Renate Haupt wrote:
Yeah, me too. I compete in (club level) trials organised by an all makes
club but this being the UK, most of the other vehicles are LR. My
(almost) stock 70 is very competitive with the modified LRs (and some
are *very* modified). I normally finish in the top 2 or 3 places.
What **really** annoys me are LR only events - I know that my vehicle
would put many LRs to shame, but they won't let me enter (
1994 KZJ70, 2" OME lift, Warn HS9500, Custom exhaust http://www.mudcruzr.com
Quoting Alan Thomson <[Email address removed]>:
I guess I won't earn any points for stating the obvious but in Britain we love
to champion the underdog. Landrover, apart from being an iconic British
underdog whose technological decline draws a lot from the fate of the Empire,
also appeals to the notion of a classless society and allows flights of fancy
like no other marque. So let's give credit where it's due.
Buy an old Range Rover, a pair of wellies and a labrador and you will feel like
the squire who used to drive it before you. Or an old series III, a camo uniform
and a bucket of NATO green paint and you will feel like a war hero. Or a
rooftop tent, leather hat and a GPS and you feel like a Dr Livingstone...
Curiously enough, I've never come across any social study of the landrover
phenomenon, maybe some one else has?
No, but I identify strongly with what you say.
When wondering what to buy to tow my nags I was strongly drawn towards the LR 110, mainly because of its interior space & non-pretentiousness - as in "I've bought this because I need it, rather than as a fashion statement". (I have a life, not a lifestyle!)
If they were better engineered, quieter & more comfortable I'd probably have got one.
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On 11/11/04 9:26, "roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
There are amazing similarities between a LR and a Citroen 2CV, the long
deceased icon of French roads. H frame chassis, bolted on body, light weight
etc. very different cars but similar philosophies...Perhaps where the 2CV
scored was under the bonnet - all aluminium engine, each one hand assembled
by one man/woman, oil throws as opposed to oil seals etc etc. With regular
oil changes, simple reliable and long lasting. Where LR has gone wrong is
exactly what Roman says - attempting to appeal to a long-gone vision of post
war England, and at the same ignoring what people really need in a 4x4.
Went to see a TLC yesterday and all being well it will be mine this time
next week. 10 years old, low mileage, auto, Jap spec, all diff locks plus
other stuff with the sweetest diesel engine I have ever driven. I was also
able to test the diff locks on some soft stuff. There is no way that a Land
Rover of similar vintage, however cosseted would have run so sweetly on
I'm looking forward to being able to put a proper signature at the bottom of
Mob: 07831 458 793
Congratulations. You can't beat a new toy to put a smile on your face,
especially an LC.
Will you be able to make it along on the 5th now?
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift, ARB
Will try my best but may be abroad...also hoping to get some of the
mechanical work I want doing out of the way asap - springs, shocks,
transmission oil cooler, snorkel etc etc and then next year configure the
inside of the car as we want. That requires more thought...
But yes, you're right, I am smiling.
On 11/11/04 10:00, "Julian Voelcker" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Mob: 07831 458 793
Quoting Jeremy Llewellyn-Jones <[Email address removed]>:
Make sure that the previous owner gives you a clue whether or not he's done the
big end bearings. It will save you some guesswork., but if in doubt - replace.
Another important point - make sure there's no craclks in the chassis,
particularly near the steering box.
Also check if all electrics work properly, eg if power windows motors and are
fast enough. These are not essentials, but you may be able to knock down the price.
Everything can be fixed, but with the model getting older, there's less and less
reusable parts from vehicles being broken down and the cost of brand new parts
is going up.
Thanks Roman. The window motors are a little slow... I had the vehicle
looked at by someone else who has prepared lots of TLCs (and some LRs) and
after looking, driving, putting the car on the ramp etc he came away
impressed. I take your point about age and replacement parts. I'm at the
beginning of flattening out a huge learning curve and I appreciate the
On 11/11/04 10:08, "roman" <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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London N4 2LF
Tel: 020 8800 4987
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There is a phrase that seems beloved of many LR fans, it has many
endings, but always begins "in any other car" e.g. "in any other car we
wouldn't have got there". Complete nonsense of course but it always
makes me smile.
A bit like Clarkson proclaiming 'no other car has ever driven up this
mountain' without telling us whether anyone else has ever actually been
allowed to try...
LR is a huge success in at least one respect though - few other brands
have managed to inspire such fierce loyalty to second rate products.
Toby Welburn 1990 HDJ80 manual, Safari snorkel, extended breathers,
factory difflocks, now up for sale , Surrey UK