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Rear tyre wear. Not Cruiser.

frank rabbets

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Come on brainy ones. I went for a ride in my friends crossover Maxda and heard what I thought was a wheel bearing. He's had the car from new and it's done about 30,000 miles. Mazda have said the rear tyres are "castellated" on their insides causing the noise. I agree it's tyre noise. He sent me a video of their findings. Well to me castellated is bullshit for scrubbed and to me it has to be a car problem not a tyre problem. Other makes are affected as well according to a google. Anyones thoughts ?
 
What brand tyres? Run flat tyres or not?
Tyre pressures set correctly including increasing for any extra load etc.
 
Seen it happen a few times on a number of vehicles, normally front wheel drive cars with old and fairly worn rear tyres. The rear tyres tend to misshapen like a fifty pence piece, you can feel it just by running your hand around the tyre. It's often the inner shoulder that deforms first.

A friend of a friend asked me to look at a Mazda 6 that had a terrible noise at speed that sounded like a wheel bearing, it had been in the garage recently for several lots of brake work (needed due to a seized calliper, which turned out to be a failed flexi hose causing the brake to stay applied) but the garage hadn't located the noise, but they had rebalanced the tyres!

One look at the rear tyres ran my hand round them and told him to replace them, as they were misshaped and also almost illegal, were perishing and one had a bulge in the sidewall. I was really surprised that the garage hadn't insisted on replacing the tyres.

The owner was due to do a 4hr drive that afternoon, and didn't have time replace the tyres, so he took a chance and drove at a reduced speed. Up in York the tyres were replaced with new, and on the return journey the car was smooth and whisper quiet.

Next time I saw the owner he shook my hand and thanked me very much, that noise had been driving him made for a couple of years, he nearly sold the car because of it.

I was more concerned that the brake hose had failed at 6 years old, and that he had no idea that family car had dangerous tyres.
 
Common on our company cars at work, VW Passat seem to be worst for it with the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tyre.
 
See it a lot btw, rwd, fwd, 4wd. Run flats with poorly maintained pressures are horrendous for it, especially wide low profiles. Goodyear and Bridgestone are the worst culprits we see.

Michelin pilot super sport like to kill the edges and make noises against the rims at parking speeds! Mainly on M135i models.

Continental and Pirelli are better but I'd take the conti (Run them on my car)

Tyres really aren't as good as they used be!!
 
Also typical on vehicles that get driven hard in the corners.
 
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Is it because of the independent rear suspension? Can't see it happening on a solid axle.
 
Probably because it doesnt do it on the Octavia, which is the same car as the Passat, but trailing axle instead of IRS. Although the Octavia has 16inch wheels not the 17 or 18 of the Passat.
 
I have seen this on a MK1 Octavia VRS as well, but they have low profile tyres, which were quite worn at the time and this particular car was being driven like it had been stolen most of the time. It was the inner edges that had misshapen.

This VRS currently has 320K on the clock on the original 1.8 turbo motor, the owner is a little easier on it these days!
 
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