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Hi Christopher
Thanks for the info.
I was just wondering not so much about the change in diamater but in the
change of width in a tyre.
Say you were far from home like in Africa and you had a nice set of 285/16s
on the cruiser and you get two blow outs which uses up your two spare
tyres/wheels. Then you get another ripped tyre and you cant find 285/16s
anywhere. But you do find a tyre or two of roughly the same height to fit
the 16 inch rims but they are skinny, say 235s.
Now dont get me on the actual tyre size as im only using it as an example.
But how would this effect anything if it would at all other than look really
odd.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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John
I don't think a change in tyre width would make much difference. You
would get slightly different handling but, especially in rough
conditions, I don't think you would notice much. The only problem you
might have is if you try to fit a tyre that is much too narrow (or too
wide) for the wheel rims.
I did this with my last car: I went from the manufacturer's recommended
(185) to the next width up (195), on the same wheels, and I couldn't
tell the difference. (I did it because the tyre place had a set of five
of the next size in 8 ply that was cheaper than four of the "correct"
width in 6 ply, and the stronger tyres handled the towing better.)
I suppose if one axle had one set and one the other the point at which
you would provoke a skid might be different, so if you were driving like
a hooligan you might be a bit more likely to get into trouble. In the
UK it is illegal to mix cross-ply and radial tyres on the same axle
because of their different characteristics, but you are allowed to have
one axle all cross-ply and one all radial.
I remember an email last month stating the most common tyre size
available in Africa - wasn't it 255/16? If I were going adventuring I
would fit what I would be most likely to be able to replace. 235s on
285 rims sounds a bit dodgy to me, but maybe it would work - probably
better than walking anyway!
CB
|Hi Christopher
|Thanks for the info.
|I was just wondering not so much about the change in diamater
|but in the
|change of width in a tyre.
|Say you were far from home like in Africa and you had a nice
|set of 285/16s
|on the cruiser and you get two blow outs which uses up your two spare
|tyres/wheels. Then you get another ripped tyre and you cant
|find 285/16s
|anywhere. But you do find a tyre or two of roughly the same
|height to fit
|the 16 inch rims but they are skinny, say 235s.
|Now dont get me on the actual tyre size as im only using it as
|an example.
|But how would this effect anything if it would at all other
|than look really
|odd.
|john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
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Joaquim
I thought the Euro spec machines had an open centre diff, and the US
spec machines a viscous one, but I may be wrong!
Certainly from the behaviour of my truck I would say that there is no
"viscosity" in its centre diff, for example if (on a slight slope) I
plant the front wheels on mud and the rear on something solid, the
fronts will spin freely. I suppose it could be worn though.
But, as I say, I could easily be wrong! Any views anyone?
Supplementary question that has always puzzled me: why fit a viscous
centre diff when it also has a diff-lock?
CB
|Hi Christopher
|
|> The consensus seems to be that with fully open diffs, as we have in
|> Europe (ie no viscous centre coupling) different tyre
|diameters are not
|
|AFAIK all 80s after xx 1993 and/or all the ones with ABS have a
|viscous center differential.
|Or am I wrong on this?
|
|Regards
|Joaquim
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Fitting narrower tyres on a rim is a most dangerous practise, the
tyre is constantly trying to come loose while you are driving along.
Fitting a different diameter is going to give you a pig to drive. The
best bet is to carry a plugging kit, 285's will plug very well. This
is quicker than changing a wheel and safer than odd tyres. The other
option is a pressurised tyre sealant. The sealants work but usually
have you scrapping the tyre as fitting bays will not re-use it. The
sealant can also hide other problems. Plugging is the best, if a bit
dubious legality wise in the UK, still the best. (OK John, I'm
waiting).
Regards, Clive.
 
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Hi John,
I run on BFs AT 285/75/16 since march feb 07: after nearly 30 k miles, still
9-10 mm thread form the initial 15; mostly tarmac, with south europe "green
lanes" which is mostly dry, stony.
Total cost 4 new tyres 499 vat included at supertyres, maldon essex
01621-840100.
