as kerosene(lamp petroleum)with 2stroke oil at times
when there were diesel shortages or toluol/benzene in cold,high altitudes
but this really sounds promising. You are not worrried that eg. the pump
seal harden and eventually die? However lets see.
regards
mike
 
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Marek

Is that ounces weight (as in 28.4 grams) or fluid ounces (as in 28.4 ccs)? Acetone has a specific gravity of 0.785, so an ounce weight would be ~36 ccs.
Sorry to be pedantic, but at the concentrations suggested the difference may matter a bit.

(And it strikes me that a measure of volume would be a lot more convenient to measure into a tank.)

Christopher Bell
Devon UK
1996 1HD-FT
I myself have a petrol 80 Series and a mate has a diesel and we both have been using Acetone for about 2 months with positive results.
Check out the following:
<http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/>
http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/
On the graph the "D" curve is for diesel fuel
 
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On Apr 11, 2005 12:11 PM, Peter Browning <[Email address removed]> wrote:
it
I can remember acetone used to be sold in miniature bottles to be used
as ... nail varnish remover.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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