Salisbury etc [chat]

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Jon
funny thing this, about being stopped for no particular reason at all -
this has happened to me on a number of occasions. I'm usually polite,
but I do wonder why they stop me. when i ask them why they stopped me,
"oh, we're just keeping an eye on things" and then make some lame excuse
about the headlamp being the wrong brightness, or the road tax sticker
is not suitably neoned and splashed over my windscreen for all and
sundry to see. Sometimes I think I might as well go AWOL just to give
them something to do....
they even positioned a 'copter over me recently, and tracked me all the
way through Bristol....now how nerdy is that? probably thought it was
stolen or something, or perhaps I was going just a little bit over the
speed limit...
Anyhow, being the proud owner of the only white LC in Bristol with a
snorkel, I do get checked out regularly by the coppers.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/06/04 08:00pm >>>
Julian wrote...
Note to Jon in Bosnia - we bumped into the Pajero club and sent your
regards. I think they got clobbered by the police for being in the
wrong areas and we issued with summonses - I would be interested to
know what happened in the end.
SNIP
Pajero Club nah never herd of em, sounds like a bunch of hooligans
pretending to be Toyota men :-D
Strange they had trouble if the local - and meticulous - JB was in
charge.
But if it was a Big fella in a SWB with an even bigger Wolfhound, then
I
would understand. Will keep you all posted on the consequences.
Pleased you all had a good time, and now you know the acheivement of my
little Paj careering round in the same conditions with water in its
headlights at the end of the day.
Cheers
Jon
'92 HZJ80 ex UN surplus in Bosnia - where I got stopped by the cops
today,
cos they felt like it - one said to the other (after seeing my wacky
number
plate) 'bloody hell you stopped a diplomat's car'. I said the usual -
'good day to you constabuille I trust you are well and you have caught
your
quota of villains today' . And he replied 'diplomatksa OK', and
saluted.
Lucky they did not see my illegal radar detector ! Bet that won't
happen
on the Plain !
 
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Renate
You are not the only LC owner in Bristol with an snorkel, mine is not white. I don't think I will take the heat off you though cos mine is not on the road most of the time. I know yours is around somewhere because folks say, 'I saw one like that the other day'. I am too busy right now to meet up but hope sometime in New Year, if you are free. I am just as in love with my car as everyone else but am being low key about it for now. When it has winch, roof tent , solar pannel, shower and drawers I will want to exchange ideas. My main next 'must have' is radio CD so I'd like to meet up sometime. I would have liked to made the Salisbury trip but was busy earing the money needed to pay for all this. Long distant tank and more lights than Vegas planned for next week.
I am from the, if it ain't broke don't fix it school of motoring, so I havent had much to add to discussions so far.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Salisbury etc [chat]
Jon
funny thing this, about being stopped for no particular reason at all - this has happened to me on a number of occasions. I'm usually polite, but I do wonder why they stop me. when i ask them why they stopped me, "oh, we're just keeping an eye on things" and then make some lame excuse about the headlamp being the wrong brightness, or the road tax sticker is not suitably neoned and splashed over my windscreen for all and sundry to see. Sometimes I think I might as well go AWOL just to give them something to do....
they even positioned a 'copter over me recently, and tracked me all the way through Bristol....now how nerdy is that? probably thought it was stolen or something, or perhaps I was going just a little bit over the speed limit...
Anyhow, being the proud owner of the only white LC in Bristol with a snorkel, I do get checked out regularly by the coppers.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/06/04 08:00pm >>>
Julian wrote...
Note to Jon in Bosnia - we bumped into the Pajero club and sent your
regards. I think they got clobbered by the police for being in the
