Thanks Bhutan, yes more confusion! I am actually back to considering a 120 after someone said the pre 2004 100s were not as good as post 2004 100s, and I can't afford one of those. the 120s are cheaper to buy, not my ultimate dream car and not quite the tank of an Amazon 100, but i need to get one sorted fairly quickly and the 120s seem to have plenty of good reviews for reliability and comfort, and seem better on fuel than the 4.2 100s.