goodoldboy
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Capitalist democracy ? an oxymoron surely ? Giving authority to someone you haven't met to do what they like for 5 years isn't my idea of democracy. I've said before , more than once , that i share many of your concerns about the consolidation of power in the EU but my position is that Brexit won't address this - it's a frying pan/fire dichotomy , false IMO.Tell us something we don't know
Seems ironic though that while your dead set against capitalist democracy you seem to favour governance by those with absolute immunity to consequence
Soooooooooo , would this virus not exist were it not for capitalism ?
I'm sure we can all agree 100% that there would be no vaccine without the evil capitalist funds to produce it .
I'm tired of hearing people who voted for Brexit were fooled by lies so i will counter , sheep were herded blindfold en masse once before toward a bigger better brighter future and all they had to do was go with the flow , Scientists , journalists , the poorest and the millionaires either full on supported it or simply accepted with a don't rock the boat kind of attitude that Adolf's idealism would lead them to a wonderful new world . And he would undoubtedly have succeeded in creating his version of that world had he not become an isolated dictator in full public view .
Fortunately it never occurred to him that he could achieve so much more as a part of an unidentifiable group working in shadows with absolute immunity towards that very same utopia .
We did not vote for something , we voted in objection to going with the flow , we do not want the future the EU project dictates .
Would the virus exist without capitalism ? yeah of course but without intensive farming on a global scale the chances of it crossing into the human population would be lessened . Governments in the developed world with a few exception have put profit before health giving the excuse that we have to trade lives to avoid large parts of the citizenry becoming homeless and destitute - what a shit system. Even under the restraints of capitalism a fair few countries have done better than the USA & UK .Tiawan is a good example of what can be done.
" I'm sure we can all agree 100% that there would be no vaccine without the evil capitalist funds to produce it "
everything that Humans have achieved on this planet only needed two things - Humans and the planet. So are you saying that without profit no vaccine would have been produced ? a lot of research is done in publicly funded universities by folks who live on poverty wages whilst doing PHDs and Doctorates .But you are partly correct in that many life saving medicines are denied to the poor (and not so poor) because of the desire to gouge profit from humanities most basic needs - take a look at the problems that diabetics have in the USA.
I've asked you repeatedly to define the difference between unaccountable power in Westminster & in Brussels .You talk about " Hedge Funds, Investment Banks, Oligarchs the kind of people who don't like democracy " as if they don't exist in the UK & how Brexit will somehow bring some sort of gain for odinary folks by lessening the restraints on out rulers.
Your glorious leaders in the UK have spent 22 billion so far on track and trace - might as well given it to the KLF to set fire to - and that's without all the other billions handed out to their mates and your'e still banging on about getting away from an unaccoutable mafia ?