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Julian Et al
Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place
where I could practice in the gold stuff.
Renate
 
Renate,
Yes it would. I can't however fail to observe that this country is
geographically challenged and the nearest gold stuff you in which you
can practice in wild abandon is ... errrr..... Tunisia?
People sometimes try playing on beaches, but that usually doesn't make
you popular with the locals and holiday makers, is only marginally
less messy than mud and if you end up in sea water you will have losts
of de-rusting to do in your spare time.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:30:39 +0000, Renate Haupt
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
Roman
What I meant was does anyone know where there is a rough sand
equivalent, like fine gravel, or some disused quarries or something
somewhere in the UK that could be requisitioned for a day for
off-roaders, and where one can take their own 80 and not have to hire or
use other vehicles.
If no-one knows of anywhere if you all prefer, I could try and make
some enquiries myself? Would anyone be up for this?
You don't obviously all need to vote, just so I can get an idea of who
would be interested, were an event like this could be planned.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 02:45pm >>>
Renate,
Yes it would. I can't however fail to observe that this country is
geographically challenged and the nearest gold stuff you in which you
can practice in wild abandon is ... errrr..... Tunisia?
People sometimes try playing on beaches, but that usually doesn't make
you popular with the locals and holiday makers, is only marginally
less messy than mud and if you end up in sea water you will have losts
of de-rusting to do in your spare time.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:30:39 +0000, Renate Haupt
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
>
> Julian Et al
> Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
> Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place
where I
> could practice in the gold stuff.
> Renate
 
Roman
Years ago I used to drive a trail bike over the sands at Middleton
Sands, Morecambe Bay in Yorkshire (I was 13 at the time...) there was a
definite problem with quicksand, bogging down and serious salt corrosion
- a mate's bike, mot mine.
I know about the risks of salt water and so don't take my Beast in
stuff like this, for obvious reasons. And hence I wouldn't expect
anyone else to chance their Beast in salt water. I was thinking more in
line of making enquiries to get an idea of the interest and whether
landowners/quarry owners might be prepared to negotiate for an event
like this.
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 02:45pm >>>
Renate,
Yes it would. I can't however fail to observe that this country is
geographically challenged and the nearest gold stuff you in which you
can practice in wild abandon is ... errrr..... Tunisia?
People sometimes try playing on beaches, but that usually doesn't make
you popular with the locals and holiday makers, is only marginally
less messy than mud and if you end up in sea water you will have losts
of de-rusting to do in your spare time.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:30:39 +0000, Renate Haupt
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
>
> Julian Et al
> Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
> Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place
where I
> could practice in the gold stuff.
> Renate
 
Worth remembering that any sand here in the Uk is going to be very cold and
often damp, not at all like the stuff of the desert. And temperature,
humidity and type of sand makes a huge difference to how it behaves under
the wheels. Also we tend not to get drifting dunes here, and salt flats and
so many more of the peculiarities of desert driving that the only place to
practice is... The desert. But then again Roman has already mentioned this.
jeremy
On 7/12/04 14:30, "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Julian Et al
> Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
> Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place where I
> could practice in the gold stuff.
> Renate
>
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
--
 
JLJ
So this is a resounding no then, even though I know the scores with
regards to sand?
Renate
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 03:09pm >>>
Worth remembering that any sand here in the Uk is going to be very cold
and often damp, not at all like the stuff of the desert. And
temperature, humidity and type of sand makes a huge difference to how it
behaves under the wheels. Also we tend not to get drifting dunes here,
and salt flats and so many more of the peculiarities of desert driving
that the only place to practice is... The desert. But then again Roman
has already mentioned this.
jeremy
On 7/12/04 14:30, "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
wrote:
Julian Et al
Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place
where I could practice in the gold stuff.
Renate
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
--
 
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Renate,
Once we established British sand is a poor relative of the Sahara
sand, the next best thing along the lines you mentioned would be an
open pit mine. There are different places used as a pay&play 4x4
sites but I've not heard of one within travelling distance convenient
for ELCO members that would offer sand. In all such places I've been
to there was shale, stones, clay, chaulk, lime, slate... but not
enough sand to get stuck in. May someone please correct me.
--
Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:19:59 +0000, Renate Haupt
<[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
Renate,

The only place I can think of with a reasonable amount of sand driving
is the army land often used for 4x4 events in Bordon, Hampshire. The
Sahara it ain=92t =96 as Roman and Jeremy have said the sand is usually damp
and presents no challenge at all to drive over, and there=92s plenty of
mud as well. There is an All Wheel Drive Club open day on the 27th of
December =96 about =A320-=A325 to play all day as I recall. You will probably
find a few of the =93guts and glory=94 element I recall you being concerned
about prior to Salisbury, but most participants are there to enjoy a
non-damaging day out at there own level. If my cruiser is fixed in time
I=92d be glad to meet you or any other listers there.

There is (was) a site called =91Sahara Sands=92 near Melksham =96 not too far
away from you, but it is a disused (empty) sand quarry and I remember it
being mostly clay and mud, and quite small.

All the best
Toby
=9291 HDJ80 snorkel, OME,



On 7/12/04 14:30, "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]>
wrote:
Julian Et al
Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place where
I could practice in the gold stuff.
Renate
 
Toby
Well, I'd be the last person to say anywhere in the UK is like the Sahara, because it obviously aint, as if it would be....
Thankyou for your input. I will check out some places anyway, just for the sake of it, as there might be sopme takers, one never knows
Renate.
>>> [Email address removed] 12/07/04 03:54pm >>>
st1:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }Renate, The only place I can think of with a reasonable amount of sand driving is the army land often used for 4x4 events in Bordon, Hampshire. The Sahara it ain't * as Roman and Jeremy have said the sand is usually damp and presents no challenge at all to drive over, and there's plenty of mud as well. There is an All Wheel Drive Club open day on the 27th of December * about =A320-=A325 to play all day as I recall. You will probably find a few of the "guts and glory" element I recall you being concerned about prior to Salisbury, but most participants are there to enjoy a non-damaging day out at there own level. If my cruiser is fixed in time I'd be glad to meet you or any other listers there. There is (was) a site called 'Sahara Sands' near Melksham * not too far away from you, but it is a disused (empty) sand quarry and I remember it being mostly clay and mud, and quite small. All the bestToby'91 HDJ80 snorkel, OME, On 7/12/04 14:30, "Renate Haupt" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Julian Et al
Any of you know a good place to sand-play?
Just interested - mud is okay but it would be nice to have a place where I could practice in the gold stuff.
Renate
 
You might find a bit in Hampshire, parts of which were seaside once so
in some places there is a lot of sand.
I know one place where there's a lot but that's owned by the military -
Longmoor Camp. I raced there a couple of months ago but have no idea if
it is ever open otherwise. It's right next to the A3; SU 80168 30572
There's a picture of the sand pit.: http://www.team-reme.co.uk/
Have also come across some patches on the motorbike whilst out green
laning somewhere round the Dorking area but I wasn't leading so couldn't
tell you where. We came across a few 4x4 but some of the lanes would
require a proper off road setup to be safe from getting stuck.
Ian.
Roman wrote:
 
It's probably more like the Sahara than mud!
Ian.
Renate Haupt wrote:
 
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