wrong areas and we issued with summonses - I would be interested to
know what happened in the end.
SNIP
Pajero Club nah never herd of em, sounds like a bunch of hooligans
pretending to be Toyota men :-D
Strange they had trouble if the local - and meticulous - JB was in charge.
But if it was a Big fella in a SWB with an even bigger Wolfhound, then I
would understand. Will keep you all posted on the consequences.
Pleased you all had a good time, and now you know the acheivement of my
little Paj careering round in the same conditions with water in its
headlights at the end of the day.
Cheers
Jon
'92 HZJ80 ex UN surplus in Bosnia - where I got stopped by the cops today,
cos they felt like it - one said to the other (after seeing my wacky number
plate) 'bloody hell you stopped a diplomat's car'. I said the usual - 'good day to you constabuille I trust you are well and you have caught your
quota of villains today' . And he replied 'diplomatksa OK', and saluted.
Lucky they did not see my illegal radar detector ! Bet that won't happen
on the Plain !
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Tony,
Pity you could not join us yesterday. OK, you prefer the low key
approach and we are the exhibitionist types but we want to learn as
well. Which drawers are you planning to fit
- ready made or your own design?
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:09:01 -0000, Tony Steele <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Tony
At last! I am not alone! whereabouts in Bristol are you based?
My LC must also be the dirtiest....
I'm based in Kingswood, late of Filton by the BAWA. Been in Kingswood
for about two months now only.
So, come on then?! what colour is it? Safari Snorkels are good (in my
book for swimming and sand storms....)
I would have been away in Libya this December/January but had trouble
with getting ferries booked, so, yes, I'm in the UK unfortunately for
the duration.
I would love to meet up in the New Year, and am already looking forward
to it!.
People think I'm too fussy about what happens to my vehicle, and that I
worry far too much (which is true), but I've had my baby for 4 years now
and have finally decided to keep it until it falls apart, so am quickly
learning what I can about looking after it, AND doing courses at the
college where I work (City of Bristol, diesel maintenance, etc) - I
don't have to pay much for them because they come under "Staff career
development"
It was only due to Gareth in Newport and a few others on the list who
helped me adjust the goal posts for me and my Beast, which has been to
the Sahara (doctoral research) and into Europe (offroading).
I love Le Beast with a passion and even though its looking a bit long
in the tooth these days, I still love driving it. However I will say
I'm no mechanic expert so things have slipped rather over the last two
years or so 'cos I'm working approx 14-15 hours a day to pay for things
for it - last month it took my entire monthly salary and then some. Now
I have run out of money so am working overtime to make some recompence.
Look forward to meeting up with you
Renate
1hdt LRFT, TJM single spare wheel carrier, 2.5" lift, Heavy duty shocks
& coils, Snorkel, lge front bull bar for protecting the front of the car
from sharp jagged rocks in the Tassili (Algeria; Libya) and Tadrart
(Libya) (wanting new tyres, wheels, new GPS ('cos I lost mine...) , even
a solar panel, new heavy duty roofrack.
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 12:09am >>>
Renate
You are not the only LC owner in Bristol with an snorkel, mine is not
white. I don't think I will take the heat off you though cos mine is not
on the road most of the time. I know yours is around somewhere because
folks say, 'I saw one like that the other day'. I am too busy right now
to meet up but hope sometime in New Year, if you are free. I am just as
in love with my car as everyone else but am being low key about it for
now. When it has winch, roof tent , solar pannel, shower and drawers I
will want to exchange ideas. My main next 'must have' is radio CD so
I'd like to meet up sometime. I would have liked to made the Salisbury
trip but was busy earing the money needed to pay for all this. Long
distant tank and more lights than Vegas planned for next week.
I am from the, if it ain't broke don't fix it school of motoring, so I
havent had much to add to discussions so far.
Tony
 
