@goodoldboy You keep asking for evidence and perhaps I am over complicating things?
Immigration of just one pair of parents say 40 years ago, will more likely result in children so, it must follow that the population of the country grows by 'X' amount. If that family did not come here then there would not been an increase, that needs no evidence.
Now, in the past 40 years lets assume those two parents have two children, and those children now have two each of their own, how many are immigrants? Two, the rest are British right? So the total number of immigrants shown on some computer model is two not eight which is what you are reading. Now multiply those figures by 250,000? I accept they are called (quite rightly) British but that's a lot of resources to find right.
Schools for example, there were no Islamic schools in the area I used to live in, and yet the money has been found to build and run them My parents had to fight to get me in a school that was within a half hour walk, not because there were no places due to immigration, but because there simply was not enough schools.
Now, reciprocal health arrangements were mentioned earlier in the thread across the EU, but non EU immigrants must be double that of EU countries, and yet there does not appear to be any such agreements for ongoing health care with non EU countries so someone has to pay......who?
I totally agree that privatisation has much to answer for but, if the UK does not take a harder stance on immigration (including asylum seekers), you cannot continue biting from an ever shrinking cake.........you will be left with crumbs.
BTW and with respect, comments such as these........
"So far this thread has continued without insults or name calling but if you made the same baseless claims about about anything to do with Landcruisers you would at least be ridiculed"
and
"BTW I've got a hydrogen kit in my lock up would go a treat on your 80 , improved MPG , lower emissions , better throttle response etc.it's yours for a grand , I mean thousands of punters can't be wrong!"
........add little to the debate, and in fact are known as diversionary, often used by people who feel threatened if they are losing position during a discussion, and they feel it strengthens their hand by trying to belittle someone in public.
Honestly it is not necessary, you clearly have strong feelings about immigration as do I, and I have put my opinion over regardless of whether it is right or wrong. The world would be a boring place if we all agreed with each other..............don't you agree?
Edited because I cannot add up.
Regards
Dave
