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Malcolm, do you work for Dorman diesels?
Gareth.
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No, the small engines are though Perkins (Dorman were sold, sold again and
became Perkins), fitted to Olympian (CAT) generators. Just happen to live
in Stafford.
Malcolm Bagley
Stafford, UK
1975 FJ45 Pickup (In Work)
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Roman,
Yes the inlet manifold from a 1HZ can be used for some of the
intercooler kits that require the inlet manifold to be cut and shut,
however it won't help if you want to fit an intercooler above the
engine.
I know cars like the Impreza have an intercooler on the top of the
engine, but they have a lot more space above the engine and also they
are requiring most of their power when travelling forward at speed.
For the sorts of things that you are doing you will want most of your
power at slower speeds at a point then the pressure of air from a duct
in the bonnet will be competing with the massive fan in the engine bay
- I suspect that you won't get the benefits.
I considered the water/air route, but it is expensive.
My problem with most of the kits is that most require mods to the inlet
manifold (although thanks to Jon, I have a Bosnian 1HZ inlet manifold)
and they all run their pipework down the exhaust side of the engine
bay, typically with one of the pipes running over the top of the engine
above the AC compressor where there is space to add ancilliaries as
Roman has with his hydrualic pump (?).
I would prefer to see a kit that runs the inlet to the IC down one side
of the engine bay and then the outlet down the other side. This would
provide shorter runs and would be neater and also keeps the IC outlet
away from the exhaust side of things (although you can add insulation),
however the big problem is how to connect to the inlet manifold.
I have seen photos of Japanese tricked up 80s where they have made a
bespoke inlet manifold a bit like the custom gas flowed exaust
manifolds which is an interesting option, but pricey if you have top
pay someone to do it - I would be tempted to consider making something
my self along these lines.
The kits from Maarten at All American and Safari's (of the snorkel
fame) seem to get the best write ups, but they are a bit pricey and I
seem to recall that Safari have stopped makig theirs.
People like Jeremy Fearn and Graham at Allisport make kits that require
hacking of the inlet manifold, but I don't know how much testing they
have done in terms of setting up the turbo and injector pump properly
afterwards.
Frogs Island have started offering a kit which is claimed to come from
the same manufacturer that made Safari's kit, but it obviously isn't
and requires more mods to the car to get it fitted. They do however do
a reasonably priced 2.5" stainless steel exhaust that is worth
considering if you need to replace your exhaust.
I will intercool my next LC, but am still undecided on the route to go.
I'll either just plumb for Maarten's kit or if I am feeling
experimentary I might make up my own manifolds and either source a
suitable 2nd hand intercooler from a lorry/tractor or get one from
Graham at Allisport with a view to putting a kit together for others.
Hope that helps.
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1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
Yes the inlet manifold from a 1HZ can be used for some of the
intercooler kits that require the inlet manifold to be cut and shut,
however it won't help if you want to fit an intercooler above the
engine.
I know cars like the Impreza have an intercooler on the top of the
engine, but they have a lot more space above the engine and also they
are requiring most of their power when travelling forward at speed.
For the sorts of things that you are doing you will want most of your
power at slower speeds at a point then the pressure of air from a duct
in the bonnet will be competing with the massive fan in the engine bay
- I suspect that you won't get the benefits.
I considered the water/air route, but it is expensive.
My problem with most of the kits is that most require mods to the inlet
manifold (although thanks to Jon, I have a Bosnian 1HZ inlet manifold)
and they all run their pipework down the exhaust side of the engine
bay, typically with one of the pipes running over the top of the engine
above the AC compressor where there is space to add ancilliaries as
Roman has with his hydrualic pump (?).
I would prefer to see a kit that runs the inlet to the IC down one side
of the engine bay and then the outlet down the other side. This would
provide shorter runs and would be neater and also keeps the IC outlet
away from the exhaust side of things (although you can add insulation),
however the big problem is how to connect to the inlet manifold.