Hope this is helpful.
Merry Christmas
Stefano
hzj81 diesel
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Hi Guys
Do wider tyres or higher and wider tyres put too much strain on the drive/CVs etc or is it a case that it would not make a difference.
Is it always the case that the better the grip the quicker they wear because the compound is softer.
So if the BFG wear well is the compound a little harder and so a little less grip.
Im not talking about 35" or big brutes like that but say something like a 305/75/16 instead of the 285/75/16.
Has anyone had experience of Kumho or Marshal or Hankook tyres.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
----- Original Message -----
From: Stefano Passani
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: [ELCO] tyres
Hi John,
I run on BFs AT 285/75/16 since march feb 07: after nearly 30 k miles, still 9-10 mm thread form the initial 15; mostly tarmac, with south europe "green lanes" which is mostly dry, stony.
Total cost 4 new tyres 499 vat included at supertyres, maldon essex 01621-840100.
Hope this is helpful.
Merry Christmas
Stefano
hzj81 diesel
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Dendrite Clinical System Italia
Tel +39-06-86386322
Fax +39-06-86386323
e-mail [Email address removed]
skype passaniuno
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Hi guys
now is my time to ask:what does BT,AT,BFG stays for?
here we have winter and summer tyres,like Continental(probably the best of
all)Hankook,Bridgestone,Pirelli,Michelin etc...but no one mention
BT,AT....;-(
cheers
Lubo
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 8:11 PM, john byrne <[Email address removed]>wrote:
> Hi Guys
> Do wider tyres or higher and wider tyres put too much strain on the
> drive/CVs etc or is it a case that it would not make a difference.
> Is it always the case that the better the grip the quicker they wear
> because the compound is softer.
> So if the BFG wear well is the compound a little harder and so a little
> less grip.
> Im not talking about 35" or big brutes like that but say something like a
> 305/75/16 instead of the 285/75/16.
> Has anyone had experience of Kumho or Marshal or Hankook tyres.
> cheers
> john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Stefano Passani <[Email address removed]>
> *To:* [Email address removed]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2008 10:29 AM
> *Subject:* [ELCO] tyres
>
> Hi John,
>
> I run on BFs AT 285/75/16 since march feb 07: after nearly 30 k miles,
> still 9-10 mm thread form the initial 15; mostly tarmac, with south europe
> "green lanes" which is mostly dry, stony.
>
> Total cost 4 new tyres 499 vat included at supertyres, maldon essex
> 01621-840100.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Merry Christmas
>
> Stefano
>
> hzj81 diesel
>
> --
> Dr Stefano Passani
> Dendrite Clinical System Italia
>
> Tel +39-06-86386322
> Fax +39-06-86386323
> e-mail [Email address removed]
> skype passaniuno
>
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Hi Lubo
AT =3D all terrain 50%road 50% offroad or there abouts.
BFG=3D A brand name of a tyre BF Goodridge.
MT=3D mud terrain tyre mostly off road.
Good to answer a question than ask it as I usually do.
Happy new year
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
Hi guys
now is my time to ask:what does BT,AT,BFG stays for?
here we have winter and summer tyres,like Continental(probably the best of all)Hankook,Bridgestone,Pirelli,Michelin etc...but no one mention BT,AT....;-(
cheers
Lubo
 
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Hi John
is that AT also all seasons?mine are Cooper and I drive with them all
year,but they are very bad indeed ;-(
Happy New Year to you too!!!
cheers
Lubo
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM, john byrne <[Email address removed]>wrote:
> Hi Lubo
>
> AT = all terrain 50%road 50% offroad or there abouts.
> BFG= A brand name of a tyre BF Goodridge.
> MT= mud terrain tyre mostly off road.
> Good to answer a question than ask it as I usually do.
> Happy new year
> john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
>
>
>
> Hi guys
> now is my time to ask:what does BT,AT,BFG stays for?
