Ball joints.......

[froggy Steve]

Genuine Toyota at 150€ a side or these..... @165 each?????? the genuine ones have been on 17 years, and I am changing 'just in case' the greasable ones should be easier to look after.....
What do you fellow 90 owners think?

 

[grantw]

always always genuine when there is a choice

 

[diggerdave]

I like the idea of greasable ones, but given the similarity of the prices I would choose Toyota as being of guaranteed quality

 

[froggy Steve]

The alternatives are 'heavy duty' improved specs over original parts.........if that means someone has stuck a grease nipple in a 555 Chinese made ball joint I am going with toyota!

 

[froggy Steve]

done, genuine yota but there is a 2 week delay on l/h side no problem....I hope

 

[diggerdave]

Big saving via Amayama - I'm being quoted £47 for a genuine Toyota ball joint from Japan
https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/4333039415?region=172

 

[diggerdave]

Big saving via Amayama - I'm being quoted £47 for a genuine Toyota ball joint from Japan
https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/4333039415?region=172

Sorry, sent that a bit late!

 

[froggy Steve]

lol, never mind - I will get some more stickers from euro 4x4

 

[Shayne]

I changed mine for the first Romania trip so three years ago , and i've just discovered i think i should change them again . Trouble is i don't have time before this years trip to get them anywhere but from Roughtrax again .

 

[Beau]

Why the need to change them again Shayne? Best thing to do is inspect for play regulary. These joints don't go from 100% to broken in a matter of days or weeks. I checked mine which are original with 210,000 miles and there's no play whats so ever, so I'm not bothering replacing them

 

[Shayne]

Only because I was on the floor having bled brakes when i let the jack down i noticed the lower ball sort of drop back into itself so i jacked it back up again and there's about a half inch of up/down movement in the ball before the tyre lifts ?!?

 

[Beau]

Oh, that's not good! That's the problem with aftermarket Lower ball joints. Out of all joints that is the most fatal if it fails and is worth going to Toyota for!

 

[Shayne]

Looking at it specifically again today and i think it might be an optical illusion , the other side sort of twists as the wheel comes into contact with the ground , perhaps the rubber is sat just so making it appear to be up/down movement ?

 

[Danny b]

Looking at it specifically again today and i think it might be an optical illusion , the other side sort of twists as the wheel comes into contact with the ground , perhaps the rubber is sat just so making it appear to be up/down movement ?

Measure the gap, then bottle Jack lifting from wishbone until wheel off the ground, remeasure. I have 1.2mm in 1 side and 1mm on the other so going to change mine. Think 0.5mm is expected.

 

[goodoldboy]

The trouble is that if they are seized there's no play.As Danny said 0.5 is the tolerance & the workshop manual recommends the play is checked using a dial test indicator. Mine were checked the week before this happened with the traditional "mechanic giving it some grief with a crowbar method" & pronounced fit. I changed all four & the O/S lower was fecked.Ive used roughtrax but would go for original if availability or price wasn't

a problem

 

[Danny b]

The trouble is that if they are seized there's no play.As Danny said 0.5 is the tolerance & the workshop manual recommends the play is checked using a dial test indicator. Mine were checked the week before this happened with the traditional "mechanic giving it some grief with a crowbar method" & pronounced fit. I changed all four & the O/S lower was fecked.Ive used roughtrax but would go for original if availability or price wasn'tView attachment 131472 a problem

Looks like you was lucky and no body damage occurred? Mine just survived 3 days laning in mid Wales but definitely changing them soon.

 

[Shayne]

The ball joints buggered but not because of a quality issue , the trouble is i paid professionals to fit them and the ass wipes used no grease at all ffs . Bone dry the both of them

Passenger side hasn't been effected but the boot on drivers side was filled with muddy grit acting like sandpaper so a new one arrives from Roughtrax tomorrow and will be fitted by an amateur - please see my signature .

 

[Beau]

I thought the ball joints come pre-filled with grease?

 

[MarkW]

I thought the same Beau

 

[Shayne]

They come wet but the boot is not filled so of course if you bury it there's a void to fill and once the crap is in there it aint getting out .