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Have they worn well Ollaz?

Over here there are really only 3 manufactures that I can think of making decent tyres. Mickey T, Cooper and BFG, and out of those 3 the Mickey T's definitely look the best. :think:
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Well Coopers actually own MT. Their MT tyre has a stiffer carcass and the Claw has a harder compound than their STT. Done 60,000kms now on this set and have about 6mm tread left. The roads we've travelled, especially through Bostwana and upper Mozambique, have been very punishing on the tyres; not one puncture through tyre failure ! .... but they are due a change as they have begun to show signs of fatigue now.

I guess taken easier and on a lighter truck, they would get the same mileage as the BFG, circa 90,000kms.
 
I bought my Cooper Discoverer STT used but with no discernible wear . 2000 odd miles on tarmac and its time to swap the front with the rear tyres as i can see the difference though its only minor . The new spare can go on the driver side front and i expect with sensible rotation these tyres will last a very long time .

And Ben a cheaper option to replacing suspension might be to just add coil spacers obviously over a time your springs will compress and become shorter it doesn't mean thier not functional it just means the body sags so just use a spacer to bring them back to thier original compressed length . I was astonished how spacers improved the ride on my truck albeit with very old standard suspension under them .
 
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I think mickey Ts and coopers come out of the same factory. Used to love my cooper STs, but side walls are weak compared to my KM2s!
Now I wouldn't buy any other tyre. As quiet on road, but excellent off road IMO!
Have a great weekend Ben, speak soon..

Cheers.
 
Thanks guys. :thumbup:

Shane, my springs and shocks are all pretty knackered. :thumbdown:

So I want to replace it all for new really, but.....................

Spring spacers for the rear could be an option for the short term until I've got enough cash to change the whole lot.

Very interesting that they improved the ride for you, as obviously all they do is space the spring further away from the chassis. :think:

If you really like mud that much you definitely need to get to wombat state forest. It's the muddiest place I've ever driven. Lincomb actually looks dry in comparison when it's at it's finest.

Thanks Grant its definitely on my to do list! :dance:

Had I not had mechanical issues on the Licola trip then I would have gone on the following weekends trip to Wombat. :doh:

In the 2 books I've picked up with short trips in they've both got routes for Wombat State Forest. :icon-cool:

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Hoping to get over there soon. :dance:

So excited about todays 4wd trip to Gembrook!! :icon-biggrin:

Been awake since 4.30am. :sleeping-sleep:

Got my Lincomb shirt on, just need to make some lunch, pack the truck and give it a quick check over.

Full trip report to follow. :thumbup:
 
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"Very interesting that they improved the ride for you, as obviously all they do is space the spring further away from the chassis. "

I agree it doesn't make sense but even the Mrs and kids could tell the difference (and i'm sure they wouldn't notice if i cut the roof off!) , i've wondered if the spacer just acts as a damper between the spring and chassis or maybe it somehow mysteriously altered the spring rate , i don't know , but whatever it did was the kind of accident we all enjoy the ride is firm but gentle no body roll and no bone shakers .
 
Well that was an awesome day 4wding! :dance:

Trip report will have to wait a little while longer because I'm going out tomorrow now aswell! :violin:

Going back to Telangi, this time with the suzuki club. :icon-cool:

Nah! don't believe that, you never post anything. :laughing-rolling:

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"Very interesting that they improved the ride for you, as obviously all they do is space the spring further away from the chassis. "

I agree it doesn't make sense but even the Mrs and kids could tell the difference (and i'm sure they wouldn't notice if i cut the roof off!) , i've wondered if the spacer just acts as a damper between the spring and chassis or maybe it somehow mysteriously altered the spring rate , i don't know , but whatever it did was the kind of accident we all enjoy the ride is firm but gentle no body roll and no bone shakers .

Sounds good. :thumbup:
 
Sounds promising that you're out again tomorrow...

Have a good one, and looking forward to the pictures and report!
 
I run Hankook Dynapro MT and they seem fine offroad infact they out perform a local KZJ with 35" BFG's!
Hankook's Dynapro MT may not be the sexiest-looking tire of the group, but it did everything we asked of it, and in virtually all cases returned above-average scores. It was the best mud performer of the bunch and offered the highest weight-carrying capacity of those tested. Combine that with the tread's polite street manners, and it's easy to see why it's the champion of Four Wheeler's 2011 mud-terrain shootout.