I have seen photos of Japanese tricked up 80s where they have made a
bespoke inlet manifold a bit like the custom gas flowed exaust
manifolds which is an interesting option, but pricey if you have top
pay someone to do it - I would be tempted to consider making something
my self along these lines.
The kits from Maarten at All American and Safari's (of the snorkel
fame) seem to get the best write ups, but they are a bit pricey and I
seem to recall that Safari have stopped makig theirs.
People like Jeremy Fearn and Graham at Allisport make kits that require
hacking of the inlet manifold, but I don't know how much testing they
have done in terms of setting up the turbo and injector pump properly
afterwards.
Frogs Island have started offering a kit which is claimed to come from
the same manufacturer that made Safari's kit, but it obviously isn't
and requires more mods to the car to get it fitted. They do however do
a reasonably priced 2.5" stainless steel exhaust that is worth
considering if you need to replace your exhaust.
I will intercool my next LC, but am still undecided on the route to go.
I'll either just plumb for Maarten's kit or if I am feeling
experimentary I might make up my own manifolds and either source a
suitable 2nd hand intercooler from a lorry/tractor or get one from
Graham at Allisport with a view to putting a kit together for others.
Hope that helps.
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Julian,
Thanks. That neatly sums up what we wanted to know but were afraid to
ask. Oh, I just happen to remember that there was definitely something
that kept me for fitting an Intercooler
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
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Thanks. That neatly sums up what we wanted to know but were afraid to
ask. Oh, I just happen to remember that there was definitely something
that kept me for fitting an Intercooler
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Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
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Hi Roman,
I think it would be possible to create a replacement inlet pipe that
goes across the engine with one that comes from the join on the
injector side and then out and round and down the side of the injector
pump.
You would need a decent mandrel pipe bender, but you would avoid your
winch pump.
I've seen this done somewhere before, but can't remember where.
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1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
I think it would be possible to create a replacement inlet pipe that
goes across the engine with one that comes from the join on the
injector side and then out and round and down the side of the injector
pump.
You would need a decent mandrel pipe bender, but you would avoid your
winch pump.
I've seen this done somewhere before, but can't remember where.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Hi guys
just to wake you up:
recently I've been in contact with www.allisport.com and the guy(Andrew)seems very polite and helpsome and his price is much better than the 'allAmericans' and he is doing aluminium kits and fit them without charge and on the top of all offers free bed and breakfast or at your choice 'courtesy car'(he will need the vehicle 2 days)
Any experience with him?
I think if the guy is doing the job well he should be the best thing I ever heard about
and the place is in the middle of England!!!!!!!!!!!!!if I only had a 'snorkel'....................................
cheers
Lubo
96' HDJ80-not so happy as I should be with it............
just to wake you up:
recently I've been in contact with www.allisport.com and the guy(Andrew)seems very polite and helpsome and his price is much better than the 'allAmericans' and he is doing aluminium kits and fit them without charge and on the top of all offers free bed and breakfast or at your choice 'courtesy car'(he will need the vehicle 2 days)
Any experience with him?
I think if the guy is doing the job well he should be the best thing I ever heard about
and the place is in the middle of England!!!!!!!!!!!!!if I only had a 'snorkel'....................................
cheers
Lubo
96' HDJ80-not so happy as I should be with it............
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Hi Lubomir,
I would say that Andrew has a very good reputation for what he does and
has provided intercoolers for a number of LCs, however I believe that
the AllAmerican offering is a much better technical solution.
As for location, he is only half a way from me, sso well positioned!
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
I would say that Andrew has a very good reputation for what he does and
has provided intercoolers for a number of LCs, however I believe that
the AllAmerican offering is a much better technical solution.
As for location, he is only half a way from me, sso well positioned!
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Lubo
As far as I can make out he has to cut the alloy cross-over pipe to
insert the intercooler hoses.
