What's all the fuss about CDL button?

[StarCruiser]

Experience and driving ability wins hands down over dumbed down modern 'have the computer take over' cars. Trouble is, not everyone knows how to 'drive' properly (in all conditions) these days.

 

[Julian T]

Experience and driving ability wins hands down over dumbed down modern 'have the computer take over' cars. Trouble is, not everyone knows how to 'drive' properly (in all conditions) these days.

Seconded.

 

[Shayne]

Seconded.

X3 i took my driving test 3 years ago in a car with an automatic handbrake , a wonderful invention all you have to do is lift the clutch suddenly and part way whilst in gear to release it , the inventor also does a line in chocolate fireguards and deep heat bog paper i think .

 

[Towpack]

Experience and driving ability wins hands down over dumbed down modern 'have the computer take over' cars. Trouble is, not everyone knows how to 'drive' properly (in all conditions) these days.

I certainly wouldn't call an 80 series with ABS, a VC and/or difflocks either modern or computer controlled. A VC gives superior traction on slippery roads, as does ABS shorten stopping distances on the same, period. They are aids and should be regarded as such but they are there and they work wether you're a novice driver or been driving for decades.

 

[Towpack]

X3 i took my driving test 3 years ago in a car with an automatic handbrake , a wonderful invention all you have to do is lift the clutch suddenly and part way whilst in gear to release it , the inventor also does a line in chocolate fireguards and deep heat bog paper i think .

Do you mean the "hill start assist" that many modern vehicles have these days which applies the brake at a standstill in first gear with the clutch pressed?. Even the Transit I drive at work has it and I find it quite useful even though a 'manual' handbrake hill start presents no challenge but it's an aid so why not use it?

 

[Dave2000]

X3 i took my driving test 3 years ago in a car with an automatic handbrake , a wonderful invention all you have to do is lift the clutch suddenly and part way whilst in gear to release it , the inventor also does a line in chocolate fireguards and deep heat bog paper i think .

Took my driving test 39 years ago in an Escort popular, all the mod cons...steering wheel, seats.............

A couple of years later I was running a V6 Anglia and V8 Escort Mk1, NEITHER of them went particularly well in the ice!

regards

Dave

 

[Chas]

ABS for me, on my way to Lincomb on Saturday exiting a slip road onto a motorway I was following a car then glanced to my right to see oncoming traffic, on looking back this bloody car instead of matching Mway speeds decided to brake, it was a stand on the brakes moment then ABS took control and accident avoided.

 

[Dave2000]

ABS for me, on my way to Lincomb on Saturday exiting a slip road onto a motorway I was following a car then glanced to my right to see oncoming traffic, on looking back this bloody car instead of matching Mway speeds decided to brake, it was a stand on the brakes moment then ABS took control and accident avoided.

I think this is where ABS shines. When a driver with lots of experience is driving within in his own limits and that of his car, he can pretty much do what he likes with it but, as I have said before, it is the OH MY GOD I NEED TO STAND ON THE BRAKES moment, where you are already braking before the sentence is complete. This scenario is rarely created by someone concentrating, it is pretty much always put into motion by a less experienced driver you know, the driver who does something completely unexpected, of course we tend to relax as we drive but ECU's don't, they are ready even if we are not.

regards

Dave

 

[chapel gate]

I certainly wouldn't call an 80 series with ABS, a VC and/or difflocks either modern or computer controlled. A VC gives superior traction on slippery roads, as does ABS shorten stopping distances on the same, period. They are aids and should be regarded as such but they are there and they work wether you're a novice driver or been driving for decades.

I think sc was refering to post 40. But seeing as these aids are provided by the manufacturer, and in theory should perform better, therefore they must be better, even though some people may have experiences to the contrary, period....

 

[clivehorridge]

Well, I've learned something this weekend, thanks to Andy CGL.

No VC in my TF, got the tape out today and 17" it is.

So, no ABS, no VC, just the 3 lockers.

I passed my test 44 years ago (yesterday to be precise) in a Ford Escort, rear wheel drive.

I learned to drive in a 30 cwt van, crash box, then learned to take a test in the new escort. I can still remember how light the gears felt!

All my cars were rear wheel drive, until I bought a fwd Escort Ghia. But my buddy had a 1071 mini that we used to rally so I soon got the hang of fwd.

4x4s came later for me, SWB land rovers first, on the construction site. Worked well, and in those days (early 70s) they weren't made of chocolate.

I love driving, always have, no matter what it is I'm driving. These days the bigger and truckier the better

 

[Shayne]

Do you mean the "hill start assist" that many modern vehicles have these days which applies the brake at a standstill in first gear with the clutch pressed?. Even the Transit I drive at work has it and I find it quite useful even though a 'manual' handbrake hill start presents no challenge but it's an aid so why not use it?

It wasn't an optional extra it was the only way to release the handbrake it was counter intuitive especially at close quarters and i hated it . I never had a licence because i didn't need one , i preferred motorbikes and where i'm from there was no licence requirement for diggers , tractors , forklifts , dumpers anything with one seat (i guess they changed the law somewhere along the line but nobody cared) and nobody questions someone jumping out of an 8 tonne digger into the works van to go down the chippy . I honestly can't remember the first thing i drove on the roads but i was certainly several years too young to be legal and the first driving lesson i ever had was the day before my test 3 years ago .

 

[Dave2000]

maybe i dont have a vc then. the cdl transforms how mine performs in snow. now all three locked is a different story, its like trying to control a giant snake, good fun though, and has got me out on a few occasions..

heres our drive most winters;View attachment 22711

Here you go Mike

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rove...009910?hash=item280b768a76:g:uvsAAOSwo0JWLRqr

Regards

Dave

 

[clivehorridge]

Here you go Mike

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rove...009910?hash=item280b768a76:g:uvsAAOSwo0JWLRqr

Regards Dave

Wow, I could use that attachment!

EDIT : The yellow one I mean...

 

[StarCruiser]

The silver one would be a bit of a millstone and attached by tow strap more often than not!

 

[chapel gate]

Thanks dave, the gf has started asking what i fancy for Christmas. ..

 

[Chas]

Thanks dave, the gf has started asking what i fancy for Christmas. ..

I had a GF once who said "I know what he wants but I don't know how to wrap it"

 

[Steveindar]

I had a GF once who said "I know what he wants but I don't know how to wrap it"

No imagination...! Hence ex-girlfriend no doubt.

 

[Shay Marriott]

Hi all, apologies for resurrecting an elderly thread, but I was wondering whether a 1994 ABS equipped manual 80 Series would have a VC? I've been looking online for hours and can't find a proper answer... Seems most of the mention of VCs are on Mud where all the cars were auto and no mention of manual gearbox versions. Thanks!

 

[Towpack]

The VC was fitted from ‘92> to vehicles with ABS. The VC equipped transfer box has the HF2-AV designation. This will be on the box itself somewhere.

 

[Shay Marriott]

The VC was fitted from ‘92> to vehicles with ABS. The VC equipped transfer box has the HF2-AV designation. This will be on the box itself somewhere.

Thanks for the quick reply Towpack.