Overlanding Spares Kit - what would you take?

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Morning All,
Apart from taking along enough standard service items for a long
overlanding trip to North Africa, what other spares would you
recommend?
Since I would be prepared to do any work myself, I would probably be
inclined to take more rather than less, however what about people that
will be able to do their own basic servicing, but not much more - is it
worth them taking enough kit for others to do the work or should they
rely on the bush mechanics to source the parts for them?
Service Items - enough to service vehicle say every 6,000 miles:
Air filter
Oil Filter
Fuel Filter
Engine Oil
Gearbox Oil
Diff Oil
Brake fluid
Windscreen Washer fluid
I would be inclined to take a couple of extra fuel filters just in case
you come across mucky fuel.
Also:
Full set of brake pads
Spare bulbs (at least one of everything, doubling up on main driving
lights)
Spare belts for alternator and aircon.
Timing belt?
What about:
Spare wheel bearings and seal kit
Birfield grease
Wheel bearing grease
I would be interested to know your views.
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Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hello guys,
Been away for a while, towing 3.5t trailers across Europe, but that's
another story...
As for spare parts for overlanding, it all depends for how long one
plans to be away. E.g. on a 10k miles trip lasting a month you
certainly won't need a timing belt, and in case you do, you'll need a
lot more than that.
These pages will give you a clue which parts need special attention in
relation to driving conditions and planned distances:
http://tinyurl.com/ahxur and http://tinyurl.com/7d9a3
Water will do the trick and tastes better!
It's best to put two in line and then have a few spare elements. I use
a simple Crosland 522 prefilter and a Racor Type 500FGSS
filter/sedimenter with 2010 element (flow rate 60 galons/hour)
For parts such as wheel bearings, it's best to replace them before the
trip. Also, it's good practice to replace all shock absorbers.
All parts replaced in the course of preventive maintanance can be
carried as emergency spares.
Other spares not mentioned above:
- water pump
- starter motor (for auto gearbox vehicles)
- second spare wheel (or at least a tyre).
I'm not sure about carrying inner tubes to repair tubeless tyres - if
a tyre is damaged beyond usual repair, it will mess up the inner tube
anyway.
Also, it's useful to have all tyres sized for general availability out
there. The world's most popular 4x4 tyre size is 235x85x16 or
7.50x16.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
On 8/17/05, Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]> wrote:
 
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Hi Roman,
Oh, do tell!
I hadn't come across the second one, very handy.
I guess you don't have to deal the grimy/oily muck that flies off the UK
roads.
I would certainly go for the Racor in line with the factory one.
Have you dumped the factory one?
Agreed. I guess they are pretty unbreakable and only tend to wear out so
if you start off with new ones before leaving you should be OK.
Agreed.
I hadn't considered those to take as spares, but would have put on the
list of things to check/replace before leaving.
Agreed
That was my thinking along with tyre irons. I always thought that if the
tyre was beyond repair using one of the plug kits, using tyre irons to
fit a tube would have been pointless.
Although in hindsight it might be handy to have a set of tyre irons
incase the tyre comes off the rim when driving with really low pressure.
Are the standard 80 series tyre sizes (265-285) not available or just
difficult to come by. I guess they will be more expensive either way.
Also, as an aside, how does the 80 handle on this size compared to a more
standard side
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Roman,
Oh, do tell!
I hadn't come across the second one, very handy.
I guess you don't have to deal the grimy/oily muck that flies off the UK
roads.
I would certainly go for the Racor in line with the factory one.
Have you dumped the factory one?
Agreed. I guess they are pretty unbreakable and only tend to wear out so
if you start off with new ones before leaving you should be OK.
Agreed.
I hadn't considered those to take as spares, but would have put on the
list of things to check/replace before leaving.
Agreed
That was my thinking along with tyre irons. I always thought that if the
tyre was beyond repair using one of the plug kits, using tyre irons to
fit a tube would have been pointless.
Although in hindsight it might be handy to have a set of tyre irons
incase the tyre comes off the rim when driving with really low pressure.
Are the standard 80 series tyre sizes (265-285) not available or just
difficult to come by. I guess they will be more expensive either way.
Also, as an aside, how does the 80 handle on this size compared to a more
standard side
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Guys
With all the stuff you will need (just in case) where do you sit in the
cruiser. I know ill never do that because I would need a ten ton truck to
acompany me on my travels (just in case) after all it would be my luck.
What about renewing your batteries before you go,
taking all the bits that go in the starter motor,
lots of Milners fuel additive,
getting your injector pump serviced before you go,
get an engine oil test done before you go,
replace all the coolent,
get radiator serviced or replaced,
water hoses,
spare relays,
John C
92HDJ 80 1HDT Ireland
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From: "Andy Bell" <[Email address removed]>
To: <[Email address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ELCO] Overlanding Spares Kit - what would you take?
 