Read more: http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarti...first_place_hankook_dynapro_mt/#ixzz2Tf0GeueN
 
Ben, take a look at the mudmaps app for the iPad. Looks to be the most comprehensive and up to date Offroad navigation and mapping system available for Oz.
 
Just about to start uploading pics and writing Saturdays trip report. :icon-cool:

Ben, take a look at the mudmaps app for the iPad. Looks to be the most comprehensive and up to date Offroad navigation and mapping system available for Oz.

Thanks Lorin. :thumbup:

Got some huge trips planned for over the next few years. :dance:
 
Bright and early Saturday morning I set off to meet the others in Gembrook.

It was still raining, just like the previous 7 days.

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I met the others and after waiting for 10 minutes to see if any of the others were going to show up we left Gembrook and drove the short distance into Bunyip State Forest.

We stopped to air down.

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Loving Mikes 80! But more on that later.

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We were soon off again.

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The truck in front driven by Yarn (the guy who lent me the 31" tyres) was having some trouble getting up the first slippery climb.

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His front wheels wernt getting any drive, so he decided he would have to call it a day and head home.

So he pulled over and we carried on.

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The first climb was ridiculously slippery, and the Jeep in front of me just about managed to get up with plenty of sideways action.

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It was so wet and greasy that it was a struggle to even stand up and walk on it.

The little Sierra (SJ) was struggling a bit on its tiny little all terrains and required a snatch recovery as they had slipped off the track.

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LJ managed to get up fine with the 37"s and rear air locker.

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When the Disco snatched the Sierra back the little zuke started going sideways and if theyd kept going would have tipped over as there was a big hole. Luckily they stopped in time, and we re-positioned the snatch strap on the front of the sierra and pulled it up.

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After stopping to regroup and check everyone was OK we carried on.

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Soon we came to a very big, slippery hill climb with 2 Nissan Patrols struggling to get up.

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It was quite good to watch, they were flat out on the throttle with all the tyres spinning and very slowly they were moving forward inching there way up.

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We stood for an hour watching and chatting while the 2 Patrols fought there way up and ended up winching the last section.

So our group...............................

The trip leader Justin, was driving this red Ford Maverick (Patrol).

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My mate Tony in his tricked up Jeep.

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Mike in the lovely 80.

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My mate Craig in his Disco.

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My friends Natalie and Gav who are normally in there big white 105 LandCruiser (they helped tow me on the Licola trip)in the little Suzuki which is Nat's truck.

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After seeing how slippery the conditions were I decided to take another 10psi out of the tyres and drop them down to 10.

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With the other 2 Patrol's safely up the hill it was the turn of out trip leader.

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He wheel spun all the way but did get moving.

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Managed to avoid sliding into the tree.

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He got so far up but then had to winch the rest.

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It was raining off and on and I was glad I brought my brolly, as were a few of the others who huddled underneath it.

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The Jeeps turn next.

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He too was soon winching.

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Mikes 80 next.

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Slipping sideways.

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He then ended up in one of the rain run off ditches that you find bulldozed off the sides of all the tracks over here.

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He gave it his best shot to get out.

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The Jeep was still fighting his way up the hill.

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With the pyro gauge reading very high exhaust gas temps from loads of right foot trying to get up, Mike ran his winch rope out and winched himself out.

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Shit those high mount Warn winches are quick! Got to get me one of those!

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Mike managed to drive his 80 a fair way up he hill, and I then got LJ to the bottom of the climb.

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I walked up to see how Tony was getting on in his Jeep.

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Clearly enjoying himself.

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After Mike got up it was my turn in LJ.

I should have given it more right foot from the bottom like the other guys, but I thought Id just crawl up in 1st low.

That approach worked well for a while but then I lost momentum and just sat there spinning the wheels. I went backwards and forwards a few times trying to get up but the front end slid round and I was now positioned sideways on on the slippery steep climb.

It felt bloody unsafe so I radioed for help and some of the guys came back down.

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They put a strap on the front of the truck and anchored me to a tree to stop my front end from sliding further and hopefully me from rolling.

(Apologies for the rubbish pics, the camera got condensation in between the lenses.)

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With my front end anchored in place I was able to carefully back up and get myself a bit squarer on to the hill.

