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If any of you are interested, I've used the following FUCHS MC CARGO 1040 Synthetic. Apparently DAF and MERK trucks use this
I think its one of the best oils I've ever used. I used to use MOBIL but am not paying =A350 plus for 10 ltrs of the stuff. within 6 months of buying Le Beast I'd changed to FUCHS, and I've never looked back since.
Renate
But I am looking for some different synth, and have followed the comments about the amsoil, but I'm still undecided.
 
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Hi Renate
If you are looking for another oil the Amsoil seems to be very good and has very impressive specs. There is one guy in the Uk who looks after the Amsoil products and he is very nice. But then you probibilly know all about this oil already. I looked into getting a load of it from this guy but what put me off was the shipping from the UK, mad just mad because of the weight of it. There are certain specs to look for regarding the synthetic oils, because if your going to pay big money for your oil you natually want the best. I have info on it some where but no doubth some one else will have some aswell. Extented oil drains are possible with the good synthetic oils.
John c
92 HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
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From: Renate Haupt
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: [ELCO] oil
List
If any of you are interested, I've used the following FUCHS MC CARGO 1040 Synthetic. Apparently DAF and MERK trucks use this
I think its one of the best oils I've ever used. I used to use MOBIL but am not paying =A350 plus for 10 ltrs of the stuff. within 6 months of buying Le Beast I'd changed to FUCHS, and I've never looked back since.
Renate
But I am looking for some different synth, and have followed the comments about the amsoil, but I'm still undecided.
 
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Thankyou John, I will do just this! it would be nice to get hold of
some really good stuff for my next trips to North Africa.
Renate
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Hi Renate
I have looked for the oil stuff that I have and will get it all
together soon. Its nice to be able to contribute some thing if at all
possible. To start with there is an E book on oil that has a lot of
info. You can view some of it free and then you can buy the whole book
if you want to. There is about 140 pages so there is a lot in it. The
book is called the MOTOR OIL BIBLE by MICHAEL KAUFMAN, its a start.
John c
92 HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
 
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Julian
Just a thought - I already use Synth oil, always have, if we can source
this info that John (Ireland) talks then you could put extracts into
information or archives on your list?
Renate
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Hi Renate
I have looked for the oil stuff that I have and will get it all
together soon. Its nice to be able to contribute some thing if at all
possible. To start with there is an E book on oil that has a lot of
info. You can view some of it free and then you can buy the whole book
if you want to. There is about 140 pages so there is a lot in it. The
book is called the MOTOR OIL BIBLE by MICHAEL KAUFMAN, its a start.
John c
92 HDJ 80 1HD-T Ireland
 
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Hi Guys
Im going to change over to synthetic for the engine in a while and have a
question. The guy I bought it from said I should change the filter and oil
after 500 miles. Now to me that seems quite a bit too much, after all the
oil is very expensive at ?76 for the 10 litres and I was always of the
opinon that you change the filter only after say the 500 miles but not the
oil. After the trip of late I have put up 2500 miles and will change the
filter and oil within a few days, unless it rains and rains and rains. It
will now because I want to do this. I will then change the oil after say a
few hundred miles and then repeat the process again. No im not mad its just
I have a bit of the dino stuff in the shed and so should put it to good use.
What do you guys think and remember im very cautious, or maybe mad after
all.
John C
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80 for sale

Hello,
I'm selling my 80.
It is a 1991 grey diesel VX auto. It has done just 63,000 miles and is in
very good condition.
It has just had the big ends done ready for sale and new brake pads. Oil and
filter every 3000 miles.
Has tow bar fitted and was used to tow a motorbike - 150Kg including
trailer.
Not used off road really, only a handful of times in flat fields - never
needed the lockers. Hence I am selling it to get a van which is more
practical for my motorcycle activities.
Located in South Bucks.
I'm looking for ?6500 ono.
If anyone is interested let me know and I can send pictures, answer any
questions etc.
Regards,
Ian.
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He said change it every 500 miles!!!! That'll be very expensive - it'll
double the running costs.
The recommended service interval is 3000.
If you're changing over to synthetic might be worth using a flusher first
but not sure if you need to. I think most modern oils are designed to not
cause problems if they're mixed so probably no big deal if you don't.
Ian.
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To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:54 PM
Subject: [ELCO] oil
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Hi Ian
No Im sorry for the confusion, just to change it the first time at the 500
miles to remove all the varnish from the engine. Then from there on get an
oil analisis done every so often to see if it needs to be changed. He thinks
it will last at least about 10000 miles or even longer as confirmed by the
oil analisis.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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Changing it after 500 or so miles is a good idea. Synthetic oil cleans out
the system so you need to let it do it's job for a few hundred miles and
then start over. I would say 500 to 1000. You also need it to flush out any
traces of the old oil as you can get an emulsion that is not to good if they
are mixed.
Regards, Clive.
On 11/9/05, John Byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
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> Hi Ian
> No Im sorry for the confusion, just to change it the first time at the 500
> miles to remove all the varnish from the engine. Then from there on get an
> oil analisis done every so often to see if it needs to be changed. He
> thinks
> it will last at least about 10000 miles or even longer as confirmed by the
> oil analisis.
> John C
> 92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
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Wouldn't a flusher be a more economic solution?
Ian.
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From: Clive Marks
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] oil
Changing it after 500 or so miles is a good idea. Synthetic oil cleans out the system so you need to let it do it's job for a few hundred miles and then start over. I would say 500 to 1000. You also need it to flush out any traces of the old oil as you can get an emulsion that is not to good if they are mixed.
Regards, Clive.
On 11/9/05, John Byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Hi Ian
No Im sorry for the confusion, just to change it the first time at the 500
miles to remove all the varnish from the engine. Then from there on get an
oil analisis done every so often to see if it needs to be changed. He thinks
it will last at least about 10000 miles or even longer as confirmed by the
oil analisis.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
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Hi Ian
Yes you are right but IM not sure bacause some say, yes do use a flush while others say dont because of what ingredients are in the flush may harm parts in the engine. I asked the oil guy and he told me to do it the way i said rather than use a flush. Its all very interesting to someone like me who has never even seen the inside of an engine and so cant even imagine where the oil goes or really what it really really does other than cool and lubricate parts.
I suppose it could be better that way so I dont get a big head and think i know it all.
To flush or not to flush that is the question but is there one answer or a few.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT ireland
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From: Ian Packer
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] oil
Wouldn't a flusher be a more economic solution?
Ian.
----- Original Message -----
From: Clive Marks
To: [Email address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] oil
Changing it after 500 or so miles is a good idea. Synthetic oil cleans out the system so you need to let it do it's job for a few hundred miles and then start over. I would say 500 to 1000. You also need it to flush out any traces of the old oil as you can get an emulsion that is not to good if they are mixed.
Regards, Clive.
On 11/9/05, John Byrne <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Hi Ian
No Im sorry for the confusion, just to change it the first time at the 500
miles to remove all the varnish from the engine. Then from there on get an
oil analisis done every so often to see if it needs to be changed. He thinks
it will last at least about 10000 miles or even longer as confirmed by the
oil analisis.
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
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I wouldn't use a flushing oil on an older engine for the very reason
John states. If you start cleaning out the internals of an old engine
*too* well then you can create leaks.
Pete
John Byrne wrote:
 