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Hi Renate and everyone,
In time, one of the things I would like to see happen on the list is
that if anyone is about to do any major work like replacing the
Birfield, etc that they announce it on the list so that if others want
to come along to help/learn they can.
Many major jobs can be speeded up with an extra pair of hands, even if
they are inexperienced hands. None of the work on an LC is rocket
science so it should be easy to learn and gain confidence.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Julian
I did mention/ask a few days ago whether there was anyone willing to
lend a hand on my CVJ's replacements, there were no takers, because,
apparently it is a messy job.
I would have liked someone to help me as it would have made the job
easier, but as I said, there were no takers so its being done by a
garage 1) I don't have the tools 2) I don't have the expertise etc etc.
I will continue to ask the list members in the future to assist me with
jobs on the Beast but I'm not confident there will be anyone available
to assist me, so I'll probably be reluctant.
Not anyones fault, just that I feel isolated hence will do it through
my own ways.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 10:45am >>>
Hi Renate and everyone,
> so am quickly learning what I can about looking after it, AND doing
> courses at the college where I work
In time, one of the things I would like to see happen on the list is
that if anyone is about to do any major work like replacing the
Birfield, etc that they announce it on the list so that if others want
to come along to help/learn they can.
Many major jobs can be speeded up with an extra pair of hands, even if
they are inexperienced hands. None of the work on an LC is rocket
science so it should be easy to learn and gain confidence.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Hi Renate,
I think there is a big difference between finding someone to help you
when you have the tools, workshop space, skills, etc to do the job your
self and your situation where it sounds like you have none of the
above.
Your request would have been better phrased 'please could someone
replace my Birfields for me whilst I help and learn from you', which is
a lot to ask without some bribery like cash/booze (#6s).
If I had the time and had managed to sort out the workshop space that I
am after, would have been happy to help in exchange for a bottle of
whisky!
Ideally you need to either be like an apprentice when others are doing
stuff to their vehicles or have a situation when you both need stuff
doing at the same time and you follow what the other more skilled
person is doing - that way you do the work, but have the chance to
learn.
To start getting into working on your LC you need to get yourself a
manual (Haynes will do for beginners) and start building up a set of
tools. The key thing when buying tools is to try to get professional
sets (cheap stuff breaks easily, expensive stuff is generally covered
by a lifetime guarantee).
You should start off by getting the following (roughly in order)
1/2" Socket set
1/2" Torque Wrench
Set of open ended/ring Spanners up to around 24mm
Hammers - big lump one, rubber one, brass one
Good set of flat and Philip screwdrivers
Actually, rather than provide a full list here, it is worth looking at
the front of the Haynes manual, they provide a good list.
If you scour Trade-It you may well be able to pick up a pretty
comprehensive set of tools second hand - I have seen a full set of
Snap-On tools in a chest go for around ?300-400, when originally worth
around ?3000-4000.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Julian
Well, as intimated earlier on the list, 1) I'm a bit of a loner anyway and I don't want someone from the list to actually REPLACE them for me (apart from garages of course), I wouldn't dream of asking this kind of straight-out question - sorry. and 2) I'm a novice in all things List-like so don't phrase sentences as you may like to receive them.
I'm still learning.
The garage I'm taking the Beast to is allowing me to watch, I cannot assist because I'm not qualified and it would break H & S regulations, so I'm allowed to watch but not assist, sadly.
I would have loved the opportunity to spend time with another and have been "walked through" the experience, as it were, but this is improbable at the moment for whatever reason.
I'm quite sad that no-one did offer assistance, but I guess this is the nature of things. And I do have a comprehensive range of tools but have never used them, I have the Haynes manual plus another for reference (Toyo engine manual) I have sockets, spanners and wrenches, hammers, even a saw and blades and phillips screwdrivers and posidrivers, I have all of these plus a couple of torque wrenches, and oil filter tools, plus lots of "consumable" parts. I also have two 5 tonne bottle jacks - but this is the other problem - no-one has shown me how to use any of these tools, and me being me have never asked.
So, there it is.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 11:22am >>>
Hi Renate,
> I will continue to ask the list members in the future to assist me
> with jobs on the Beast but I'm not confident there will be anyone
> available to assist me, so I'll probably be reluctant.
I think there is a big difference between finding someone to help you
when you have the tools, workshop space, skills, etc to do the job your
self and your situation where it sounds like you have none of the
above.
Your request would have been better phrased 'please could someone
replace my Birfields for me whilst I help and learn from you', which is
a lot to ask without some bribery like cash/booze (#6s).
If I had the time and had managed to sort out the workshop space that I
am after, would have been happy to help in exchange for a bottle of
whisky!
Ideally you need to either be like an apprentice when others are doing
stuff to their vehicles or have a situation when you both need stuff
doing at the same time and you follow what the other more skilled
person is doing - that way you do the work, but have the chance to
learn.
To start getting into working on your LC you need to get yourself a
manual (Haynes will do for beginners) and start building up a set of
tools. The key thing when buying tools is to try to get professional
sets (cheap stuff breaks easily, expensive stuff is generally covered
by a lifetime guarantee).
You should start off by getting the following (roughly in order)
1/2" Socket set
1/2" Torque Wrench
Set of open ended/ring Spanners up to around 24mm
Hammers - big lump one, rubber one, brass one
Good set of flat and Philip screwdrivers
Actually, rather than provide a full list here, it is worth looking at
the front of the Haynes manual, they provide a good list.
If you scour Trade-It you may well be able to pick up a pretty
comprehensive set of tools second hand - I have seen a full set of
Snap-On tools in a chest go for around =A3300-400, when originally worth
around =A33000-4000.
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Hi Renate,
That's excellent news, the best way to learn. Very few garages would
be prepared to do this.
Don't take it personally. I have just checked back on the list to try
to find your request for help and don't think it was that clear - the
nearest things was a question asking how long it will take to do that
Roman responded to.
If you need help, post a clear and consice message to the list,
detailing the help you need, what you can bring to the party and
timescales for when you need it done by.
You should get some responses, even if none of the others on the list
can physically help you the chances are they will point you to
resources that will help.
Nobody showed me, I originally learnt as a child by pulling things
apart and then eventually got used to putting them back together.
Eventually I got a Haynes manual for my first car and went from there
and within a year was doing engine strip downs, rally preparation, etc.
Having said that I had the advantage of money to fund a well equipped
workshop and spare time during school holidays. 25years later it is
taking me a lot longer to get back to the same situation (I now have
the tools by no workshop at the moment).
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
 
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Hi Julian,
your too cheap!
Regards
Dermot Allen
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From: "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Salisbury etc [chat]
 
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Dermot & Julian
I think one bottle whisky per hour would be okay?!
I'll be trying to fix the exhaust today - again.
Sounds rather good on the A4174...but not good for the engine...
And anyway, there is always the future...
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/11/04 07:03am >>>
Hi Julian,
your too cheap!
Regards
Dermot Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Salisbury etc [chat]
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> If I had the time and had managed to sort out the workshop space that
I
> am after, would have been happy to help in exchange for a bottle of
> whisky!
 
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