Got a lecture

[Gary820]

So we went for a day out, few lanes across the north York moors, over to Whitby for fish and chips in the wind and rain!!!

Sat in the 80 all eating lunch and some bloke knocks on my window, window goes down and he starts giving me a lecture on how I'm destroying the planet in my "stupidly big obnoxious 4x4" my reply was thanks for the compliment its taken a lot of work wife now in stitches and fuse lit for Mr Greenpeace!!

Asked him what is problem is and he spouted a load of nonsense about carbon footprints, emissions etc etc had to ask him to watch his language as my 3 year old daughter sat in the back, spouted about tinted glass at that point too!

Asked him what he drives....... a bloody Nissan leaf electric thingy
Didn't like it when I asked if his toaster will look as good as the 80 when it's 17 years old. Asked him about his carbon footprint for his car which will have a much shorter life span then mine.

This seemed to really get him going lol and he started again saying I'm responsible for the ice caps melting etc (surprised I got anything for Christmas I've been a naughty boy)

I stopped him there, told him my cod and chips is getting cold and seeing as not much cod around I wanted to enjoy it! Put my window up and left him boiling over!!!

I'm guessing his wife, was shouting at him telling him to leave us alone as she's sick of him having a go at people in 4x4's

Gave us a laugh tbh, he headed for my mate in his disco who just laughed at him and put window back up.

 

[chadr]

Some people need to wake up and smell the (fairtrade) coffee.......seems like he was a thoroughly obnoxious fellow, who's head was up his own (perceived to be environmentally friendly) rear!

 

[PETE BELL]

funny stuff I love it when some one has a go

 

[clivehorridge]

He should take a trip to Saudi or Qatar and preach to the "Bigfoot's" in that neck of the woods! See what concern they have for their "footprints".

 

[Doodle]

Perhaps he might like to see the damage that lithium mining does, for the batteries for his eco-mentalist box.

 

[silvercruiser]

What a pleb.

 

[Gary820]

It gave us a laugh. Even his missus having a go at him didn't shut him up.

My mate said we were prob asking for it from some extremist eco mentalist, both lifted on big rubber lol.

On the flip side we came across a group of walkers on a lane, one flagged us down so we expected an argument. Nope they'd got lost and didn't know where abouts they were on the map. They guessed we knew and they were in the opposite direction to what they thought!!! Worrying really.

 

[vrecha]

Funny, but then again also sad.
This world is filling up with fundamentalists. Wait a little more and the Muslim fundamentalists won't be your main concern.
Here is an example from my country, Slovenia:
A group of eco brainwashed fundamentalists organize gatherings a few times a year to ridicule and bully the drivers in all kinds of 4x4 vehicles.


And the group has even managed to get a financial support from the state ...

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I like your answers, Gary820. Have to remember them, they will surely be useful.

 

[Doodle]

Of course, the risk is that one day he berates someone who is even less tolerant than he is, and shortly afterwards will find his head being shoved up his own backside. Then he really will be talking out of his arse.

 

[Gary820]

He needed a sign like that today lol.

I quite often end up as lead vehicle on trips out (not as impressive as your trips out vrecha) so usually get the blunt end when people decide to have a go. I've got used to it so rarely rise to an argument just give sarcastic responses lol. Must start giving the maps to other people!!

 

[Gary820]

Of course, the risk is that one day he berates someone who is even less tolerant than he is, and shortly afterwards will find his head being shoved up his own backside. Then he really will be talking out of his arse.

One day he prob will knock on the wrong window!! If his language carried on I think my wife would've slapped him tbh.

 

[Gary Stockton]

pity you didn't video it and the lay a charge, just for the fun of it, or quote the relevant legal bits...

Verbal assault is not a legal term, that is to say that criminals do not get charged and appear in court for such matters.

That said, if by a person's words and behaviour they "put [you] in fear of immediate and unlawful personal violence" then that is technically an assault (Interestingly if they then lay a finger on you then that is battery, not assault)

Anyway, there are laws about the behaviour that you have described. For instance Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1988 says it is an offence to use abusive, threatening or insulting words language or behaviour with the intention of causing alarm distress or harassment. (That is clearly what happened in the incident that you described)

Also there is the harrassment act 1996 which covers similar points (but for this the naughty person has to "pursue a course of conduct" and also they have to know that they shouldn't be doing it.)

Borrowed from another site ...

 

[Paddler Ed]

So we went for a day out, few lanes across the north York moors, over to Whitby for fish and chips in the wind and rain!!!

Sat in the 80 all eating lunch and some bloke knocks on my window, window goes down and he starts giving me a lecture on how I'm destroying the planet in my "stupidly big obnoxious 4x4" my reply was thanks for the compliment its taken a lot of work wife now in stitches and fuse lit for Mr Greenpeace!!

Asked him what is problem is and he spouted a load of nonsense about carbon footprints, emissions etc etc had to ask him to watch his language as my 3 year old daughter sat in the back, spouted about tinted glass at that point too!

