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Hi Guys
I was just wondering if anyone can remember the name of the rust protection
that Roman posted last year for the under side of the cruiser.
Its stuff you can apply with a brush.
cheers
john92HDJ 80 1HDT
rep of Ireland
 
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John, you can try - Waxoyl - lots of hits on Google - see also -
http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/techstuff3text.htm
To do a thorough job the underside has to be pressure washed, and dried to remove ALL traces of moisture. The waxoyl - or any other product is best sprayed on using a type of spray gun. It is impossible to reach all the nooks and crannies with a brush.
I remove the bumpers, the plastic wheelarches and the wheelarch liners before I start. The brakes have to be wrapped in plastic to stop the liquid getting on them. I also mask off the lower part of the body to stop overspray as I mix waxoyl with some stonechip / schutz to give it some body.
Looking on the net I see that some people advocate the use of chain oil, as in chainsaws, mixed with a bit of phosphoric acid. Sprayed on. Great care needed here, I would not want to breath in atomised acid fumes !
It is a messy and time consuming job even with all the right tools and the use of an inspection pit or a four poster ramp. I know I have done it a couple of times and will be doing the cruiser again this summer.
Just type in - rustproofing car or vehicle - and see what you get.
Regards Gareth.
 
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Hi Gareth
No it was another stuff that you can paint on and it appears black when dry.
I remember a picture of a piece of metal half coated in this stuff and it
looked really good and did not I think need to be done every year or so. Ah
the memory is an awful thing at times
Cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT
 
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John, yes I have seen these pictures as well, I think that the before and after link I gave you will take you there.
The point I am making is that it is easy to paint a flat even surface with any type of coating. The bottom of any vehicle is not flat, has many inaccesable places and requires considerable preperation before you apply a drop of anti rust whatsit. An remember it is upside down when you are underneath, sadly I cannot reverse gravity in my garage !
As ever the devil is in the detail - or preperation is 90% of any job !!
Gareth.
 
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Gareth

| Looking on the net I see that some people advocate the use of
| chain oil, as in chainsaws, mixed with a bit of phosphoric
| acid. Sprayed on. Great care needed here, I would not want to
| breath in atomised acid fumes !
It's OK to drink though. See
http://www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/page.html
Christopher Bell
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Christoher wrote -
It's OK to drink though. See
http://www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/page.html
Indeed although it may rot your teeth. Other than the appalling taste of Coca Cola etc etc, it is what it does to any metallic object left overnight in it that puts me right of it !
The strength of phosphoric acid needed to neutalise rusty metal would rot my insides - however regular applications of gin may counter the effects !
Gareth.
 
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Hi all,
I was referring to POR-15. It's just one of the possibilities - there
are so many rust protection paints in th market.
I've heard mixed opeinions about the wisdom of spending several
hundred quid on the "before-n-after " treatment.
Obviously the cheaperst way is spraying the chassis with used engine
oil diluted with diesel fuel. The downside is that this is rather
messy and needs to be repeated every few months. This obviously
doesn't apply to landrovers. :)
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On 3/21/06, Gareth Jones <[Email address removed]> wrote:
Coca Cola etc etc, it is what it does to any metallic object left overnight in it that puts me right of it !
my insides - however regular applications of gin may counter the effects !
 
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Hey Roman
Thanks I found it eventually, its in www.frost.co.uk/productslist. You are
right very pricy at ?22 for less than one litre.
How many litres would it take to cover the underside of the cruiser.
They also do a metal ready product which it says kills the rust before you
paint. I know a lot of you have used the waxoil, is it any good , does it
last, is it dry to the toutch or does it stay wet.
I am looking at trying to get something to protect under the cruiser and
over the summer to apply over a few days.
But there the problem lies as you said Roman, there are so many products and
they all say they are the best. So which is the better choice and longer
lasting.
cheers
john 92HDJ 80 1HDT Rep of Ireland
 
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John, brush painting the chassis is one thing. Painting the underside of the body is quite another.
IMHO - the only way to do the job, irrespective of what you apply the underside of the vehicle with, will involve the use of a pressure washer, a spray gun and hence an air compressor. Unless you are a dwarf / contortionist / masochist or all three, a pit or four poster ramp is essential.
Forget brush on applications.
Gareth.
 
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POR 15 is rumoured to be the stuff to use. I have a friend that has a
Land Rover and the underside is immaculate, he uses vinegar to wash it
off. Wash it, let it dry for a few days and spray it. I have also
heard that using soapy water negates the action of the road salt
produced acid.
Regards, Clive.
 
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