I think this is probably OK for the 1HD-T engine as it is pretty much a
plain casting with room for manoeuvre above the turbocharger; but for an
1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet air
heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is not
clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
If yours is a 1996 model which engine has it got? Roughly 1995 onwards
in the UK was 1HD-FT.
Christopher Bell
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|Hi Lubomir,
|
|> www.allisport.com
|
|I would say that Andrew has a very good reputation for what he
|does and
|has provided intercoolers for a number of LCs, however I believe that
|the AllAmerican offering is a much better technical solution.
|
|As for location, he is only half a way from me, sso well positioned!
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|
|Julian Voelcker
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As far as I can make out he has to cut the alloy cross-over pipe to
insert the intercooler hoses.
I think this is probably OK for the 1HD-T engine as it is pretty much a
plain casting with room for manoeuvre above the turbocharger; but for an
1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet air
heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is not
clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
If yours is a 1996 model which engine has it got? Roughly 1995 onwards
in the UK was 1HD-FT.
Christopher Bell
|
|Hi Lubomir,
|
|> www.allisport.com
|
|I would say that Andrew has a very good reputation for what he
|does and
|has provided intercoolers for a number of LCs, however I believe that
|the AllAmerican offering is a much better technical solution.
|
|As for location, he is only half a way from me, sso well positioned!
|--
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|
|Julian Voelcker
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Thanks Julian
as for the location I was sort of gambling)))))))))))
cheers
Lubo
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] intercooler
as for the location I was sort of gambling
)))))))))))cheers
Lubo
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Hi Christopher,
As far as I know he has done 1HD-FT's, just needs a bit more work on the
install.
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
As far as I know he has done 1HD-FT's, just needs a bit more work on the
install.
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Julian
Do you know if any feedback is available on those he has done?
Also in what way is Maarten's solution better? (Apart from the added
bonus of a trip to Holland)
CB
|Hi Christopher,
|
|> but for an
|> 1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet
air
|> heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is
not
|> clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
|
|As far as I know he has done 1HD-FT's, just needs a bit more work on
the
|install.
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|
|Julian Voelcker
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Do you know if any feedback is available on those he has done?
Also in what way is Maarten's solution better? (Apart from the added
bonus of a trip to Holland)
CB
|Hi Christopher,
|
|> but for an
|> 1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet
air
|> heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is
not
|> clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
|
|As far as I know he has done 1HD-FT's, just needs a bit more work on
the
|install.
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|
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Hi Christopher,
Best thing to do is to give him a call. He is very approachable and in
the past has been happy to pass on contact details for previous
customers for references.
Maarten't kit is a true kit - they send you the kit and then you fit it
or get someone to fit it for you. As far as I know you don't need to
do any cutting of inlet pipes.
It is also encouraging that Maarten looks at the whole solution to LC
performance from the intercooler, camshafts, to the turbo and on to the
exhaust.
Also bear in mind that Maarten's main business in LCs.
And to cap it all, Craig says they are better so they must be ;-)
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
Best thing to do is to give him a call. He is very approachable and in
the past has been happy to pass on contact details for previous
customers for references.
Maarten't kit is a true kit - they send you the kit and then you fit it
or get someone to fit it for you. As far as I know you don't need to
do any cutting of inlet pipes.
It is also encouraging that Maarten looks at the whole solution to LC
performance from the intercooler, camshafts, to the turbo and on to the
exhaust.
Also bear in mind that Maarten's main business in LCs.
And to cap it all, Craig says they are better so they must be ;-)
--
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Hi Christopher
Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can send
it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
cheers
Lubo
'96 HDJ80 24valves
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To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] intercooler
Lubo
As far as I can make out he has to cut the alloy cross-over pipe to
insert the intercooler hoses.
I think this is probably OK for the 1HD-T engine as it is pretty much a
plain casting with room for manoeuvre above the turbocharger; but for an
1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet air
heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is not
clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
If yours is a 1996 model which engine has it got? Roughly 1995 onwards
in the UK was 1HD-FT.