> here we have winter and summer tyres,like Continental(probably the best of
> all)Hankook,Bridgestone,Pirelli,Michelin etc...but no one mention
> BT,AT....;-(
> cheers
> Lubo
>
>
 
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Hi Lubo
When you say are ATs all season thats a hard one to answer because most of use use the ATs for all year round driving and both on and off road.
I think the BFGs are liked a lot.
I am interested in finding out some answers before I buy in the UK now that the Euro is strong.
What is the road tax per year where you are on your cruiser.
cheers
john92HDJ80 1HDT
----- Original Message -----
From: Lubomir Kolev
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] tyres
Hi John
is that AT also all seasons?mine are Cooper and I drive with them all year,but they are very bad indeed ;-(
Happy New Year to you too!!!
cheers
Lubo
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM, john byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Hi Lubo
AT =3D all terrain 50%road 50% offroad or there abouts.
BFG=3D A brand name of a tyre BF Goodridge.
MT=3D mud terrain tyre mostly off road.
Good to answer a question than ask it as I usually do.
Happy new year
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
Hi guys
now is my time to ask:what does BT,AT,BFG stays for?
here we have winter and summer tyres,like Continental(probably the best of all)Hankook,Bridgestone,Pirelli,Michelin etc...but no one mention BT,AT....;-(
cheers
Lubo
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The BFG AT is All Season in a way, but not for winter roads. Off road
it's not bad in the snow, but on hard slippery surfaces it sux.
A winter road tyre has to be softer and have sipings. I just put on a set
of Yokohama Geolandar I/T-72. They are fantastic on the road. At least
after struggling with the Cooper MS winter tyres (They where not too bad
the first two years, but after 4 years the 7 year old Michelin LTX
original tyres were at least as good)
The best ones for winter roads in 31" size are probably these Yokos,
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z3 and Dunlop SJ6. There are also very good Nokian
and Conti, but then you have to go down a bit in size. Nokian has the
size in small truck version (or whatever they are called) but then they
are much harder and not so good on the winter road.
None of the good winter road tyres are particualrly good for off-roading.
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:29:37 +0100, Lubomir Kolev <[Email address removed]>
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Lubo, I can recommend checking the Tyre section in the Norwegian LC Club
Forum, at least if you can understand a bit of the local tounge.
http://nlck.no/forum/
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:34:11 +0100, Lubomir Kolev <[Email address removed]>
wrote:
 
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Thanks Ugo!!!!I'll do my best there...John-I do not know yet-I'll tell you
when the bill comes :-(
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:48 PM, UHu <[Email address removed]> wrote:
> Lubo, I can recommend checking the Tyre section in the Norwegian LC Club
> Forum, at least if you can understand a bit of the local tounge.
> http://nlck.no/forum/
>
> --
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> HDJ100, Auto, AHC, 2001; ex HZJ80
>
>
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:34:11 +0100, Lubomir Kolev <[Email address removed]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi guys
>> now is my time to ask: what does BT, AT, BFG stays for?
>> here we have winter and summer tyres, like Continental (probably the best
>> of all) Hankook, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Michelin etc...but no one mention
>> BT,AT....;-(
>> cheers
>> Lubo
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Hi Guys
Has anyone experience of the Kumho KL71 on and off road and how are they.
They are only 2 ply side wall is this an issue off road.
What is the problem with using these directional tyres, what happens if you
have 1 spare and it does not go in the direction of the other tyre.
Are bigger tyres more difficult to get unstuck in the mud when they get
stuck.
cheers
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Hi John,
Had a set on a hilux, brilliant off road, mud especially, but they are
quite soft compared to Coopers or BFG, so wont last as long.
Cheers,Tony.
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Hi Tony
So off road they are good and on road they are good because of the soft
compound used but wont last as long as say the bfg mt.
cheers
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Hi John,
Off road,the kumhos are excellent, but had a couple of vehicles here
this weekend on the new BFG KM2s, and they were superb. They also won
a best comparison in a mud tyre test in a 4wd mag in Oz, for off and
on road tests.
If you are looking for a mud, get a price for both, but seeing both, I
would now go for the new BFG.
Cheers,
Tony.
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