Tyres?

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Alright Julian
Re > where am I going
Exact route still subject to further research but mostly east coast
Tunisia 600 KM
Libya 1650 KM
Egypt 1950 KM
Sudan 1650 KM
Ethiopia 1500 KM
Kenya 1500 KM
Tanzania 1350 KM
Zambia 1550 KM
Botswana 1600 KM
Namibia 2000 KM
south Africa 2200 KM
Miscel @ 15% 2632.5 KM
Total 20182.5 KM
I'm expecting to encounter the following wet weather
Light rains in Ethiopia (Feb -April)
Hitting the main rain season in Kenya (March to June)
Hitting the main rain season in Tanzania (March - June)
Possibly hit a bit of Tanzania's wet season (Nov-April)
Possibly hit a bit of Botswana's wet season (Dec-April)
So overall I'm looking at possibly 3 - 5,000km of rain from a total of
20,000 km - upto 25% of the distance
Thats why I was toying with the idea of taking 2 spare MT's and running
4 AT's - swapping out 2 AT's for the MT's when I hit muddy conditions.
Sounds a bit off the wall but might work?.......
What do you think - stick them on the back where the load is and drive
on?
Niall
HDJ80 in prep

 

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Hi Niall,
The "Paddy Wagon", I haven't heard that expression in years, used to be
what the Black Maria's (Police Vans) were called, supposedly to round up the
drunken Irishmen on a Saturday night. I don't think that is true though,
after all Irishmen don't get drunk do they?
TTFN
Chas
London UK '94 1HDT 80 Auto, 109000 miles, Safari snorkel, Custom Winch
bumper + winch, and Rear bumper with spare wheel carrier
+ Ray Dadd Rocksliders
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From: "Niall Somers" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Tyres?

 

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Chas
The phrase "Paddy Waggon" was definetly born in London alright! They
were an alternative to the 67 bus to Cricklewood for many a drunken
spud!!
I had a few years over in London - came close but never made it into
the back of one - it was already full!!
We have the equivalent ovewr here now for Polish lads that get too much
of the good stuff into them - "Pole Vaults"
Cheers
Niall

 

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I'm pleased to see old traditions being kept up.
Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Niall Somers" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Tyres?

 

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Hi Tomaz,
Yes, I have had my 80 in a 100yard power slide on MTs and I wasn't
pushing it that hard.
I do prefer AT's to MTs but know what African mud can be like so would
think twice about it for the sort of trip that Niall is doing.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift

 

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Hi Guys

never replied before but for what its worth i run MT's on a 90 and 80 series in the Uk and spain and feel that you coment would scare any one away from MT's , i aslo run AT's on a 90 and 100 series in the uk and repect boths types of tyes and have never experianced the negative repsonce some of you seem to have!! for me the MT work out the better all rounder

regards> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:53:12 +0100> To: [Email address removed]> Subject: Re: [ELCO] Tyres?> From: [Email address removed]> > Hi Tomaz,> > > bottom line : mt and wet> > tarmac - very bad combination.> > Yes, I have had my 80 in a 100yard power slide on MTs and I wasn't > pushing it that hard.> > I do prefer AT's to MTs but know what African mud can be like so would > think twice about it for the sort of trip that Niall is doing.> --> Regards,> > Julian Voelcker> Mobile: 07971 540362> Skype: julianvoelcker> Cirencester, United Kingdom> 1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift> > > --> European Land Cruiser Owners Mailing List> Further Info: http://www.landcruisers.info/lists/
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> I do prefer AT's to MTs but know what African mud can be like so would
> think twice about it for the sort of trip that Niall is doing.
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> Regards,
>
> Julian Voelcker
Hello guys
just coming home from holiday!
am I missing something-what are 'AT' and 'MT' staying for?and for someone like me who doesn't care for off-roading but rather driving safe mostly in the winter when is snowing and icy any recommendations if you please?
cheers
Lubo

 

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Hi Lubo,
MT are Mud Tyres - therefore basically designed for use in Mud - see
http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/car_popup.asp?prodid=901.
Conversely ATs are All Terrain so designed for use on and off road -
see http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/car_popup.asp?prodid=897
The big problem with MTs on tarmac is that the large tread blocks are
noisey and because they are so hard, don't grip so well when on wet
tarmac or on ice/snow.
Ideally I would go for something like the BFG Traction - which is
essentially an MT tread tyre that has been Siped so they provide better
grip on wet tarmac and in icey conditions. The problem with these is
that they aren't avialable in standard LC sizes.
Siping is when you have the slits/cuts put in the large tread blocks -
it's pretty uncommon over here, but I gather it is more common in the
US and Canada to be able to get it done by a local tyre shop.
Stick to an AT tyre and possibly go for a narrower profile - something
like a 238/85/16 BFG AT or the BFG Traction TA (see
http://www.johncraddockltd.co.uk/car_popup.asp?prodid=16456 )
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift

 

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Hi Simon,
I guess from my point of view I tend to drive the 80 more like a car so
may push it a little harder than some.
I've had MTs and ATs on the two 80s I have had. If I was doing more
off road I would probably have MTs and be more careful when driving on
the road, however I spend less than 5% off tarmac and so it just isn't
worth it.
Running with MTs on wet tarmac I have to consciously drive a lot slower
than I would driving in the dry or driving on other tyres.
Ultimately I would aim to run ATs most of the time and then have a set
of extreme MTs - something like the Extreme Trekkers (or the cheap
remould equivalents) for times when I am likely to be doing a lot more
off road work - usually at winter time.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift

 

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Hi Simon,
I'm not saying that MT are impossible to drive on wet tarmac but my
point was that with MT on wet tarmac you have to drive slower (more
careful ...) since the grip is definitely not as good as with AT ... in
my opinion they are just more comfortable to drive.
regards,
Tomaz