You talk a lot of sense there Rob, but I don't agree with some of it though, for instance refugees and migrants are a problem, they are using up facilities and finance that could be used for needy people in this country, I am a great believer in charity begins at home.
Plus many people in this country are afraid of the terrorists that may be among those refugees coming into this country.
But surely Chas, that's not the fault of the migrants, isn't that the fault of the authorities dealing with them?
Charity may well begin at home, but during the years preceding the current "crisis" joe public has bitterly attacked the UK government for its social security policies through the ages with hand-outs to the "great unwashed" single parent families and the whole spectrum of personal circumstances that have qualified state benefit of one form or another. In my youth the biggest culprits were those on the dole, whatever coulour or racial, religious background or origin they were. If they were imigrants then they simply had two labels against them or three if they were the wrong colour, and so on.
What can be concluded from this? Well it seems to me that the UK (and not only) always look to deride one social "group" and blame them for all the problems of the nation. If it's not blacks, it's the Irish, if not them then its immigrants, firstly from the Polish and Hungarian refugees from WWII, followed by the Eastern bloc (after the iron curtain rusted away) and now from the middle east.
In Hitler's day it was the Jews, blacks and the gypsies, all persecuted in a similar initial "social outcast" manner which soon developed into an outright hatred punctuated with a less than human approach in order to justify rat-like mass extermination. IMO, It's a brainwash process whereby if governments or others can get the general populous to rise up against "undesirables", we do the job for them. Historically this was done by religious persecution, but in more modern times, you can take your pick.
Against much criticism (and I don't really care who puts me down for this) my main principled outlook is that historically, Britain (since the days of the empire and colonialism) has striven for freedom, the freedom to come and go as you please and the freedom to stay if you choose.
As a British passport holder, I'm privileged that I can travel almost anywhere I want to go in the world (without visa or with an easily obtainable visa), and in 90% of those places I would be able to legally earn a living and stay almost indefinitely. Compare that with older closed regimes, such as Romania or other eastern bloc countries, where their people simply could not cross the borders of neighboring countries let alone travel around the globe, and not prevented by the neighbors, but not permitted by their own governing regime.
IMO, people should be free to migrate to wherever suits them best, and its down to the governments of the host countries to maintain their law and order.
Would this thread have come about had the "immigrants" have been behaving themselves? No, possibly not. If they had been courteous, queuing politely, contributing to society, integrating, I don't see that anyone would have raised any complaints. I agree that the conduct shown on these vids and the behavior I have witnessed personally, is totally unacceptable, but I lay the blame at the feet of the authorities in the host countries for not upholding law and order.
Could go on and on
I thought you drove a Landcruiser !