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Well on that basis why change to synthetic if it cleans it as suggested?
Ian.
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] oil
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Hi Peter
Nice little debate we can have here and its all my fault as usual.
The reason I decided to dive in with the synthetic is because of its really
good benifits it can give to my engine.
But like every thing I do to the cruiser I second guess and third guess and
get more info and get peoples opinons and so on and on untill the pros out
weight the cons.
My engine was rebuilt about 54,000 miles ago after the big end bearing went,
so on that basis im thinking that all the seals and bits should be Ok to
change over to the synthetic oil.
If im wrong I could have leaking seals, gaskets all over the place.
I have read horror stories of people who have changed over and their engines
resemble an oil fountain.
Others have said they changed and their engine now looks like a slimy piece
of metal on the outside never mind on the inside.
I have read about the flush and again the oil company say yes its good to do
it before the change because of all the deposits left behind by the dino but
also say the synthetic oil will clean it anyway over time and the choice is
yours.
If you use the flush it will clean all the deposits from the engine and I
presume break them up.
If you dont use the flush the deposits will get cleaned anyway but they say
you run a small change of blocked galleries and ports.
Now to me who does not know what the galleries or ports are, what they do
and how big the circumfurance of these things are, this is all really
USELESS info. How big could these deposits be and how big are the ports and
galleries. ???????????????????????????????????????/
They do say that if you dont flush the bigger deposits will circulate in the
engine and MAY block the ports etc. But there again I thought thats what the
oil filter was for, to take out all this crap/gunge/deposits from the oil in
the first place. I dont mind which way it is done but I do want to do it
right first time. But then they are selling a product.
Getting somewhere I think or maybe not
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
 
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John,
Ok blocked galleries - some are quite small, is a bigger and more immediate
problem than leaking seals.
A blocked oil way could lead to an immediate full engine failure. If the oil
company recommends flushing then flush because if synth will do the same
over longer time it'll still leak if it's going to. This is just my opinion
and not an expert one!
Ian.
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From: "John Byrne" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] oil
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Hi Guys
I was out today and just happened to see that Halfords are doing a special
on their fully synthetic oils.Its buy one get one free.
So I would like to know if anyone has any experience of their oils.
They dont have the 15w40 but they have the 5w40 and the 5w30.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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Alright John!
Are you moving away from Amsoil?
If so when changing from Amsoil (mineral), do you have to flush the
engine before you stick fully synthetic in.
I ask because on next service I'm changing to Amsoil from Synthetic
Cheers
Niall
 
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Hey Niall
Amsoil is fully synthetic not mineral.
If you are getting the Amsoil where did you get it.
I want to keep to Amsoil but always on the look out for a good bargain thats
why I ask about the Halfords brand, which is very good value .
But I dont know the specs on it as all i had was a quick look and then I
thought about it later.
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
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Man John
Thanks for the clarification - was off on a bit of a tangent there.
I'm sourcing in the UK - in bulk to save on carriage.
When I have pricing confirmed - will let you know the cost - welcome to
piggy back on the order if it can save any dosh.
The VAT is proving difficult to sort to my advantage.... and may
scupper the whole plan
WIll let you know by the end of the week
Thanks
Niall
 
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Hi Niall
These are the people I bought my Amsoil through.
They were also the cheapest when I looked, and no delivery charge for
orders over ?100.
The service was excellent, and they answered questions for me too.
http://www.performanceoilsltd.co.uk/
They have an amsoil engine flush which I used exactly as recommended,
and the engine is now nice and clean.
The oil on the dipstick still looks the same as when I put it in, 3 (or
4) weeks ago.
All the best
Graham.
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