Asked him what he drives....... a bloody Nissan leaf electric thingy
Didn't like it when I asked if his toaster will look as good as the 80 when it's 17 years old. Asked him about his carbon footprint for his car which will have a much shorter life span then mine.

This seemed to really get him going lol and he started again saying I'm responsible for the ice caps melting etc (surprised I got anything for Christmas I've been a naughty boy)

I stopped him there, told him my cod and chips is getting cold and seeing as not much cod around I wanted to enjoy it! Put my window up and left him boiling over!!!

I'm guessing his wife, was shouting at him telling him to leave us alone as she's sick of him having a go at people in 4x4's

Gave us a laugh tbh, he headed for my mate in his disco who just laughed at him and put window back up.

Perhaps he might like to see the damage that lithium mining does, for the batteries for his eco-mentalist box.

I've done a block quote here, mainly because I'm feeling lazy...

As someone who studies Environmental, Agricultural and Resource Economics I suppose I have an interesting perspective on everything... and at the same time am quite a big contradiction (and provoke some good arguments at times)

I went to a conference on Mining and Sustainability and got chatting to someone there about vehicles, and they asked what I drove... a 20 year old, 12l/100km Toyota 4Runner.... they drove a Honda Civic Hybrid which at a couple of years old had dropped to 9l/100km. We concluded that in the whole life cycle my Toyota probably had a smaller carbon footprint than the Hybrid.

I've also argued that perhaps the Green Party's need to moderate their positions so that the groups that enjoy recreationally using the environment can come on board; until then there will be no incentive to follow any of their policies. Classic ones over here are the Hunting and Fishing parties, who would be seen as far away from the greens as possible, but actually there are some similarities in what they would like to protect. When I mentioned this to a lecturer at uni he looked a bit askance, and then once I explained it through could understand the (slightly perverse) logic, as they both want to preserve the bush, just use it in different ways.

There's also scope for the farmers to get on board, especially in Australia where the Coal Seam Gas mining is about to kick off in a big way, as is the continued mining of coal in high agriculture use areas (see the Hunter Valley, Liverpool Plains and the Gloucester area), but the Greens have such a bad image here that no one wants to align themselves with them.

It's all very nice have pretty things, but if they're locked up what is the value in them? I appreciate there is an intrinsic value in some things, but just because they exist doesn't mean that they are valuable, and if no-one else can be appreciate it then what is it's value to society?

 

[yogi]

Oddly I see that too on a regular basis. I have actually been to court as an expert witness AGAINST certain environmental/animal rights loonies. I also like to hunt (on horseback mainly), eat meat, farm cattle for slaughter and have an involvement in the horse factory trade too.

Having said that, I'm passionately against the crazy American style replace+replace/consume+consume thing we have going on nowadays. I like to grow my own food, we cook virtually every meal from scratch using fresh ingredients, harvest my own turf/firewood and virtually never buy anything new if I can at all avoid it (and that's not being a Scrooge, its just the way I choose to live).

I'm definitely no hippy, I would never support a leftist pansy green political party and yet I a lot of the life those spiteful tofu microwaving morons think they would like to live.

Go figure..............

 

[moggy1968]

I am massively impressed by your restraint!!
I don't think I could have kept my cool so well! Hypocritical, ignorant, self righteous toss bags like that annoy the crap out of me!!

 

[clivehorridge]

I get very p!ssed off with the short sightedness of most people. They say things which may on the face of it make some short term sense, but looking into the longer term effects, they are totally misguided.

The massive likely surge to nuclear power concerns me. Until they come up with a viable solution for nuclear waste, not a single new NP station should be built.

"Carbon Footprints" as they have recently become known as are again too limited in the way they're assessed. Massive production of batteries (as we know them today) are not a viable alternative and until they're sorted, battery powered machines should not be encouraged.


Sort out the technology first, then move forward. Stabbing in the dark on half developed theories is more dangerous than staying with what we've got. The incentive is there, technology can do it if enough effort is put into it.

However well or badly we treat this planet, human existence will only be a very narrow band on its "bar-code" and eventually it will be swallowed by the sun. We have a duty to preserve it and all life on it in the short term, but nature will out, eventually.


That's my ha'penny worth...

 

[froggy Steve]

YES! Well said

I am massively impressed by your restraint!!
I don't think I could have kept my cool so well! Hypocritical, ignorant, self righteous toss bags like that annoy the crap out of me!!

 

[frank rabbets]

There are too many people and the world is running out of resources. Even if there were no humans the world will end. Saving the planet is a bit like leaving your money to your kids. "If you don't go first class your kids will".

I think that bloke ought go and stick a cork in a volcano.

Frank

 

[Shayne]

Should have told him you had been out rounding up all the foxes and badgers to put them in rehab as they had been munching away and destroying Britain's largest pasture of wild growing magic mushrooms - i bet he would have instantly changed his tune and asked to tag along

 

[Andrew T]

I always ask their name and and where they are from to start, that usually puts them on the back foot.

If that fails, point a video camera or phone at them and record, that will give you the evidence for breach of the peace or slander.

but generally you are best to avoid escalation if you can as that always ends in tears.