Christopher Bell
|
Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can send
it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
cheers
Lubo
'96 HDJ80 24valves
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From: "Christopher Bell" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] intercooler
Lubo
As far as I can make out he has to cut the alloy cross-over pipe to
insert the intercooler hoses.
I think this is probably OK for the 1HD-T engine as it is pretty much a
plain casting with room for manoeuvre above the turbocharger; but for an
1HD-FT like mine which has a much more complicated pipe with inlet air
heater and EGR gubbins I'd be a bit wary of being the first as it is not
clear to me how he would manage it. Maybe someone else would know?
If yours is a 1996 model which engine has it got? Roughly 1995 onwards
in the UK was 1HD-FT.
Christopher Bell
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The thing that I know Maarten is doing is disabling ERG valves...(or EGR?)
Lubo
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Subject: Re: [ELCO] intercooler
Lubo
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Hi Lubomir,
That can make a difference even on a standard vehicle - I can't remember the
details, but I think that you can just get away with disconnecting the EGR
solenoids - it's a while since I have done it.
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1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
That can make a difference even on a standard vehicle - I can't remember the
details, but I think that you can just get away with disconnecting the EGR
solenoids - it's a while since I have done it.
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Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Lubo
I think that you, like me, have reservations about a solution that is not be 100% worked out. Maybe the solution would be to buy Maarten's kit, but to get it fitted by Allisport in the UK? Probably cheaper for me, but I suspect for you it would make more sense to go direct to Maarten in Holland.
I'd like to fit an intercooler, service injectors and pump (and optimise pump settings) and check valve clearances all in one go. I'm not too fussed about increasing power to great heights, I'd just like to improve economy, get a bit more grunt, and keep the vehicle in good shape.
The trouble is that I'm nowhere near skilled enough to do all that for myself, and I cannot identify anywhere in the UK where I could be confident that it would all be done properly. A trip to Holland sounds good ...
.=2E. but I reckon it would cost around =A32500 to do it all + pay for the travelling, which is probably 1/3 of what the vehicle is worth. And I find that hard to justify.
So unless Father Christmas suddenly sends me some money I shall probably just do nothing!
Christopher Bell
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|Hi Christopher
|Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
|England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can send
|it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
|cheers
|Lubo
|'96 HDJ80 24valves
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I think that you, like me, have reservations about a solution that is not be 100% worked out. Maybe the solution would be to buy Maarten's kit, but to get it fitted by Allisport in the UK? Probably cheaper for me, but I suspect for you it would make more sense to go direct to Maarten in Holland.
I'd like to fit an intercooler, service injectors and pump (and optimise pump settings) and check valve clearances all in one go. I'm not too fussed about increasing power to great heights, I'd just like to improve economy, get a bit more grunt, and keep the vehicle in good shape.
The trouble is that I'm nowhere near skilled enough to do all that for myself, and I cannot identify anywhere in the UK where I could be confident that it would all be done properly. A trip to Holland sounds good ...
.=2E. but I reckon it would cost around =A32500 to do it all + pay for the travelling, which is probably 1/3 of what the vehicle is worth. And I find that hard to justify.
So unless Father Christmas suddenly sends me some money I shall probably just do nothing!
Christopher Bell
|
|Hi Christopher
|Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
|England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can send
|it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
|cheers
|Lubo
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Hi Christopher,
I can't remember what Maarten's kit would be but if you can find a
local chap to do the work for you you should be able to cut a fair bit
off the budget.
Doing the valves doesn't take that long espescially if you are allready
swapping the inlet pipe across the top. If your chap can get the
injectors and pump off and get them up to Swindon, budget for up to
?500 to get them serviced and recalibrated - it is only likely to go
way over that if there are major worn parts in the pump.
In all I wouldn't have thought it would be more than 1-2days worth of
workshop time.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
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Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
I can't remember what Maarten's kit would be but if you can find a
local chap to do the work for you you should be able to cut a fair bit
off the budget.