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Hi Andy,
Sounds like good stuff, although I haven't heard of turbo failures so
wouldn't have considered that.
On the tools side, when you start working on an 80 you soon realise
that there are only few different size nuts and bolts so you don't
really need to take all the sockets and spanners in a set.
However would you take the full sets in case you need to help out a
fellow traveller (assuming that you are mechanically able to)?
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Andy,
Sounds like good stuff, although I haven't heard of turbo failures so
wouldn't have considered that.
On the tools side, when you start working on an 80 you soon realise
that there are only few different size nuts and bolts so you don't
really need to take all the sockets and spanners in a set.
However would you take the full sets in case you need to help out a
fellow traveller (assuming that you are mechanically able to)?
--
Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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On 8/17/05, Julian Voelcker <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I went on a 1.5k miles trip with 6m long trailer fully loaded by
someone else. It was supposed to be balanced propertly but after a few
miles I discovered that it was not to be - too light on the hook.
Believe me, it's no fun to have 3.5t of load fishtailing behind you! I
had to drive at 45mph and so missed my ferry. The load was too big for
me to move by hand so I had a choice either to hire a forklift truck
to reaarrange the load or carry on at 45mph.
On the way back, with the trailer loaded correctly I could drive
safely up to 60mph, which shortened the driving time by one day.
That's right. The prefilter is on the chassis in front of the fuel
tank and the Racor is fitted on a bracket in the space provided for
the OEM filter.


The water pump bit comes from someone who traverses the Sahara several
times a year. The starter motor seems to be a vital part as you can't
start an A/T without it. It's easier to replace it than trying to
repair a damaged one.

It's always a matter of availability, which is an inconvenience that
becomes a problem only if you can't do without it.
7.50x16 are like 31in tyres, only narrower. As for handling, I have no
idea if it's better or worse - I don't race around corners, don't care
about braking distance, slow down for puddles.. I've done 40k on these
tyres and survived which is a proof they are just as safe as anything
else.
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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Hi Dennis,
Out of interest what shocks did you have on there and also how old were
they?
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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Hi Dennis,
Out of interest what shocks did you have on there and also how old were
they?
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Regards,
Julian Voelcker
Mobile: 07971 540362
Cirencester, United Kingdom
1994 HDJ80, 2.5" OME Lift
 
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On 8/17/05, Dennis Lamminga <[Email address removed]> wrote:
I am wondering if any one has an opinion about the Oram shocks sold by
Scorpion Racing and Equipe4x4? They appear to have the Paris Dakar
reputation and so far have performed very well.
After 1& 1/2 years of use they haven't leaked at all, nitro pressure
has dropped very slightly in one shock only and generaaly I am pleased
with them. The one misgiving I have is that the rear shocks might be a
bit longer. Do you know any one else who has used them?
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Rgds,
Roman (London, UK)
'92 HDJ80
 
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hi
sorry it's late...
my usual packing list (not complete) is attached and it includes my spares
list. before a trip i always try and do an oil service myself and if it's a
long trip, a full service at a trusted garage. any parts i swop out for new
i keep as spares unless they are really buggered!
i had made a storage system in the uk but had to leave it behind in the end.
i'll try and get it made again but in upgraded materials, but until i do i
use some stacking plastic boxes i found in sa's pick'n'pay (their equiv of
tesco's). it's quite amazing how much you can get in if you do it in an
orderly fashion.
before we drove the 5000km up from zim we had a "c" service done, ie: apart
from all the usual physical and electrical checks: all oils drained and
replaced (engine, gear box, transfer box, r & f diffs etc); fluids drained
and replaced (brake, clutch, coolant, pas etc); new filters fitted; and all
the gp's re-greased. i also had new fan belts and brake shoes fitted as
well. it's best to take as many service items with you as you can as good
quality ones are hard to find, especially fan belts, filters and bulbs.
i want new shocks so i'm weighing up the pro & cons of buying new ome's or
the one's a local rally driver, rob's magic, produces, so if anyone has
found a good source for ome (ie: cheaper than frog's island), please let me
know.
rgds
ps: omen98 front, omen72f rear, =a365.00 each plus the vat.
jeremy --
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'94 kzn130 3.0td
ome hd suspension
rob's magic polybushes
safari snorkel
arb bullbar
5 core radiator
twin batteries / split charge
16" steel lc splitrims
750/16 michelin xzls
surf rear wheel carrier
custom roofrack, light protectors & skid plate.
 
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Hi Julian,
I've been pondering the same question recently. Based on breakdowns/mishaps
I've seen on the piste, I'd plan on taking:
1 - the service parts and belts that you mention (though a spare t-belt is
maybe moot unless you plan to drive past its service interval?)
2 - front wheel bearings and seals
3 - radiator hoses (they do go - i've seen a few examples in the desert)
4 - a thermostat - these are cheap and do fail too
5 - an oil filler cap (if you leave your one on top of the engine and drive
off - as it is easy to do in the bush if you are tired, you have a disaster
on your hands)
6 - a spare sump plug washer - they don't last forever
7 - one each front and rear dampers - these get such a hard time in N
Africa, nes pas?
8 - some wheel nuts - they get nicked/lost in the sand
9 - a selection of fasteners - plus some penny washers for bodging
10 - some wire/scotchloks/a gas soldering iron/crimps - I keep all these in
a bag in the compartment in the boot
11 - cable ties and (better still) mechanoser ties (the reusable cable ties)
12 - air filter oil (you are taking a foam air filter no?)
13 - a couple of schrader valves if you are staying tubeless (I've got those
tyrepliers too - they are good)
For a very long trip, I know of people who also take:
A spare starter and alternator
A spare turbo (seriously)
I think these are a bridge too far though.
cheers for now,
Andy
 
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