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The only problem now was that my rear wheel was up on the bank making LJ feel very tippy. I tried reversing and that lifted wheels off the ground. I tried going forward and again wheels came off the ground. It felt very tippy and unsafe.

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Tony and Gav tried pulling the rear of LJ back onto the track while I tried spinning the rear wheels.

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That didnt work and still it felt tippy. So they anchored my bullbar to the tree. So my front end was now anchored low down off my recovery point to the base of one tree, and the bullbar was anchored higher up to another tree.

I learnt an interesting technique where by you can hold a vehicle quite safely by just wrapping a strap around a tree a few times and then holding on to the strap to make sure it stays taught. A bit like how a winch rope stays on the winch drum due to it having a few wraps of rope/cable which causes friction.

Worked really well and is a super quick way to anchor an unsafe vehicle.

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This time, after unlocking a front hub so I was in rear wheel drive I was able to spin myself off the bank.

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Next it was my turn to get winched a little way up the track, just up and over the next water run off hump that I was struggling to get over before.

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Justins truck in position ready to winch us up.

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After being winched for a few meters I was then able to drive the rest.

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The Suzuki then amazed us all by driving all the way to the top!!! Stock standard and running tiny little 28" all terrain tyres!

Who says you need lockers and 37"s! :lol:

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Craigs turn next in the Disco.

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Not easy but with his twin locked truck and new 36" Simex tyres he got himself to the top.

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Thick red clay!

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I didnt get many pics of the Disco or Suzuki getting up as I was trying to video them but the video didnt work on the camera again. :-(

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Justins truck then needed winching back up as he was just spinning all his wheels and going no where.

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It was a struggle to drive with huge clods of sticky clay stuck to my boots.

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And finally we were at the top and off the track. 4 hours it took us to get everyone up!

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The others were still having problems getting up the last tiny bit of the track.

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A few pics of Mikes beautiful 80.

LED strips work very well and light everything up well.

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I also liked his fridge slide/30 second kitchen.

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We had a quick stop for a chat and a drink then hit the tracks again.

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The next section of track proved a lot of fun! Apparently a lot of the track used to be like this small rocky section but its all been graded and filled in.

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After driving up the rocks and then deciding we loved it so much we drove it again! We carried on.

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The Disco was having engine problems.

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It turned out the LandRover patented anti rust system, where by it constantly drips and leaks oil all over the underneath of the truck, had used all the engine oil up.

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5 litres of oil later we were on our way.

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I like these big storage boxes Mike has got for his 80, they work well.

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The little Suzuki had a few problems on this next section of track due to not having enough ground clearance.

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A quick snatch recovery and we were on our way again.

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The convoy stopped and we all got out. Ahead was a huge bog hole.

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Non of us wanted to get stuck in it, so we stood there for 10 mins trying to decide who should drive in and try and cross it.

I'm not a fan of bog holes, especially after the one at Lincomb destroyed so many parts of LJ last time.

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In the end the trip leader decided to have a go.

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Try as he might he could get over some raised roots between the trees.

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After he reversed back out another group turned up, and one of them said hed try.

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He was unsuccessful too.

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He tried going the other side of the trees but got totally stuck.

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So Mike hooked his winch on and dragged the Patrol out.

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By this point it was getting late and would be dark soon so we decided to call it a day.

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On the way back down the hill in the dark, one of my tyres popped off the rim.

We attached Mikes winch to the back of LJ, I then jacked here up to take the weight off the tyre. We removed the valve core and using Mikes compressor, and with 3 of us pushing and kicking the tyre we managed to pop the bead back on.

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I tried to scrape as much of the mud and grit out from between the tyre bead and the rim but air was still leaking out quite quickly as I couldnt get all the crap out.

We inflated it to 50psi and carried on.

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Coming back down some of the tracks in the dark was interesting.

Mike slid and hit his drivers wheel hard, and bent his steering rod.

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We stopped to air up and I was impressed that my tyre had stopped leaking and was still holding 50psi.

I let some air out and then used Mikes compressor to air up the rest of them.

Hes mounted it under his drivers seat and it fits nicely. Hes also got an air tank mounted underneath.

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Was an awesome day! :dance:

Really need to get my front locker re-fitted and get a winch! :icon-twisted:

Trip report for Sundays trip to Telangi with the Suzuki club to follow. :icon-wink:
 
Awesome,

Great to see you having so much fun.

Gra.
 
YYY
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