Doing the valves doesn't take that long espescially if you are allready
swapping the inlet pipe across the top. If your chap can get the
injectors and pump off and get them up to Swindon, budget for up to
?500 to get them serviced and recalibrated - it is only likely to go
way over that if there are major worn parts in the pump.
In all I wouldn't have thought it would be more than 1-2days worth of
workshop time.
--
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Skype: julianvoelcker
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
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Thanks. I think fine pump adjustments need to be done while on the vehicle though, do they not?
Trouble is that I'm not sure that I'll find anything other than Land Rover experience down here, and I don't fancy someone doing a "proper job" on it with the standard LR 2lb hammer!
CB
|I can't remember what Maarten's kit would be but if you can find a
|local chap to do the work for you you should be able to cut a fair bit
|off the budget.
|
|Doing the valves doesn't take that long espescially if you are
|allready
|swapping the inlet pipe across the top. If your chap can get the
|injectors and pump off and get them up to Swindon, budget for up to
|=A3500 to get them serviced and recalibrated - it is only likely to go
|way over that if there are major worn parts in the pump.
|
|In all I wouldn't have thought it would be more than 1-2days worth of
|workshop time.
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|
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Thanks. I think fine pump adjustments need to be done while on the vehicle though, do they not?
Trouble is that I'm not sure that I'll find anything other than Land Rover experience down here, and I don't fancy someone doing a "proper job" on it with the standard LR 2lb hammer!
CB
|I can't remember what Maarten's kit would be but if you can find a
|local chap to do the work for you you should be able to cut a fair bit
|off the budget.
|
|Doing the valves doesn't take that long espescially if you are
|allready
|swapping the inlet pipe across the top. If your chap can get the
|injectors and pump off and get them up to Swindon, budget for up to
|=A3500 to get them serviced and recalibrated - it is only likely to go
|way over that if there are major worn parts in the pump.
|
|In all I wouldn't have thought it would be more than 1-2days worth of
|workshop time.
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|
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Hi Christopher
for me the best solution is to go to Holand and do it there
as for your wishes they all can be done there-you just can email Maarten or
George and they will answer you with details-very nice guys.you can also
check the BEBs there and if you have to change them it was something like
500-600 euros including everithing. the intercooler was aroun1200 euros and
they fit it for 690 euros but that is including VAT.I might be lucky having
the possibilities to reclime it 'couse Norway is not in EU-hehehehehe
Maybe we could arrange a trip to them together and ask them for rebate?but
before anything else I have to ask again for the prise of the things ought
to be done becouse the prises I just wrote were from the summer and I can't
go there before next year...
I think you calculate wrong-just ask them what they will take for valve
clearance and other stuff you want to be done and we talk again later
cheers
Lubo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bell" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] intercooler
Lubo
I think that you, like me, have reservations about a solution that is not be
100% worked out. Maybe the solution would be to buy Maarten's kit, but to
get it fitted by Allisport in the UK? Probably cheaper for me, but I
suspect for you it would make more sense to go direct to Maarten in Holland.
I'd like to fit an intercooler, service injectors and pump (and optimise
pump settings) and check valve clearances all in one go. I'm not too fussed
about increasing power to great heights, I'd just like to improve economy,
get a bit more grunt, and keep the vehicle in good shape.
The trouble is that I'm nowhere near skilled enough to do all that for
myself, and I cannot identify anywhere in the UK where I could be confident
that it would all be done properly. A trip to Holland sounds good ...
... but I reckon it would cost around ?2500 to do it all + pay for the
travelling, which is probably 1/3 of what the vehicle is worth. And I find
that hard to justify.
So unless Father Christmas suddenly sends me some money I shall probably
just do nothing!
