WARM UP

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Jeremy wrote
"Wish I had heated seats... Takes ages for the car to warm up..."
If you have a radiator blind pull it down all the way and leave it shut until you see the first swallow return in the spring.
Landcruisers are way over cooled for our climate, this little "trick" allows my vehicle to warm up quicker. I actually run all year round with mine closed. I will probably go over to electric fans.
If no blind fitted make up some form of blanking plate.
Regards Gareth Jones - up to temp withinin 2.5 miles this morning.
 
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On 24/11/05, Gareth Jones <[Email address removed]> wrote:
ntil you see the first swallow return in the spring.
Alternatively, play in the (sticky) mud often and don't clean your
radiotor properly, does the trick too! ;-)
It's a great excuse too:
She: "Are you going to get car dirty AGAIN?"
me: "You do want to be warm, do you?"
Fred, warm in 2km...
 
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Thanks Gareth. I don't have a blind and have often thought of using seed net
or something similar. Does the blind blank off the rad completely?
Jeremy
On 24/11/05 09:58, "Gareth Jones" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones
Mob: 07831 458 793
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Re blocked radiator with mud - don't laugh too soon. This happened to someone last year when the mud was of epic proportions.
He failed to clean the rad and boiled his motor.
Gareth.
 
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Jeremy.
The blind on my '97 diesel, when fully extended, covers all but the top three inches - 75mm - of the radiator. So there is some airflow.
A sheet of 8mm plywood would do.
Gareth.
 
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I've been running with my rad blind about half way down for the last
1000 miles or so.
I'd say it is a little bit quicker to warm up, and that there is an
improvement in mpg too. Because I have to do a 5 mile school run in the
morning anything which improves warm-up time is going to have a
disproportionately large effect on my mpg, so don't get too excited on
that score!
I've had not the slightest sign of over-heating, but then I haven't done
any towing - and if I were to I'd be a chicken and raise it again.
Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT
| -----Original Message-----
| From: [Email address removed]
| [mailto:[Email address removed]] On Behalf Of Gareth Jones
| Sent: 24 November 2005 10:26
| To: [Email address removed]
| Subject: Re: [ELCO] WARM UP
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| Fred
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| Re blocked radiator with mud - don't laugh too soon. This
| happened to someone last year when the mud was of epic proportions.
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| He failed to clean the rad and boiled his motor.
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| Gareth.
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Chris,
Don't be a chicken !!!!
Still, it is better than being a turkey with Christmas round the corner !!
It is quite safe to tow with the blind fully down, I have done so for ages, in some hot weather, no problems at all.
Gareth.
 
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Hi Gareth,
Who was that?
Paul Mills did boil his engine in his LandRover on the way back from a
laning trip in Wales last year - but that was a LR!
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Gareth,
Who was that?
Paul Mills did boil his engine in his LandRover on the way back from a
laning trip in Wales last year - but that was a LR!
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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No need to apologise. We are both happy - and that is the main thing !
Keep away from the Paxo though !
Gareth.
 
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Gareth
I know, you've told me this before. I'm afraid I'm a typical engineer:
belt + braces + conservative design.
- our house extension had 3x the required thermal insulation, and we can
heat water in 3 different ways
- the house has two separate water supplies, a standby generator, and 6
linked smoke detectors with battery backup
- my headlight rewiring would probably carry starter current
- my computers are backed up two different ways
and so on!
I don't object to risk, but I want to know the odds (& preferably stack
them in my favour) - and unless I instrumented my cooling system I would
be scared all the time while exposing it to thermal stress.
I reckon the downside of potential over-heating far outweighs the
benefits of reduced warm-up time, so I'm going to stay a chicken -
sorry!
CB
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| Chris,
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| Don't be a chicken !!!!
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| Still, it is better than being a turkey with Christmas round
| the corner !!
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| It is quite safe to tow with the blind fully down, I have
| done so for ages, in some hot weather, no problems at all.
|
| Gareth.
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Hi Guys
I think I would prefare a colder engine than having one that is hotter . I
would be a nervious wreck waiting to see or hear my poor old engine getting
too warm and dieing on me.
We have already said previously that the dash display for the engine is only
so so, and with this in mind you would not know your engine is cooking
untill its like a dodo.
If the engine is over cooled great, brillient, fantastic, one less thing to
worry about.
Its the heat that kills all the parts in the engine not running cool.
If you cant get good heat from your heater you could get a direct hook up
heater to the battery. My heating is really crap and always has been, so
maybe thats the next little toy ill get for my cruiser to keep it nice and
warm, poor thing.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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Heater on mine is superb even in the coldest weather.
The temp guage always hovers in the middle of the range no matter what
the weather.
Pete
 
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| Heater on mine is superb even in the coldest weather.
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| The temp guage always hovers in the middle of the range no
| matter what the weather.
Mine too, on both points.
However Toyota have added "don't worry the user" logic to the
temperature gauge, so that it stays in the middle over a wide range of
engine temperatures, therefore it is not a good guide to actual
temperature.
In the days when our US brethren were more concerned with super-charging
their (petrol) machines to get more power, rather than with fuel economy
as now, there was much talk of adding instrumentation to give early
warning of overheating problems. As far as I know no one came up with a
solution to defeat the Toyota logic on the standard temp gauge.
In my official capacity as Elco chicken (thanks Gareth) I take more
notice of my oil pressure gauge which I find to be a better guide to
actual engine temperature (hotter =3D lower at given revs). However when
it is really hot you would have to be a philosopher of some merit to
distinguish between "low" and "zero" pressure on this when the engine is
idling.
Christopher Bell
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Christopher Bell a ?crit :
Christopher,
Something has been done, and seems to work. I don't know how direct it
would apply to our different applications, but it's probably worth a
shot if you're finding the temperature indicator accuracy is an issue.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=64252
Denis
 
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Hmmm...
My oil pressure guage doesn't seem to vary much, if at all either...
Pete
 
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Badly phrased....
What I mean is that of course it does vary depending on engine revs but
does not vary the range within which it indicates, i.e. it matches the
temperature guage - engine cold = higher pressure and vice versa.
Pete
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I'm too chicken to venture into that particular roasting
dish!
Christopher, you are making me feel bad !
Gareth.
 
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