Draper Air bag jacks

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Has anyone here any experience with the Draper air bag jacks, they seem
very cheap/good value, a bit of the old 'too good to be true' pricing
so am wondering if anyone here has used them.
Also, any other recommendations for makes?
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Julian Voelcker
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Julian,
I have one. It wont work on the cruiser because of the tail pipe
shape, the 45 deg. cut off blows the pipe off the exhaust. The exhaust
would need to be cut straight and an adaptor for a larger bore exhaust
bought before it would be in with a chance. I lost interest. It does
look like a well made bit of kit. I would cut two 3/4" pieces of ply
to go top and bottom for 'feel good', it does look as if it would lift
the cruiser. If the hose comes off you can get black really quickly,
as I found out.
Regards, Clive.
 
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I had one years ago and it was fine on family sized saloons, but I've never
tried it on something the size of a Cruiser.
TTFN
Chas
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From: "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:30 PM
Subject: [ELCO] Draper Air bag jacks
 
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I've used a Draper several times without problems. When you put the pipe
on & off the exhaust do it slowly, if you try to do it quickly you'll
get black hands, especially taking it off.
Best regards,
Jon.
 
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Hi Jon,
Out if interest, did you have problems with fitting it on the end of
the exhaust, or do you have a non standard exhaust?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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The first time I used it I'm reasonably sure was on a standard exhaust
but after that it was on my none standard exhaust. I replaced my Draper
with a bigger & better one a couple of years ago so I can't check for
you. Just make sure you've a hack saw handy and you'll be ok ;-)
Best regards,
Jon.
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] Draper Air bag jacks
Hi Jon,
Out if interest, did you have problems with fitting it on the end of
the exhaust, or do you have a non standard exhaust?
 
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Hi Jon,
What one do you have now?
Also out of interest what did it cost?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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I've searched my memory and computer but can't come up with a make. I
know they made lots of different sizes and had International in the
name. I don't recall there being any markings on the jack (never used!)
so that doesn't help either.
I think it was something like =A3300. IIRC it's about 3 feet diameter and
3 feet tall when inflated. I have a compressor adapter and decent
compressor in case the exhaust is damaged when I need it.
The only time I might have needed it recently I was able to drive to a
flatter spot and use my bottle jack. If bottle jack friendly ground is
not available I'd much rather use the air jack than the farm jack.
The Draper had enough lift for 35" tyres, see
www.mudtoys.com/old/toys/airbagjackdivx.avi
Best regards,
Jon.
 
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Thanks Jon,
So why did you 'upgrade'?
Do you think the Draper would be man enough to a full kitted out and
loaded 80 or 100?
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Did anyone see Ray Mears on TV the other night?
Desert driving with L/Rs and an 80.
He interviewed a German chap who had been working in Oman. This person
got stuck in his 80 (a 1-hdt was used in the reconstruction) and he used
an air bag jack to "unstick" the vehicle.
Unfortunately he placed the bag under the fuel tank.
The programme stated he broke the fuel pump mountings ( which is
strange as we all know there is no pump in a diesel 80 tank, maybe they
meant the pick up pipe ) and the vehicle was disabled.
Anyhow he and a friend spent a week stuck in the desert. They did the
right thing stayed with the vehicle and were rescued by helicopter.
Moral of the tale - be careful when positioning your mechanical jack or
air bag !!
Gareth Jones.
 
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Hi Gareth,
Nice one Gareth. That's one of the extra advantages of having sliders.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Julian wrote:
I think Roman may have had one - he may be able to answer. If you look on
the web, they are weight rated I'm sure.
I have no experience of one, opting to go for a High Lift, which was not a
good idea for what I wanted but still. It is in the back of my car and so
far, has never been used...
One of the things you have to watch with an air jack is to make sure there
is nothing sharp underneath. Some people swear by them to get out of sand as
well but there ain't no substitute for digging.
And as we're talking shovels, take a mini Draper shovel and one of those
Germany army folding shovels. Being small, they encourage you to kneel down
when you shovel and in my case, stopped me from buggering my back. Also the
folding one can be used at right angles, like a scoop. Great for the kids on
the beach as well next summer.
Jeremy
HDJ81 ++
 
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Hi guys,
I did have a 2.5T Easylift Airjack which I sold the other day for =A365
to a guy doing a trans Africa. I had it with me on two trips but never
used it. Maybe he will ...
You can find out more here: http://www.air-jack.com/comprices.asp
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Julian wrote:
I think Roman may have had one - he may be able to answer. If you look on
the web, they are weight rated I'm sure.
I have no experience of one, opting to go for a High Lift, which was not a
good idea for what I wanted but still. It is in the back of my car and so
far, has never been used...
One of the things you have to watch with an air jack is to make sure there
is nothing sharp underneath. Some people swear by them to get out of sand as
well but there ain't no substitute for digging.
And as we're talking shovels, take a mini Draper shovel and one of those
Germany army folding shovels. Being small, they encourage you to kneel down
when you shovel and in my case, stopped me from buggering my back. Also the
folding one can be used at right angles, like a scoop. Great for the kids on
the beach as well next summer.
Jeremy
HDJ81 ++
 
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Hi Jeremy,
I have our old farm Highlift that I have used for years and I don't think I
have ever used it without causing myself injury of one form or another - I
would never take it with me on a trip.
Yes, the draper comes with carpets to go above and below to protect the bag, I
guess the more expensive ones have much heavier duty material so less of an
issue, although they are a lot more expensive.
I had always planned on picking up a couple of shovels from the local army
surplus (BTW - ISTR a good one in Oxford) and had considered the folding ones.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Julian,
Watch out for more injury when the car slips off the airbag.
The High Lift is like a Swiss Army knife - never leave home without
one! OK, it can bite back but nothing comes near it when it's needed.
So what would you use instead?
At some LR show I once bought a small Fiskars snow shovel made of
aluminium. It's priceless in the sand!
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Roman,
God, they aren't cheap are they.
When you compare with the Draper one at ?45 odd quid from some places
and ?36.06 on eBay (see http://tinyurl.com/ruzt7), I would prefer to
give the Draper a go.
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Roman,
True, guess it's the same for most jacks.
Probably air bag and factory jack (with a board to put it on).
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Julian,
The cheap Draper proved the concept for my purposes so then I bought a
'proper' one - more stable, better build quality, more lift / push.
Lifted my 80 with no fuss and it isn't exactly slim line ;-) I used it
to change the wheel a couple of times and once to make a ramp with a
waffle board to lift a wheel out of a 4ft rut and avoid ripping the axle
off.
Roman has reminded me where mine came from, I have the ELH04 with a
compressed air adaptor.
Best regards,
Jon.
 
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