Pay and play - now auto/manual swap

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| hi every one my name is mark im from frome in somerset i have
| a land cruiser 80 series i go out once a month to salibury
| plain .would any one now how much it would cost to go from
| auto to manual and where to go.
Are you asking how much it would cost to swap in a manual transmission?
If so I haven't a clue, but I'd have thought you would be better off
trading in your existing truck for one with a manual box, as they tend
to be cheaper because the average user prefers the auto. It would save
you a whole load of grief, and certainly a lot of money!
Also are you *sure* you want a manual? I have one as I'm an awkward
cuss who prefers to decide for myself when to change gears, but it is a
very user-unfriendly box: clunky at the best of times, and very baulky
changing down into 2nd when cold. Also the clutches on these vehicles
have a tendency to judder. If I drove a lot in stop-start town traffic
I think I would consider an auto. On the plus side you should get 2 to
3 mpg better fuel economy with the manual.
I don't know how old your truck is, but if you do consider a swap it may
help to know that in (roughly) the period 1995 to 1997 Toyota introduced
the 24 valve motor, and in the UK the only way they could get it through
emissions testing was with a manual box. So there are quite a few N, P
and R reg vehicles floating around with the 24v motor + manual box
option that should be nicely run in.
The 24 valve motor gives marginally more power, but significantly
better fuel economy. Also there was an issue with the No 1 big end
bearing on the older 12v motors that has - supposedly - been fixed on
the later motor. Certainly mine at 120k miles runs like new.
Finally, living in Zomerset, you are fortunate to be within striking
range of the Exeter Gearbox Centre on the Marsh Barton trading estate,
Exeter. They are good mechanics, good value, and could be worth a call
anyway just to discuss the issue. Their phone number is 01392 434049 /
250225
Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT (5 spd Manual)
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That's pretty good for the 12v motor. I found towing kills my mpg - but
then I'm talking about typically 2 tonnes of very non-aerodynamic, twin
axle horse-trailer.

Mine's getting a cam belt & associated bearings change next week - how
often do you change yours? (I'm curious because the book says every 60k
miles, which I'm stickling to, but my warning light on the speedo came
on at exactly 100k miles)

CB
Glad to hear that your Cruiser runs like knew with 120k on the
clock.
Mine, a 1994 12 valve manual has now covered 250k and yes yuv'e
guessed, still runs as sweet as the day I bought it!
I know of a couple of these motors that now have over half a
million miles under their belt, with no major work being done to the
power train.
I keep thinking about changing m,ine for a newer model, but if I
am truthful, can't really justify parting with the old girl. Perhaps I
will reconsider at 500k!!!
I get 27 mpg in mixed driving and towing either our boat or
caravan doesn't seem to alter this unless we need to "get a move on" .
Hywel.
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Hi christopher thank you for the information i will give them a phone call.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bell" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: [ELCO] Pay and play - now auto/manual swap
Mark
| hi every one my name is mark im from frome in somerset i have
| a land cruiser 80 series i go out once a month to salibury
| plain .would any one now how much it would cost to go from
| auto to manual and where to go.
Are you asking how much it would cost to swap in a manual transmission?
If so I haven't a clue, but I'd have thought you would be better off
trading in your existing truck for one with a manual box, as they tend
to be cheaper because the average user prefers the auto. It would save
you a whole load of grief, and certainly a lot of money!
Also are you *sure* you want a manual? I have one as I'm an awkward
cuss who prefers to decide for myself when to change gears, but it is a
very user-unfriendly box: clunky at the best of times, and very baulky
changing down into 2nd when cold. Also the clutches on these vehicles
have a tendency to judder. If I drove a lot in stop-start town traffic
I think I would consider an auto. On the plus side you should get 2 to
3 mpg better fuel economy with the manual.
I don't know how old your truck is, but if you do consider a swap it may
help to know that in (roughly) the period 1995 to 1997 Toyota introduced
the 24 valve motor, and in the UK the only way they could get it through
emissions testing was with a manual box. So there are quite a few N, P
and R reg vehicles floating around with the 24v motor + manual box
option that should be nicely run in.
The 24 valve motor gives marginally more power, but significantly
better fuel economy. Also there was an issue with the No 1 big end
bearing on the older 12v motors that has - supposedly - been fixed on
the later motor. Certainly mine at 120k miles runs like new.
Finally, living in Zomerset, you are fortunate to be within striking
range of the Exeter Gearbox Centre on the Marsh Barton trading estate,
Exeter. They are good mechanics, good value, and could be worth a call
anyway just to discuss the issue. Their phone number is 01392 434049 /
250225
Christopher Bell
Devon, UK
1996 1HD-FT (5 spd Manual)
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