Christopher Bell
|
|Hi Christopher
|Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
|England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can
send
|it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
|cheers
|Lubo
|'96 HDJ80 24valves
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for me the best solution is to go to Holand and do it there
as for your wishes they all can be done there-you just can email Maarten or
George and they will answer you with details-very nice guys.you can also
check the BEBs there and if you have to change them it was something like
500-600 euros including everithing. the intercooler was aroun1200 euros and
they fit it for 690 euros but that is including VAT.I might be lucky having
the possibilities to reclime it 'couse Norway is not in EU-hehehehehe
Maybe we could arrange a trip to them together and ask them for rebate?but
before anything else I have to ask again for the prise of the things ought
to be done becouse the prises I just wrote were from the summer and I can't
go there before next year...
I think you calculate wrong-just ask them what they will take for valve
clearance and other stuff you want to be done and we talk again later
cheers
Lubo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bell" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] intercooler
Lubo
I think that you, like me, have reservations about a solution that is not be
100% worked out. Maybe the solution would be to buy Maarten's kit, but to
get it fitted by Allisport in the UK? Probably cheaper for me, but I
suspect for you it would make more sense to go direct to Maarten in Holland.
I'd like to fit an intercooler, service injectors and pump (and optimise
pump settings) and check valve clearances all in one go. I'm not too fussed
about increasing power to great heights, I'd just like to improve economy,
get a bit more grunt, and keep the vehicle in good shape.
The trouble is that I'm nowhere near skilled enough to do all that for
myself, and I cannot identify anywhere in the UK where I could be confident
that it would all be done properly. A trip to Holland sounds good ...
... but I reckon it would cost around ?2500 to do it all + pay for the
travelling, which is probably 1/3 of what the vehicle is worth. And I find
that hard to justify.
So unless Father Christmas suddenly sends me some money I shall probably
just do nothing!
Christopher Bell
|
|Hi Christopher
|Mine is the same engine like yours and Andrew ask me if I can't come to
|England to send him the inlet manifold so he can modify it and then can
send
|it back to me with the kit-something that I'll never do...........
|cheers
|Lubo
|'96 HDJ80 24valves
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Lubo
You've missed out one important factor: isn't SWMBO (=3D Hilda Rumpole =3D
She Who Must Be Obeyed) a factor of life in Norway?
CB
|Hi Christopher
|for me the best solution is to go to Holand and do it there
|as for your wishes they all can be done there-you just can
|email Maarten or
|George and they will answer you with details-very nice
|guys.you can also
|check the BEBs there and if you have to change them it was
|something like
|500-600 euros including everithing. the intercooler was
|aroun1200 euros and
|they fit it for 690 euros but that is including VAT.I might be
|lucky having
|the possibilities to reclime it 'couse Norway is not in EU-hehehehehe
|Maybe we could arrange a trip to them together and ask them
|for rebate?but
|before anything else I have to ask again for the prise of the
|things ought
|to be done becouse the prises I just wrote were from the
|summer and I can't
|go there before next year...
|I think you calculate wrong-just ask them what they will take
|for valve
|clearance and other stuff you want to be done and we talk
|again later
|cheers
|Lubo
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You've missed out one important factor: isn't SWMBO (=3D Hilda Rumpole =3D
She Who Must Be Obeyed) a factor of life in Norway?
CB
|Hi Christopher
|for me the best solution is to go to Holand and do it there
|as for your wishes they all can be done there-you just can
|email Maarten or
|George and they will answer you with details-very nice
|guys.you can also
|check the BEBs there and if you have to change them it was
|something like
|500-600 euros including everithing. the intercooler was
|aroun1200 euros and
|they fit it for 690 euros but that is including VAT.I might be
|lucky having
|the possibilities to reclime it 'couse Norway is not in EU-hehehehehe
|Maybe we could arrange a trip to them together and ask them
|for rebate?but
|before anything else I have to ask again for the prise of the
|things ought
|to be done becouse the prises I just wrote were from the
|summer and I can't
|go there before next year...
|I think you calculate wrong-just ask them what they will take
|for valve
|clearance and other stuff you want to be done and we talk
|again later
|cheers
|Lubo
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